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Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 963 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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Can this mic be wired to a 4 pin radio? If so does Copper do it? thanks |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9365 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:07 am: |
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Hotwire, YES and YES. Just CLICK on the OPTIONS box if you you place your order over the internet in the LINK above or tell them if you call to place your order that you want the Options. OPTIONS Have Mic Wired/Please specify which radio in comments: add 10.00 Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF |
Moonraker
Intermediate Member Username: Moonraker
Post Number: 165 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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The mode switch on the mic has SSB, FM and Batt check. Was this mic designed mainly for SSB & FM? How is it's performance on AM? |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1109 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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That's a tone switch. SSB is high cut, and FM is full audio. There are some other microphones out there that also have this odd terminology, which gives me an idea about the manufacturer. |
Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 970 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 1:02 pm: |
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Thank you Lon. 73 and God Bless Kenny CEF491 Hotwire |
Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 971 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 1:24 pm: |
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If I understand corectly this mic also has 2 mic cords. I can have one cord wired for my Connex and just leave the other an 8 pin. I'm going to get an Omegaforce soon so maybe I should get the extra cord wired for it. Knowing that the mic to the Omegaforce has a channel selector on it can somebody tell me the type mic plug it has? I doubt its a standard 4 pin. This new mic is perfect for the Omega because of its channel up and down feature. thanks |
Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 330 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 2:00 pm: |
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yes they have arrived |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9367 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 4:22 pm: |
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The Microphones will have 2 ~ Chassis Mount (male), TYPE "CMC" OUTPUT Connectors mounted on the Microphone that you will need to use a Jumper / Jumpers to connect from the Microphone to your Radio / Radios. The Jumper / Jumpers will have a 8 Pin Standard Microphone Plug (female), TYPE "CBC" on the Microphone End of the Jumper and the Other End will have a Microphone Plug (female),TYPE "CBC" end wired for the Radio that you Specify when you place your order. This means they DO NOT come Pre Wired for ANY Specific Brand / Model or Pin Configuration of Radio as they will have 2 ~ 8 Pin Standard Microphone Plug (female), TYPE "CBC" Microphone Connectors on the Microphone. You will need to Specify What Brand / Model of Radio and Pin Configuration that you need when you place your order by Checking the Options Box so you will Receive a Jumper that will be wired from the Microphone to your Brand / Model ~ Pin Configuration of radio that you are going to use. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1111 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 5:03 pm: |
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Do any unwired cables come with the radio for those of us who prefer to do their own wiring? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9369 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 5:06 pm: |
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Hollowpoint, Yes 1 Jumper will be included with the Microphone when you place your order. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF |
Sonny
Member Username: Sonny
Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 9:06 pm: |
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Can copper wire it for a Alinco dx70 |
Airplane1
Advanced Member Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 704 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:00 am: |
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will this work on AM also? it says SSB,FM, batt check. AP |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9375 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:18 am: |
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Sonny, If your radio takes a standard 4/5/6 pin microphone plug and you have the wiring pinout/connection information for the radio the Copper Tech can wire it for what you need. You can call Copper 1-800-626-6343 and ask for the Copper Tech and he will be able to answer your question. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9376 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:22 am: |
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Airplane1, Yes, it works very well on AM and I have been using it for the last 10 or 12 weeks daily and on the Sunday AM/LSB CEF Nets with GREAT Reports from other CEF Radio Club Members. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Airplane1
Advanced Member Username: Airplane1
Post Number: 706 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:26 am: |
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If I get one jumper free with mic, is that for whatever radio I want and then if I want more jumpers I need to pay for them after that? Is this correct? AP |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9378 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 5:26 pm: |
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Airplane1, Yes, the Microphone comes with 1 Jumper that you will need to wire/install a radio connector plug on or have the Copper Tech wire install a radio connector on it for whatever radio you want to use it on. There are so many different Models and Pin Connections for the different radios that the jumpers do not come pre-wired for any specific radio. If you have set of the Microphone Adapter's and have your jumper/jumpers wired for the standard Cobra/Uniden 4 pin configuration then you could use them on about any radio without having to use extra jumpers. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 978 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 8:43 am: |
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Helpful note to Copper members, On Monday I ordered a couple of the new mics for my dad and I. The lady on the phone was not sure they had them or was on back order. She found out that the problem was they had not entered them into the computer yet. So when you order be sure to have the item number to give to the sales person. I'm a repeat customer at Copper and I go no where else for ANYTHING if Copper carrys it. The people there are so nice its an enjoyment to spend all my cash at Copper. Friendly employees at Copper is what counts! I know of no other place with such top of the line service and knowledge of what I'm buying! Thanks Copper and thanks Lon for all the great info on the mic. Kenny CEF491 Hotwire Readin da mail from da cornfields in da middle of da Hoosier state! big 73 to all SEE YA!!! |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9382 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 9:20 am: |
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For those of you who wish to place a Phone Order the Stock/Part # is: J00-02000 JCD-201M Base Microphone Hope this helps, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF808 CVC#2 |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 225 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 1:14 pm: |
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Tech808 Maybe I dont understand but this mic can be wired by Coppers with a 8-pin male plug for a Yaesu radio?I tried to order this but was told that Coppers did not carry the the 8-pin,so I did'nt order the mic!Please help me!! Gage CEF-114 |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9399 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 5:12 pm: |
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Sonny, At this time the Copper Tech does not have the wiring codes and connectors for all of the different ham radios. But if you have a connector for your radio and the microphone wiring code from your radio owners manual you can use the wiring code from the D-201M Owners Manual to wire a jumper for your radio. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Hyperno_1979
Junior Member Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:14 am: |
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Lonnie, Sorry i forgot to ask you on voice chat but at the risk of repeating another post, can this mic be wired to suit a Magnum 357DX and as it has 2 outputs can it have a jumper to suit a Super Bengal MK3 as well? I don't come across much info on the 357, is it the same configuration as the 257? Any info greatly appreciated. Cheers & Beers, CEF#703, Bob. |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 226 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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Well I ordered the JCD-201M Base Mic and had it wired for the Cobra 2000GTL.I did have a jumper to fit it on the Yeasu radio can't wait to get it! Gage CEF-114 |
Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 995 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:04 pm: |
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WOW!!! I just hooked up my new compression mic to my 4800. I am getting totally amazing performance and the cleanest audio EVER! AM and SSB reports are like you can not sound any better! Piles of flowers! Still playing with it to find the sweet spot so I really hope I can get some DX soon. I know DX reports are gonna rock! The mic is constructed REAL strong made of metal and no cheap feel to this thing at all. The SSB performance is to me the biggest reason I like this mic. The guys at 50 miles away was impressed! These guys run Kenwoods and such. For the price of 130 bucks for this mic I say is cheap! I bet shops will have them for at least 250! Anyone debating on a purchase stop and buy one TODAY! Trust me guys I'm tickled pink and you will be too! |
Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 335 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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finally sounds like thiers a good desk mike out that works very well i like the old tuners |
Hotwire
Advanced Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 999 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 11:56 am: |
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Lon, I been playing around trying different things. I use the manual compression setting because with my radio I can get somewhere between the high and low auto settings. Still learning about this mic. I have a question since you have used one for some time. I do not talk very loud. I'm looking at the VU meter as I talk and it seems that 2 inches away is about right for my voice. Trying to keep the VU meter from pegging. What is the best distance that worked for you? Also when I am in manual mode what should I do first? Adjust compression and then the mic gain on the radio? Or set the mic gain on the radio permanatly and just use the mic adjustment as needed? Trying not to sound confusing because I AM scratching my head here! |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 861 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 7:55 pm: |
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Hotwire, keep the reports coming. Tell us what radio you are using with the mic. Does it give 100% modulation even on the soft sounds? I'm just wondering. Any negatives? mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9413 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:31 pm: |
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Mikefromms, From my post's in: Ask The Tech » Microphone Questions » JCD-201M DESK TOP COMPRESSION MICROPHONE Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2005 - 8:20 am: So far it has been Tested on the following Radios with great results and modulation of 100%. MOBILE RADIOS: Magnum S-45 (Omega Force) S-3 S-6 S-9 Mini Mag 257 Voyage VR9000 Uniden PC-78 Ranger 2970DX President Lincoln Ranger 5054DX 100 (6 Meter) YAESU FT-2800M (2 Meter) BASE RADIOS: Ranger 2995DX Ranger 696F SSB Base Galaxy Saturn Turbo MAGNUM S-3200B Icom 746Pro HF/6M/2M Kenwood TS870S ******************************** Posted on Sunday, December 04, 2005 - 7:39 am: Well here are the Mics that I and a couple of others who helped tested it against for the last 6+ weeks. The JCD-201M was tested by BOTH Transmitting and Receiving from it from other radios. I also tested it in Mobile use as well as Base Use on the Mobile radios I listed. Actually I thought it looked Pretty COOOOOOL sitting on the dash of the 1st Sargants truck. The YAESU MD-200A8X was the ONLY Mic that received better Audio Reports, (BUT! at $400.00 bucks for it I would expect it too.) Other than the Yaesu we all received better audio / clarity reports on AM and SSB when using the JCD-201M including 6 weeks of use on the CEF Nets when I would switch without telling anyone. The mics it was tested against: Astatic D-104 Silver Eagle 1104C D-104 w/TUG8 Stand Turner +3 & Road King Sadelta Echomaster Silver Salute Super StarDM-452 ICOM SM-20 Kenwood MC-60A YAESU MD-200A8X Very nice mic but NO WAY I WILL SPEND 400 bucks for one. And we also tested it against the Factory / Stock Mics on all radios. And the Modulation was 100% on all radios we tested it on. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF808 CVC#2 |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1117 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 9:04 pm: |
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Although I don't own this particular microphone, I do own similar microphones so I can answer the question. With any powered microphone you would want to run the radio at full microphone gain and adjust the microphone ouput as necessary to fully modulate the radio. This will allow the batteries to last as long as possible. Unfortunately there is no AMC/ALC meter function on a CB to let you know when you're at the point where more microphone output won't increase the audio level (assuming your limiters function properly), so you'll have to listen to yourself on another radio or ask a friend to listen and determine that point. It's probably easiest to do that while using maximum compression because your average audio will then be the loudest, and gain changes will make the most difference. I wouldn't be concerned with the VU meter as it's simply a relative output meter and won't show peak audio levels, but they are nice to watch while speaking. |
Sonny
Member Username: Sonny
Post Number: 93 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 9:28 pm: |
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Ordered mine today having one lead wired for my VR9000 and I'll wire the other for my Alinco DX70 |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1008 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 11:11 pm: |
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Hollowpoint that makes sense. I'll try that and see what happens. Mikefromms I have nothing bad to say about this mic! It is the best mic I ever have owned or used. Puts a D104 to shame. The audio is so crisp and rich sounding its totally amazing and unbelievable. A sensitive mic but does not pick up from across the room. I am a soft speaker and purposly have been talking softly mostly SSB and no trouble at all hearing me on the other end. About 2 inches away no problems and armslenth just turn up the gain a bit. You could hear me drop a sewing pin in your reciever. Trust me, modulation now has a new meaning. This is the last mic for a base station radio I ever want to use. All I can tell you is BUY one and be the first in your town to sound bad _ss!!! I'm not over exaggerating. I am very impressed and just wait till the other guys get in here with there remarks about the mic.73 |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1009 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 9:32 am: |
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I am using the mic on my connex 4800. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 862 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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Thanks Lon and Hotwire. That is one sweet radio so I've heard--Connex 4800. I'm probably going to make my purchase this week. I will wire it for both sides of my Magnum Omega Force S-45 this way it will be able to change channels and fit just about any other radio! Tall order for this mic to beat out the stock mic and the Superstar DM-452. mikefromms |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1021 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 9:27 am: |
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Lon, Thanks for the e-mail. I called Suzanne and everything is good. I'm happy now! |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1023 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 5:06 pm: |
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Well I tried Hollowpoints suggestion with the radio mic gain all the way and backed down the desk mic control. Got on 19 and said " How bout a radio check?" Gosh I bet 10 different people came back all jumbled together. One guy said " You really think you need a radio check?" Another said " I never heard a radio so LOUD and clear!" So I turned the mic up some more and added a little more watts just to see if I could overmodulate! It was no use. Its a cbers dream! By this time I had everyone gettin radio checks and crankin up amps and popin and cracklin! The uproar I created on 19 was amazing. This is now my secret weapon. Nobody will ever be told what mic I have now! I will just let them sit and wonder where does Hotwire's magical tremendous beutiful and heavenly killer audio come from? Guys please consider a purchase! Sell blood, mow lawns, make the kids sell lemonade! Just get yours! Gotta go... I feel a chicken dance coming on. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1267 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 5:10 pm: |
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I will order one this summer after these winter bills are over. Heating with natural gas has been a killer here this winter season... |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1034 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:59 am: |
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I hear ya the bills man! Up north thats how its been for a while. I was lucky enough to find a few guys to buy some of my radios and amps for the money. I even installed the gear since they had no idea the proper way. Could have charged more but hey what's a friend for? Friendship and trust has no pricetag on it. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 863 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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Hotwire, I sold a couple of powermikes last week and a radio. I'm using part of this money to buy this new mic. I just placed the order. I hope people can tell a postive difference in this mic from the mighty Superstar DM-452 I've been using. That's going to be a tall task. I guess that compression works on all modes? Sounds like you were doing that deal on channel 19. Those guys know what a loud radio sounds like. Talk to you all later, Mikefromms |
Troublemaker
Intermediate Member Username: Troublemaker
Post Number: 285 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 4:56 pm: |
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Got mine today!! |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1040 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 9:43 am: |
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Mikefromms and Troublemaker The mic has 2 mode settings Mike. FM and SSB. SSB seems to be more sensitive. I tried the SSB setting on AM and reports was negative. Had a scratchy sound so FM setting is definatley what you want for the AM mode. Did not even bother trying the FM setting on SSB. SO the FM and SSB switch is very necessary. Also I noticed if I have the mic to close to the radio and amp I get feedback so at least a foot away is needed for my setup. Using talkback is impossible unless you turn the gain WAY down or feedback occurs. At first I was sceptical on the sensitivity as far as using it at an armlength away. Aparently nobody has had trouble hearing me or told me to check my audio. Guys you will be happy with the mic. I doubt anyone will ever even have to turn the level on the mic up to 100 percent. All I can say is this is one great mic and as time goes by the whole radio world is gonna see this. 73 and have fun! |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 864 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |
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Thanks Hotwire. Ok Troublemaker, your turn. Give us the reports you are receiving on your new mic. Copper is still working on my order. They wrote and said they Tech couldn't wire the mic to change channels on my Magnum Omega Force S-45. I was under the impression from some source the mic could do that. I wrote back, no problem, proceed with the order. I should have mine about next Tuesday. Everyone who gets one should post and let us know the reports. Mikefromms |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 866 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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I see this got moved from the open forum. What happened concerning this mic? It was like a most popular item when the concept was introduced and being developed, now few people are talking about it. I ordered one and they tell me they can't wire it to change the channels on my Omega Force. I thought that was fairly simple for a Tech. I mean, if the wires are present and the mic has the up and down channel buttons what's the problem? I hope I don't end up cancilling another order. Mikefromms |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 227 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 2:24 pm: |
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Hi all! Well I got my JCD-201M last night,there's good news and bad news! Good news is the Mic has very good audio! Bad news is when I use the Mic on the 148GTL I get talk back my radio does not have talk back!Although with the talk back I can hear my audio which sounds good!My adaptor wont work with the mic to use it on my FT-847.So I will have to have the wiring on the checked and get another cable to run the mic on my Yaesu. A little disappointed yes but like I stated audio sounds very good! Gage |
Forummaster
Moderator Username: Forummaster
Post Number: 461 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 4:01 pm: |
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Mikefromms, I'm not sure why this topic was moved. I talked to our tech and he said he told you he hadn't figured out the wiring not that it couldn't be wired. He just wanted you to understand why it wasn't being shipped right away. He will want to be sure he has it right before he sends it out. ----------------------------------------------- Gage, I will let the tech know of your problem. If and when he has a solution I will post it here. |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 228 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 4:56 pm: |
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ForumMaster Thanks!! I did get a audio report on SSB today! Mic: On low sounded good On high ok but low was better! On manual with Compression set at 9/16 and mic gain at 1/2 perfect!The 148GTL sounded like a HF rig!!!! Don't give up on this mic if you have a few problems!The audio sound out ways a little inconvenience! Gage!! |
Vanillagorilla
Intermediate Member Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 493 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 5:06 pm: |
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Gage...my clipped Grant does the talkback thing as well with almost any power mic and FOR SURE with a Lollipop D-104. I'd think what your hearing is harmonics and/or RF leakage inside the radio. I'd bet if you turned down the gain on the mic a bit it would go away. Just for the record it is a very QUIET talkback correct? Barely audible?..and it seems to be comming from the radios STOCK speaker and not an external one right? Just my 2 beans ..saving the rest for this mic Hank |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 229 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 8:17 pm: |
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Vanillagorilla There has been no clipping or hacking of parts on any of my equipment! TAKE CARE All! Gage!!Sometime called Chocolate Thunder!! |
Vanillagorilla
Intermediate Member Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 496 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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Well I didn't mean to insult if not for a previous owner and a lazy current owner mine would not be clipped either! ..well ok maybe with a switch! Did you try turning down the modulation? Just 2 more beans here. Those early chassis 148's already had killer modulation so maybe SLIGHTLY overdoing it now? Hank |
Forummaster
Moderator Username: Forummaster
Post Number: 462 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Gage, Thanks for the feedback on the microphone. The more information we have the quicker we will solve any problems that arise. We tested the microphone on a lot of radios before hand but it is impossible to recreate every situation in advance that will arise in the field. So information from the end users is greatly appreciated. |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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Forummaster, I just hooked my JCD up to my 148 and I get the talkback too. The Cobra 148 mic wiring is the same as my Connex 4800. The mic works absolutly perfect on the Connex. The Connex has the talkback switch from factory and it works how its supposed to, on and off. I installed talkback in the Cobra 148 with an on\off switch. Even with the switch off I get talkback. I also get a lot of feedback unless the mic gain is turned almost to minimum but this is understandable because the radio's modulation is very strong and setup for a noise canceling straight mic. When the tech finds the solution for the talkback problem will you please share it with me? thanks |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 230 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 5:43 pm: |
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Vanillagorilla NO I did not feel you were insulting me.I was just stating that nothing has been clipped or cut. I hope that things get figured out on the JCD-201M because it is a great mic and I want to get the JCD-201M hooked up to mt FT-847! Take Care All!!!Gage CEF-114 |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 867 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:00 pm: |
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Misunderstandings, misunderstandings. Haste makes waste. Thanks for the information and clearing this up. I'd rather wait a day or two extra and have the mic wired to change channels since it can be done. mikefromms |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1290 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:54 pm: |
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i currently use a DM-3000 mic on my 148 in the mobile, and when i use the echo (not much) it will "talkback" through the external speaker a bit. like VG said, its quiet, but there. not sure if this helps the techs figure out the problem or not, but there it is. matt |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1055 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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The talkback being caused by the JCD is LOUD! I'm gonna try it on other radios I have and see what happens. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 868 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 12:13 pm: |
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Troublemaker, give us a report. My mic is in the mail being shipped at this time. At $156 with shipping, I sure hope this mic blows the smoke. I'll check it out good before I make any remarks. I'll set it with the talkback, maybe get a radio check on 19, and then use it when I talk the regulars around here and not mention the mic chance and see if they notice anything. Some of these guys notice everything. One things for sure, if you are not up to par they will notice that and if you are extra loud they usually let you know that too. Look forward to other reports on this mic and getting mine. Later, Mikefromms |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 869 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 6:04 pm: |
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Got my mic a couple of days ago. The regulars have not noticed a change at all. However, no one has made any negative remarks. So, the mic is working good. One major problem, as already pointed out above, the thing feeds back like crazy. In fact, I can't run it on the high compression setting. The channel changer on the mic will go down in channels but not up. It's so strange how you can hear yourself and feedback at time even when the mic is not keyed. Very strange. If other mikes of this nature do not do this, I think it's back to the drawing board for this one. Mikefromms |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1282 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 8:42 pm: |
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I'd like to hear more reviews from people on this mic and hear that the issues were resolved before i order one in the summer. Keep us posted people and ForumMaster... |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1139 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 9:48 pm: |
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You hear feedback even when not keyed? That's interesting. Does your radio have talkback? Or I guess I should ask does your radio NORMALLY have talkback? |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1075 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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Mikefromms, You get feedback while recieving??!! Now if I turn on the talkback (Connex 4800)I will get feed back at any setting past 100 % on the radio mic gain and 50 % setting on the mic. I can turn both gains to max with the talkback off no problems. I have noticed that if the mic is to close to the amp and radio with gain high I will get feedback so I have to have the mic at least a foot away. As far as going back to the drawing board I don't know what can be done to make this a better mic. Maybe its not compatable with some radios. 73 and good luck Some cbers at least in my area insist on having overmodulated audio or close to it. This mic is not their cup of tea. I prefer to have a clear audio thats loud enough to hear and not blasting. People will listen to you better this way because its easier on their ears than an audio on the brink of distortion. This mic is perfect for my needs. Something else that I have always wondered about is when you use an amplified mic on a radio with a mic gain. I bet this makes a good match more challenging. Who knows whats the best setting on the mic gain radio? I bet a radio without a mic gain is a better match with this mic. I did try Hollowpoints method and I found that the radio gain at 100 percent is best. So I just adjust the mics gain only. I just hope these issues get resolved and nobody else runs into any problems. |
Waverider
Member Username: Waverider
Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:49 pm: |
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Man was I excited to see another mic finally on the market. Since I run SSB 90% of the time compression sounded like a good thing. However after reading the posts here I think I'll hold off a while. I need to understand if the problems folks are having are the mic, or if it does not like certain radios, or just operator related. You folks that already have 'em and are posting you're results are to be thanked. :-))) The exchange of info on this fourm is great. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 871 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 5:58 pm: |
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The mic creates a pulse in the speaker when the red light blinks on the mic. In the receive mode I can get in the mic and talk and get talkback and if I crowd the mic it will squell through the speaker. All of this with the mic "unkeyed." I can't run the compressor on high on SSB either. Anyway, it's here and it's all mine and it's all my fault. Later, Mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9492 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 7:38 pm: |
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Mikefromms, Sorry but as yet we have not found any radio that we needed to use the High Compression on be it a CB, Export or Ham Radio. Just because it has a High Setting does not mean thet it needs to be used as all radios, people, voices, stations, setups are different and while one radio may require use of the HIGH Setting most other radios may require the LOW setting be used. While some Ham radios may need you to use the High Compresson I have not found any as yet that do and the LOW setting has worked great. The microphone VU Meter will move as it is very sensitive when the Microphone is unkeyed but this does not allow it to be transmitting unless you have the LOCK button engaged. The JCD-201M is VERY SENSITIVE and there is no need to crowd it. Anyway, ours are here and they are all ours and it is our fault that we have received GREAT Audio reports over the last 16 weeks from everyone that we have talked with on the Sunday CEF Nets and and 100% of the time with every contact we have made and we have never received a bad audio report from anyone except when we tried the High Compression setting on the Sunday nets. While there may be a radio that requires a person to use the HIGH Compression setting we have not found any as yet. It is like every microphone manufactured and you will find that no two people use them the same, you will need to find what settings and distance you need to use for your Voice. We have used it with the Magnum S-3, S-6, S-9, S-45 Omega Force, Magnum257, President Lincoln, Ranger 696F SSB BASE, 2970DX, 2995DX, Uniden PC78, Voyage VR9000, Cobra150GTL with the coppression on LOW and the Microphone about 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 feet from us and have never had a problem with it or needed to use the High Compression setting. Sorry but we have not had any feedback or pulse noise from the microphone when keyed to transmit or unkeyed when not transmitting but the all of our equipment radios, meters, antennas are all grounded to a single point ground here. What Make/Model of radio are you using that you are having these problems with? Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 & 1st Sargant CEF#164 CVC#3 |
Troublemaker
Intermediate Member Username: Troublemaker
Post Number: 289 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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I used my JCD-201M today for the first time. I talked to Radiodude,CEF-123 on lsb.I don't have any problems with the mic. I tried it on the Magnum S-3200b,,Ranger 696f works perfect on both,no talkback,no nothing,just perfect to me. next try will be on the Lincoln. my .2 JDC-201M CEF-303 KD8CKF |
Tech291
Moderator Username: Tech291
Post Number: 380 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 9:04 pm: |
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Mike, How about a little more background on your setup so that we might help.What kind of radio and other inline equipment being used?I have been testing the JCD-201m for many weeks now(with and without the footswitch option) and have yet to find a radio it doesnt like!With the reports I have been recieving,both am and ssb I havnt needed to use the manual compression level control.Low compression seems to work best for me on all radios I have tried it on. Radios I have used it on are as follows; President Lincoln Uniden HR-2510 Uniden Pro-810e 5 wire Grant 5 wire Washington Galaxy DX-959 Galaxy DX-2547 Midland 79-290 Midland 79-893 Sears Roadtalker 663-381 RCI 5054 6 meter and Icom IC-260e 2 meter others will follow as time allows. I have not experienced the talkback problem on radios that do not have it stock and the ones that do have it I keep it turned off anyways(ABSOLUTLY THE MOST USELESS feature they ever thought of!). Local 11 meter reports of the audio quality of the JCD-201m place it between the Astatic K-Night Eagle and Turner SSK with my voice.The local hams on 6 meter ssb say it compares with the Kenwood mc-80. It sounds to me like yours may be wired incorrectly.Some radios use a resistor network for the channel up/down feature,something the JCD-201m doesnt have.As for the pulse from the led,are you using v+ from the radio to power the mic or internal batteries?Help us help you. TECH291 CEF#291/CVC#6 KC8ZPJ |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1326 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 9:30 pm: |
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i wonder if all this could have to do with a problem in the PTT switch in the mic. if it doesnt fully disconnect from TX when unkeyed, couldnt it cause these symptoms? and mikefrommes' mic is stuck right in the middle. i dont know, im just bringing up ideas here. anyone who is experiencing problems with their new mic brave enough to open it? i dont know the warranty situation concering this mic. matt |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9494 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 12:27 am: |
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The Push to Talk Button on this mic is unlike most other PT switches on microphones. It is a Spring Loaded center control switch that is depressed by the PTT button to complete the circuit to transmit. If the Spring in the PTT pot should ever break it would remain in the OPEN position not the Transmit position. I personally would not suggest anyone opening this mic as all they will find is 4 ptt switches for the PTT / CH UP / CH DN / LOCK and 3 ~ 3 position switches and the Manual Level control pot and the rest is mostly SMT. It would be impossible for mikefromms's microphone to be stuck in between any position. If the PTT control pot is broken then it will remain OPEN and not transmit at all as there will be nothing to push to complete the transmit circuit. Lon Tech808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 872 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 6:03 pm: |
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I'm using the Magnum Omega Force S-45 radio on a power supply in the house. I mentioned that the mike only take the channels down not up. Could it be wired up wrong and the other problem be the result of this? Everything is grounded very good. I do have another mike hooked up on the other side. It the Superstar DM-452 mic. Maybe I should take it off and see how the desk mic works alone. Mikefromms |
Tech291
Moderator Username: Tech291
Post Number: 381 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 8:36 pm: |
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Mike, been doing a little research on the S-45 and it DOES require a resistor to be switched between pins 3 and 4 of the 6 pin plug to have the radio "channel up".that would mean a modification I wont recommend because of warranty issues and as Lon stated in his post above the mic is smd design. Using a scope and signal tracer,I could find no pulse being generated on any of the 8 wires from the mic.out of curiosity,2 questions; first is any wire hooked to pin 6 of the radio plug and second,does the radio still have "talkback" in recieve with the mic power switch off? TECH291 CEF#291/CVC#6 KC8ZPJ |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 873 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:34 am: |
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I removed the other mike and it still talks back. It does not talk back with the mike turned off. It is not keying the radio but I can cause the meter on the mic to swing way over if I crowd the mic. Again, this is with the mic unkeyed in the receive mode. Mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9506 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 7:05 pm: |
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Mikefromms, The VU meter swinging when you do not have the PTT Button depressed is Standard when the MODE Switch is in the FM/SSB MODE and yes you can make it swing all the way over if you croud it or talk in a loud voice when unkeyed. I guess I am used to our VU Meter swinging as it is very sensitive when it is unkeyed in the standby mode it is not transmitting and when I am not in a conversation I simply turn the MODE switch to POWER OFF. TALK BACK ISSUE SOLVED. I just got off the phone with Sam Lewis From Magnum Radios/Adonis Microphones USA. He says the talk back is a standard feature in the Adonis and other Import Ham Microphones when you are unkeyed as this is an added feature included in the microphone that many of the Ham users wanted to check thier audio when not keyed down and transmitting. I guess it only works with some of the higher end CB/Export radios that are manufactured and most all Ham Radios on the market. And since this Microphone was designed to work with all Ham Radios then it makes sense now. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Jasper
New member Username: Jasper
Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 8:00 am: |
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Well finally got my JCD-201m and hooked it up to my RCI 2995 And the reports were outstanding.SSb Audio really punches through. But then things went south when I went to change Freq with the up down buttons on the MIC.it only change the Freq up.So talked To the tech at copper and they havent seen any that did that yet. So back to copper it went cant wait to get It back. Jasper 771 |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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After using my JCD for a few weeks now I have decided that the low compression setting is the best for my radio. This is a VERY sensitive mic! I turn back the radio mic gain to 3 o clock just as before with the old astatic mic. I am now acustomed to this mic and I need to make no more adjustments anymore. All is perfect. Thanks Copper for carrying a qaulity mic. Anyone having trouble with theirs just be patient as I'm sure Copper will take care of you soon enough! Don't give up! 73 |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9519 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 1:19 pm: |
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Moderator Note! I just talked with the Copper Tech and he asked me to make this post. Should anyone have any problems with the JCD-201M Desk Microphone PLEASE call 1-502-815-0370 to speak to the Copper Tech during regular Copper Business Hours. Should he be busy or on another line PLEASE leave a MESSAGE and include YOUR FULL NAME and YOUR PHONE NUMBER WHERE YOU CAN BE REACHED so he can return your call to help you. Thank you, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 274 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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WELL I did it I ordered a JDC-201M..went in the back yard and dug up one of them jar's hidden out there and ordered it today. I heard one wednesday and loved it and actually got to touch it too!.can't wait....Capt Hook |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1097 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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Right on Hook! |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 3:32 am: |
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Wow I think I will order this Mic. I have a RCI 2995dx,RCI 2980,Cobra 2000GTL, and a Tram D201, will this mic. work on these Radios? Mostly on the 2995dx!!!! |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 5:10 am: |
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I have read so much about this Mic. and so many have given great reports, but before I order one of these JDC-201m ,I would like to know who makes this great Microphone? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9635 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 9:36 am: |
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Wayne, They are Manufactured to Copper Electronics Specifications by: JCC ~ JEIL COMMUNICATION CO. And Copper Electronics is the Exclusive Distributor for the USA. Hope this helps, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 2:21 am: |
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Thanks Lon; So no other CB shop can get this Mic. so I guess I will be getting in touch with copper. Thanks again Lon, Wayne CEF158 |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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Lon I made a small mistake when I ordered my mic. last night, I was planning to install the mic. plug myself, but I didn't tell them what radios I would be using the mic. for. It will be a 2995dx and a 2980 RCI will I need to contact copper about this? Thanks CEF 158 Wayne |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9646 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 7:42 am: |
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Wayne, Sorry I did not catch this post until this morning as I was out of town most all day yesterday. You can call 1-800-626-6343 and ask for the Copper Tech and he should be able to help you. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 1:18 pm: |
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Thanks Lon!!!! You"re the the best. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 874 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 7:24 pm: |
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I sincerely believe most cber's would be more satisfied with the Superstar DM-452. You can really push the 452 and it's as loud as a D-104. As for this new deskmic...the romance is over. Mikefromms |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9668 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 8:08 pm: |
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While I cannot speak for "most cbers" I can say with over 400 contacts with other CEF Radio Club Members on the air during the Sunday CEF Nets and daily through the week over the last 7-1/2 months using and testing the JCD-201M Microphone and "EVERY SINGLE CEF CONTACT" has picked the JCD-201M over our Astatic, D-104,, Silver Eagle, Night Eagle, DM-452, Turner +3 as well as other power mics and all stock mics we have used and tested it against. We have NEVER had to push any microphone to get 100% GOOD CLEAR MODULATION if we did it went in the garbage. When the JCD-201M will PUNCH through the pileup when no other mic will, we are VERY HAPPY! This is just our own personal experience with well over 4000 hours of actual on air time talking with other Copper Forum Members and CEF Radio Club Members. While I cannot speak for everyone who has a JCD-201M Microphone I honestly can say that I have only heard from 1 single person so far who has not liked the performance/quality/functions and ease of use of this microphone. Heck I figure with over 400 on air contacts with other CEF Radio Club Members they cannot all be wrong when they tell ALL tell us it is the Cleanest, Loudest, Best Sounding Microphone they have ever heard the 1st Sargant and I use. While we have never found 100% of the people who will like a certain mic we have found 100% of the Copper Forum Members and CEF Radio Club Members that we have talked with have ALL picked the JCD-201M microphone over all others microphones we have used over the years. Is it for everyone? Probalbly not. But you will not need to crowd it or push it like other mics or have it cranked all the way up to just get 100% Clear, LOUD Modulation and be heard. NOTE! We also have BOTH of our mic cords wired on BOTH sides of the JCD-201M to the Cobra/Uniden 4 pin wiring pattern that allows us to use the Microphone Adapters to operate it on EVERY Uniden/Cobra/Magnum/RCI/President and other radios we have or want to use. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 & Shirley 1st Sargant CEF164 |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 279 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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Well I got my (Super MIC) JCD-201m and everyone who heard me said one thing where can they get it? this mic kicks but .all the other mic's are hanging on hook's I just might use them for Xmas decoratios on the tree .I would like to get a cord made up for my washington soon if I can.have to look into it. |
Bruce
Senior Member Username: Bruce
Post Number: 3730 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 9:56 pm: |
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Lon does it have a prewired cord for the IC-706 ? if so how much ? |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 59 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 2:37 am: |
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Capt_hook so you got your mic., maybe mine will come in this week. I''m on Vac. this week boy whish mic. will come before I have to go back to work. Come on Copper!!!!!!!!! I'm ready to TALK!!! |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1141 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 7:48 am: |
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Hey Bruce, The JCD 201M has an 8 pin mic plug on its cord so I'm sure Copper can wire the other end to your IC-706. They charge 10 dollars to wire a mic to a radio. 73 Calm down Wayne!!!!!!!!!!!!! Capt hook.....My Silver Astatic might look ok on a xmas tree. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9705 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 10:02 am: |
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Bruce, At this time Copper does not have the Pre-wired Jumper Cords for the Icom, Kenwood or Yaesu Ham Radios. Hopefully if there is enough of a demand from the Copper Forum Members the Forummaster will have them coming with the 2nd shipment of Microphones. NOTE! Sorry but at this time I do not know when that will be. I will start another TOPIC just for the HAM Copper Forum Members who have or will have the JCD-201M to post and let us know what they would need/want. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1145 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 1:32 pm: |
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Opps, sorry Bruce. I was wrong, bummer. Hopefully Copper will take care of things! |
Brain_damage
Junior Member Username: Brain_damage
Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:25 am: |
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if copper is an exclusive distributor for the jcd-201m mic, how come ******* is also selling them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9769 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:46 am: |
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Brain_damage, I just love answering easy questions. Because they purchased them from COPPER ELECTRONICS. Just CLICK HERE! And read the QUANTITY DISCOUNTS which is good for anyone or any Dealer who wishes to purchase them in quantity. Just because another dealer has them does not mean they are the Distributor for them as they have to purchase them direct from Copper Electronics the same as you or I. Hope this helps, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Wayne
Member Username: Wayne
Post Number: 60 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 1:59 pm: |
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WOW!!!!! I got my Mic. today.Used it with my 2995 boy its wild at first, I had to play with it before I got it to work. Talked to a couple of guys and tried to compare the new mic. with my standard mic. He told me it wasn't much diffrent,boy I was getting worried, But you got to remember some people know you have something brand new, its not as good as there equipment. But still got worried, but the fact I was trying to get the hang of the mic. and I was on AM and he didn't live to far from me about 6 miles. So I found a buddy on the air later that day and we were on sideband, NOW that was the boom!!! WOW that mic. was bad to the bone, it works great tried FM and it wouldn't stop getting better. I need to do some more test but Copper you made it happen. Now I need to get another mic. cable for my 2980, couldn't find how to ordet it from Copper. Need some help someone!! Could I get the mic. cable at a local cb shop????? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9794 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 2:05 pm: |
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Wayne, Just give Copper a call at:1-800-626-6343 and ask for Suzanne and place your order. Hope this help's, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1208 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 2:07 pm: |
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You have to call Copper to order another mic cord. Ask for Suzzanne. She is the lady I ordered my second cord from. I doubt any cb shop will have that specific cord unless they ordered some from Copper. |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1327 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:54 am: |
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I am preparing a full review and technical comparison of the new mic right now. Stay tuned... |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1192 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 9:03 am: |
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Could you give us a preview of what you'll be evaluating and the comparisons you'll be making? The reason I ask is that microphones seem to be such a personal and subjective choice. There are folks who live and die with a D104, while some folks don't care for them at all. I personally prefer a microphone that has a fairly flat response so my on air audio sounds as much as I do in person as possible, but some people chose a microphone because they think it's taylored response makes their voice sound better. |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1221 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Tech 833, AWESOME! I can't wait!!!!!!!!! |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1330 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 5:21 pm: |
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It is a lab review, not a 'subjective' one. 5-figure test instruments and nothing but the facts, no emotions, no opinion. That's how I do things. |
Chad
Advanced Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 793 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Are you going to do impulse response measurements and a full B&K FR response too? I'd also like to see anechoic input to output measurements too just to see how the compressor works. Just kidding Chad |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
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Would you like me to test the moisture resistance while I am at it? |
Chad
Advanced Member Username: Chad
Post Number: 794 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Shock resistance, And I wanna see video Chad |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1225 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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The whole 9 yards please! Even toss it from a 10 story building and see what happens! Cover it with mud and see if it still sounds good! I wanna know if I have a qaulity product. I will give you mine to do the test.........sike! Just kidding Paul! Thanks for all your time and work. We all appreciate what you do for us! Again thank you sir. Kenny CEF491 |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1196 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:16 pm: |
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How about it's pH? |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1335 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:34 am: |
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Here's a sneek-peek. But, nothing more... Yet! I tried it on the air for the first time tonight (on 80 meters SSB). Reports are mixed so far. Some stations report that when using the FM mode, the mic sounds natural, but harsh (compared to my normal mic, a 60's vintage Shure model 450). On SSB setting, the far away stations in WA, NV, and WY said it made a big, noticeable improvement in my signal and readability. Close in people said I sound like I am pinching my nose. I am excited to see what happens when I run it on the lab gear. |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 284 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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Hotwire I don't think it would pass the BIG TRUCK running over it test myself .the testing I give it is good for me |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1377 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 5:39 pm: |
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What does the audio compare to on this new mic on AM mode??? Does it sound the least bit tinty??? My desk mic has bit the dust. So, i'm seriously considering this new mic. Any comments??? Thanks I'm running a RCI 2995dx base. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1378 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 6:43 pm: |
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After re-reading all the posts again. I'm going to get some money gathered up and try this new mic for myself. Since i use AM mode 99% of the time, hopefully it will work out for me. Hopefully i get no talkback on my RCI 2995dx base as that would drive me nuts...LOL |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9886 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 8:00 am: |
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Road_warrior, Just read our CEF Connection's we have posted over the last 26 weeks and the GREAT AUDIO report's other CEF Member's have given us ON THE AIR and also posted here in the forum when we have been using this mic. We also use AM 99.9% of the time with our 2995DX, Galaxy Saturn Turbo and our 2970DX and have always received GREAT AUDIO Report's EVERY SUNDAY and through out the week when we have made connection's with other CEF Radio Club Member's and Copper Forum Member's. The ONLY time we use SSB is during the Sunday CEF Net's or when a checking for CEF Member's on channel 13/27.115 LSB during the week and the rest of the time we are on channel 13/27.115AM You will find it is a VERY Sensitive Mic and you will NOT have to EAT it or PUSH it or CROWD it like other mics to receive great audio report's. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1379 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:37 am: |
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Yeah, i'll give it a try Lon. Sometimes a few negatives things said, will stick in your mind and you forget about the many,many positives. So, looking at the whole pie, the new mic should work very well. How long is the jumper that comes with the new mic??? Thanks |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 877 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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What happened to my post? It was an honest suggestion and opinion. I thought that's what this was about here? Live and learn together. Not everyone will like the same thing. Mikefromms |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1381 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 5:24 pm: |
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True, not everyone will like the same thing Mike. So, i feel it's best to find out 1st hand by buying one and finding out for myself. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1383 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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How long is the jumper that comes with the mic??? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9896 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 9:57 am: |
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Road_warrior, The Jumper's are 4' Long Hope this help's, Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1384 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 2:03 pm: |
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Thanks Lon- that's plenty long for me. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 878 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 8:04 pm: |
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Good luck. I wish I had that $156 back. I still say it won't touch the Superstar DM 452 mic. The mic has some nice features and some annoying features. Could be my radio (Magnum OF-45) just isn't right for this mic. The main thing is we all enjoy talking on the radio, whatever we use for a mic. Happy cbing everyone. Mikefromms |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1388 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 11:18 pm: |
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I have 3 DM-452s Mike. Sorry the mic didn't work out for you. I will give it a try and let everybody know how it worked out. Will be ordering the mic the 1st week of june. |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1280 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 12:26 pm: |
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Mikefromms, Hey man sorry about how you feel about the mic. I'm sure its just that model radio that is giving you problems. Its an awesome radio you have. You do have a great mic ready if you ever buy a new radio in the future. If you decide to sale it you can get top dollar for it. I just hate to think its a loss to you. I know it does'nt work right but at least you have a well made mic that you paid for. You could have paid the same for something that was junk an not useable. Not trying to sugar coat your situation I just know exactly how you feel. What a bummer.73 |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 879 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 7:09 pm: |
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Thanks Hotwire for your kind words. You make some good points. Maybe I can wire it for some other radio some day. Afterall, the Magnum OF-45 doesn't need much help anyway. Let me say this now: I am truly glad this mic is working out for you and others. My experience is not everybody's experience. Thanks for the uplifting words. Mikefromms |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1302 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Mikefromms, Your welcome man! I knew back in March you was having trouble with it. I was just hoping you would get it worked out. I felt really bad knowing how much I bragged about mine and how others are getting good reports too. I never tried to rub it in if it thats how it sounded. I still go back and forth between the desk mic and the Astatic 636. Hard to ditch my beloved favorite mic of all time! Your right about the OmegaForce! One mean radio that I have had on my wishlist for a while above the S-9! Would be nice to have a rig that breaks the norm of a channel selector. Just gotta memorize them freqs! Anyways....Hope to get ya in Dx land soon or on the net! 73! |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1398 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 10:42 am: |
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Well, i have $120.00 saved back for the new mic. Had some extra bills this month to deal with,so, i fell alittle short. So, definitly will be order one the beginning of June. |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1313 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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Awwww forget those bills! Who needs gas water and electricity anyway? Well may electricity for the mic. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1399 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 1:35 pm: |
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Well, lady luck shined on me about 1/2 hour ago. Bought a instant lottery ticket and hit $80.00! Called Coppers, but, they were closed Will order new mic Monday. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9925 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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Road_warrior, GOOD DEAL! Lady Luck can be a VERY NICE LADY at times. As I stated above we have been 100% happy with the performance and GREAT Audio report's we have received from the CEF Member's on the Sunday CEF Net's on AM and LSB and other Copper Forum Member's we have been talking with when using it with our 2995DX, 2970DX and Galaxy Saturn Turbo. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 & Shirley 1st Sargant CEF164 CVC#3 |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 880 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 9:32 pm: |
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Hotwire, don't have to memorize anything. The Omega Force has the inbetween channels and uses an A system, like, 7 and next 7a and 19 and 19a and whereever there are inbetween channels. It's neat. The 257 does the same thing and I suppose the S-9. Cb's are like guns, you just can't get enough of them. Later, Mikefromms |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2819 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 10:03 pm: |
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unfortunately the S9 doesn't if modded 'normally'-you need the 10kc switch to get the 'A's'. if you mod it for full coverage in 10kc or 5kc steps, it'll tune straight thru every freq, but will not display a channel #. my delta does as your omega-i like it |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1527 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 2:18 am: |
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has anyone compared this mic to the MFJ-299 or MFJ-297? looks very similar. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... matt |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9933 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 7:39 am: |
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Kid_vicious, Sorry but no I have not. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 233 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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Kid Vicious The JCD-201M sounds better than the MFJ-299!If you try to run a amp with the MFJ-299 your audio gets scratchy and grably.I'm running my JCD-201M on my FT-847 and the audio is great.I did have to get a mic cord made and there was a issue with wiring diagram but things got worked out. Gage |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1405 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 1:54 pm: |
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on your mic Gage! |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 234 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 2:36 pm: |
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Road Warrior Thanks!!I realy like the mic!Its is a mic for Export and Ham radios! Gage |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1531 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 6:10 pm: |
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gage, you own both of them? would you mind giving me a rundown of your observations, and comparisons? thanks, matt |
Gage
Intermediate Member Username: Gage
Post Number: 235 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 7:32 pm: |
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Kid Vicious Yes I own both mics. Well it seems like with the MFJ-299,no matter how you adjust the Graphic Equalizer the mic seems like the audio wants to change!Like I stated before the MFJ-299 sounds bad when running a amp! There is some issues that need to be resovled with the MFJ-299.Would I recommend the MFJ-299 No! I would go with the JCD-201M Coppers is not making me say this.I go with what works if the mic did not work I would not be bragging it up! Just my thoughts! Gage CEF-114 |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1534 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 11:13 pm: |
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oh, im already aware of how good the JCM is. i just want to compare it to similar products. do these mics seem to share any manufacturing similarities? i dont understand how the mic sound would be affected by an amp. ssems to me that would be the amps fault. but i dont know your situation. thanks for the input, matt |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1408 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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I ordered the JCD-201M mic this morning. I'll get back to everyone after i recieve and get to use the mic. |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1427 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
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Like i reported in the other post. Recieved JCD-201M mic yesterday. I do have one question after using it quite a bit. The FM position on my mic does not work correctly for AM or FM mode talking. Modulation is low on FM position on those modes. I have to use the SSB position on the mic for all modes AM/FM/SSB. AM/FM/SSB sounds excellent using the SSB position. But, is this normal? Or something not right here? |
Tech833
Moderator Username: Tech833
Post Number: 1349 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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Your radio may not have good bass response (a rolloff filter perhaps?). The FM position has full sound while the SSB position has a sharp boost around 1-2 kc. Look for the full review (with pictures) any day now. |
Hotwire
Senior Member Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1346 Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
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Road Warrior, I never tried FM mode with mine. I use the FM switch to transmit in AM mode. Reports are I sound distorted using the SSB switch while in AM mode. While in SSB mode I use the SSB switch for best performance, FM not as good while in SSB mode. |
Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 374 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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roadwarrior turn mic gain on radio all way up if its not already |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1432 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:47 am: |
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On my 2995 Dx if placed on low compression and in the FM mode and talking on AM the modulation is very low and pinched sounding. On the SSB mode and talking on AM the modulation steps up a notch, clears, but, still is slightly pinched. On manual mode it sounds pinched no matter where i place the manual level control. My wifes voice did not match the mic no matter what setting it was on. Tried high compression setting with no luck. What do you think Tech 833??? |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1433 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 2:46 pm: |
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Mic gain was all the way up there Dale. But, thanks for the suggestion. My friend brought me a ton of mics to test on my radio. The most near perfect sound was from a Turner +3 B and Lafayette Range Boost Desk mics. Which are basically the same mic. Had my wife and son transmit and they also sounded great. So, i purchased them off my friend. I wish the new mic would of worked better on my radio, but, that's the way things go. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9995 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 9:06 am: |
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Yesterday During CEF LSB Net. Radio 2995DX Mic JCD-201M Setting's: JCD-201M MODE: FM COMP: MANUAL MANUAL LEVEL SET at 2nd dot from MIN Microphone about 16" from me sitting on desk with Foam mic head Cover OFF. Ranger 2995DX Mic Gain on 2995DX set at: 5 Only confirmed contact posted below information: Tex46 Junior Member Username: Tex46 Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 1:42 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MADE MY FIRST COPPER NET CONTACT IN 6 WEEKS. 808 WAS LOUD AND CLEAR IN TEXAS SUNDAY MORNING ON LSB. THANKS BOB 612 Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Dale
Intermediate Member Username: Dale
Post Number: 446 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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hows thaT MIKE WORKING FOR YA ROADWARRIOR.sorry about the caps .i forgot about this post lol |
Road_warrior
Senior Member Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1574 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 8:42 pm: |
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I had to send it back Dale. The switches weren't working correctly. |
Crackshot
Intermediate Member Username: Crackshot
Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 9:43 am: |
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I need a desk mic to use for my FT-2800M. Did the up/down functions work fine? I have a modular crimper and xtra 6 pin connectors. Can you provide diagram how to wire it up? KE7JFA CEF 655 HAM 225 ARRL Member
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Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 12676 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 7:49 am: |
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Factory JCD-201M Wiring is: PIN #1 = SHIELD ~ SHIELD / MIC - PIN #2 = BROWN ~ AUDIO / MIC + PIN #3 = WHITE ~ COMMON PIN #4 = GREEN ~ PTT PIN #5 = BLACK ~ CH UP PIN #6 = YELLOW ~ CH DOWN PIN #7 = BLUE ~ CH COMMON PIN #8 = RED ~ V + Supply to Mic Hope this help's, Lon Tech808 N9CEF CEF#808/HAM#33 CVC#002
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Mikefromms
Senior Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 1000 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 10:06 pm: |
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Well, I'm going to get my local tech to wire this mic up for my Ft-897D and see how it works out. It may just fit the bill. I'll let you all know. Mikefromms |
Mikefromms
Senior Member Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 1001 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 6:06 pm: |
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I was advised to go with something else for this application; I'm sure it is a good mic on most radios. Mikefromms |
Gator44
Junior Member Username: Gator44
Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2007
| Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 4:29 am: |
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I have the JCD-201 that I run on my RCI 2980 and on my TR696f SSB for 6 month's now....and would not try using anything else! After I hooked up with some locals, they wondered what I did different to my station. I run mine on am 99% of the time and have had zero problems out of it. It seems the further away the contact is, the more of a difference it makes,"stronger". All the locals tell me it does'nt have the bass like my D-104 has but..has more punch! With all that said..my D-104 is now on the bench and my JCD-201m is now my starter. |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 314 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 12:39 pm: |
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the JCD-201 can a jumper be made for a Icom 718 ? as well ????.........Capt Hook |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 315 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 12:49 pm: |
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on an, on an on ,this mic is still the best mic I own I got it on my Texas ranger696f.and I still get great reports as well. thinking of getting ajumper made for my Icom 718 if possable .............CaptHook |
Dxswe
New member Username: Dxswe
Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 - 1:21 pm: |
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I wonder the wiring code for an icom 735 please. 21TM006
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Hyperno_1979
Advanced Member Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 747 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 5:28 am: |
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OK. IC 718, 735 etc that use the MC12, MC36 type mic should wire up the same. Same as my IC 725. Be aware that Icoms supply 8v up one of the connections. I did post the wiring for a JCD to Icom where and when i can't remember. CEFFFCEF Bob CEF703/CVC26 703 New South Wales
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