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TheMerc
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 1:29 pm: | 
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Hey 307,
I read your review on this product, and I have a question. You mentioned that when the switching takes place that the input is connected to the antenna. Does this mean that there is no simultaneous connection to both inputs, and the antenna for receive ? Or does the switch really just disconnect one of the inputs when RF is sensed by the other ? I would hope that you could have receive with both radios that are connected to this switch, and the switch would just disconnect one of the radios while the other is in transmit. Otherwise this switch would only be practical for a test bench, and only for working transmit functions. Please clear this up for me. I would like to place a order. |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 7:17 am: |
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good question i picked up one to switch my fm radio and cb set off the same antenna it appers that if you transmitt the other ant/radio connection is disconected that is good i would not want my midland cb eating the output of that allinco only 2.6 megs away. |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 11:13 am: |
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By the way it is a very well made product dont drop it on your foot... |
TheMerc
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 11:29 pm: |
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I got my hands on one finally, and found that it does not connect the antenna to both radios for simultaneous receive. It just switches in the antenna when one of the radios are keyed, and will switch to the other radio if it is keyed. I guess it is still handy, but having both radios receiving at the same time would have been much more fun. The manufacturer states on the packaging that "It is equipped with a specially designed relay which enables to receive both receivers simultaneously" It just dont work that way. I tested 3 of these, and they all worked the same way. Too bad... |
applejack
| | Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 8:07 pm: |
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heres a question. if you put it inline in the basement and turn on both radios but don't key either radio which one will receive? |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 1:36 pm: |
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both of them. |
applejack
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 8:51 pm: |
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hey merk, back to my question does that mean that until one radio is keyed that neither will receive? |
Bullseye
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 12:03 am: |
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Applejack From what I can tell the radio on the closed circuit will be the one to receive.You would,apparently,have to key the other radio to switch the relay. It appears the relay would be on one or the other. There does'nt appear to be a "neutral" position. |
applejack
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 10:37 am: |
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yes i understand that keying switching part, but when both radios are first turned on and neither keyed do both receive or both not receive??? |
Taz
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 6:26 pm: |
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both would have to receive. there is no switch on it to control it. thats the whole point of the as-100 is to not know what radio your going to use until you key it. |
Bullseye
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 11:21 pm: |
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What I am saying is it contains a 2(TWO) position relay. When you hook it up for the very first time it will be in one position or the other. One radio will receive and one will not. Which one depends on the position of the relay during assembly at the factory.It will only let the signal pass to one receiver at a time fate and the installer will decide where it goes. |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:01 am: |
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I see.
But it will then work on both right? |
applejack
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 9:57 am: |
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okay! that's the answer i was trying to get. right now i have a maco model 45 co ax switch in the basement connecting 1 radio on the first floor and 1 on the second floor. the 1 on the first is the primary use one, and the switch is set for it, but good or bad due to the nature of the maco switch i still have some receive, at least of strong signals, on the 2nd radio. |
Highlander
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 10:25 am: |
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Darnit, TAZ, the answer is NO!!!. Only one radio will receive at a time, no exceptions!!! LOL!!! |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 6:02 pm: |
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ok, then how do you swith it over to the other radio? |
Carolinagold
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 11:34 am: |
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you key up the other radio and it will switch |
Peddler
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:07 pm: |
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Kinda slow ? |
applejack
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 8:31 pm: |
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kinda |
applejack
| | Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 11:25 pm: |
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but hey it works just fine. I have had one for about 6 weeks and am real glad to have it. my radio setup is the same, plus i DO HAVE receive on both radios at the same time right or wrong. when i turn the radio on the receive is somewhat muted on both radios but one tap of the key and its up to full receive.
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applejack
| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 9:57 pm: |
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the AS100 is rated to take 100 watts. does the company that makes it make one that will take more power, or does anyone know of another company that does? |
Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 289
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 2:23 am: |
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4 1/2 years later and still no answer. im getting tired of waiting |
Paganville
Junior Member
Username: Paganville
Post Number: 21
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:32 am: |
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That's stinkin funny Applejack!!! Sometimes I bring posts from the past up to try and get a response, but mine are not nearly as funny. BTW I don't have any info that would help you,sorry...But I did enjoy the chuckle! |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14869
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 8:42 am: |
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Applejack,
Doing a Search in the copper forum here for AS100 I found the following:
Copper Talk
» Ask The Tech
» General Technical Questions
» Archived Messages
» AS100 switch - 2 radios active at the same time?
So I guess your question was already answered in another Topic back on June 26, 2002 - 1:16 pm:.
Over "5" years ago.
Isn't the Search feature GREAT!
Lon~Tech808
CEF#808/HAM#001/CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 302
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 11:38 pm: |
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no, what i wanted to know was if euro or any other manufacturer, made an automatic switch that would handle more than 100 watts. that question has not been answered. aj |
Tech858
Moderator
Username: Tech858
Post Number: 101
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 1:54 pm: |
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HOW MUCH POWER !!!!! , there are antenna switches out there that DO handle high power it just depends on how much you want to pay , how many coax connections you need , how much power you want to put through it .
Tech858/Jim
MM0TXO
CEF#858
HAM#230
CVC#116
Wavin' a hand at ya' fae Scotland 
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Johhn
Intermediate Member
Username: Johhn
Post Number: 120
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 1:03 pm: |
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That look's like an Blown engine.
Not an antenna switch !!! |
Unit199
Advanced Member
Username: Unit199
Post Number: 589
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 6:21 pm: |
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No, There is no manufacturers out there that make them that will handle more than 100 watts. To clarify this, this means no automatic switches!
HARVE
UNIT199
CEF210
CVC#18
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15093
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 8:16 pm: |
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Applejack,
If you were asking about an Antenna Switch for Antennas ie: 1 radio to more than 1 antenna then Jim/Tech858 is 100% correct in his post above. 
So YES, there are AUTOMATIC Antenna Switches out there that WILL handle MORE than 100 watts.
But they are NOT cheap.
Do a GOOGLE search for:
AS-204 DC - 600MHz. 4 Port Electronic AntennaSwitch
It is an AUTOMATIC 4 Port Electronic Antenna Switch.
The AS-204 Mast Mounted Antenna Switch along with the supplied AC-204 controller alllows automatic antenna selection between a common feedline and 4 antennas.
No additional interface cables are required because all switching logic and control voltages are supplied by the AC-204 via the feedline.
Simply connect the AC-204 to your rig or linear amplifier, your coax between the AC-204 and the AS-204 and you have 4 port antenna selection at your finger tips.
FEATURES:
3.5MHz. - 600MHz.
4 Port Selection allows switching between the Common Port and four other Ports
High Power Operation:
1.5KW PEP at 13.5 - 30.0MHz.
800 Watts PEP at VHF
600 Watts PEP at UHF
Type - N Female or S-239 Connectors (specify)
Low Insertion Loss:
0.25dB at 500MHz.
Requires 13.8VAC
Hope this help's,
Lon~Tech808
CEF#808/HAM#001/CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 493
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 7:41 pm: |
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Jim,
after reading the thread,it sounds to me like Applejack is asking about a different kind of switch.The as-100 would let you run 2 radios on 1 antenna at the same time.And what he is looking for is one that will handle higher power levels than the as-100(100 watt).one that will automatically switch to the active radio.
tech291
cef291/cvc6
kc8zpj |
Captian_radio
Intermediate Member
Username: Captian_radio
Post Number: 324
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 8:50 pm: |
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I have an Ameritron remote switcher,you can switch between 4 different antennas just by using the one feed line.I have run close to 700 watts through it and it performed flawlessly.
BobCEF451/VE1CZ
Robert L. Spicer The days of radio are just beginning!
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Tech858
Moderator
Username: Tech858
Post Number: 103
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 9:13 pm: |
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After having worked as a radio communications engineer for a number of years I can say that there are "AUTOMATIC COAXIAL SWITCHES" for using multiple radios with one antenna that handle powers up to 1kw these are not your run of the mill switches and are used in the UK Coastguard's radio installations and other government based installs , they are manufactured by the likes of Motorola , Simoco , Phillips and a few other manufacturers , that is why I said what I said in my post , it is all a question of "HOW MUCH ??" Maybe sort of rediculous prices for use with CB radio but to say there are "NO" manufacturers out there is incorrect
Tech858/Jim
MM0TXO
CEF#858
HAM#230
CVC#116
Wavin' a hand at ya' fae Scotland
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15100
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 8:56 am: |
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Copper Forum Member's,
When a Question is Asked and Answered with Correct and Helpful Information from the Copper Forum Member's like Applejacks post above in this topic and below in this post:
Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 11:38 pm:
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no, what i wanted to know was if euro or any other manufacturer, made an automatic switch that would handle more than 100 watts. that question has not been answered. aj
that is being Helpful and Informative to Applejack and other Copper Forum Member's who may have the same question now and in the future who will read the Topic.
Sorry, but there is no Copper Forum Member or Copper Forum Moderator/Tech who has the answer to every question.
That is what the Copper Electronics Forum is all about Copper Forum Member's coming together to help other Copper Forum Member's with Correct and Helpful information.
Lon~Tech808
CEF#808/HAM#001/CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 316
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 12:18 am: |
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okay well im back,and just now read the responces since january 1st. since then i have installed the as100 before the amp in the basement no longer making it neccesary to have a higher rated capacity switch. i now have an mfj 1703 antenna rf safety switch hooked to main radios in living room, and everything works GREAT together. aj |
