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Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 784
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 6:48 pm: | 
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For all that have seen, used or heard about Windows Vista; what do you think?
I'll give my opinion soon, just got it.
BC
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Starface
Senior Member
Username: Starface
Post Number: 1164
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 8:29 pm: |
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Windows Vista, I haven't use it much but do like the 360° view so far.
I haven't used Windows Vista on any of my computers but have used it on other family members computers.
So from what little I've used of it it's not been so bad, but then again my use is very litte.
STARFAİE
KI4NBE
CEF476
HAM181
CVC014
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13241
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:36 pm: |
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Bc910,
Sorry but I had to edit your Topic Title as you had people confused and they were posting about radio's and antennas.
Hopefully by changing the title you can now get some helpful advice from users of the  Windows Vista Operating System. 
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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808xyl
Intermediate Member
Username: 808xyl
Post Number: 287
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 11:53 pm: |
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Bc910,
Just my own personal experience with Vista since 808 said NO WAY it was going on his computer.
I downloaded and installed the New Windows Vista last saturday on my computer and had major problem's.
I honestly did not have much of a chance to use it as it was incompatible with several programs I have on my computer.
So I had to call our computer man over last saturday afternoon to remove it and restore and re-install all of my programs on my computer as it scrambled several of the business programs and our business invoice billing and tracking program, and several other business programs I had installed.
I went back to XP and NO MORE PROBLEMS.
While it may be good for some people be sure to check and make sure it will work with any and all programs that you have on your computer.
Good Luck.
Shirley
808xyl
CEF#164
CVC#003 
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Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1467
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:36 am: |
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No thanks! I'm still running Win2K and have no plans to purchase another Microsoft operating system. I've always bought my operating systems (even though I didn't have to do so) and I always installed them on more than one computer. All of them mine and for personal use. Starting with XP, Microsoft decided that people like me should pay for each installation of the operating system. I know that there are ways to get around it, and I'm sure there will be for Vista as well, but it bothers me that I'm not allowed to use their product as I see fit to use it for myself. It'll be a long time before Microsoft gets any more money from me. My next OS will probably be BSD or some other FREE Unix variant.
Sorry to hear about your difficulties Shirley, but unfortunately I've never heard anyone have a smooth experience upgrading from one version of Windows to another. Believe it or not, it sounds like things went well for you. Often the machine won't even boot and important data is lost in the effort to get back to before the upgrade attempt. If you really want to try Vista since you've already paid for it, install another hard drive in your machine and then install Vista to that drive. If that goes well, you can then move over what you can after verifying it works. At one time I had several versions of Windows installed on a computer with a boot manager, and it actually worked fairly well. Good luck!
Aack! - Bill the cat
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 722
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 8:53 am: |
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I like Vista so much I am using Xandros version of LInux
Simon
Tech237
KD7IEB
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Yankee
Senior Member
Username: Yankee
Post Number: 1446
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 9:25 am: |
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What with all the most resent problems I've had with my two computers. I don't believe I'll be changing operating systems. I've been working on getting them both working correctly for about two weeks and now have them so-so. One has XP and the other ME.
The one with XP for some unknown reason, I can't get Team Speak to reload on it, So I've had to go to my backup computer to be able to get on the Copper Voice Chat. Such as I'm still able to talk to all my good friends on the CVC again.
Carl CEF-357
CVC-9 HAM-28
Flatlands of Oklahoma
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Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 786
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 9:35 pm: |
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Starface I DO LOVE the 360 view thing it is cool!
Tech808: Thank you, it didn't seem confusing at the time but now that I think about it...
808XYL:
"I downloaded and installed the New Windows Vista last saturday on my computer and had major problem's. " Downloaded? hmmmmm? 
"I honestly did not have much of a chance to use it as it was incompatible with several programs I have on my computer. " Vista is campatible with almosst ALL older programs if it runs on 95, 98, me, 2000, XP, or 2003 server it will run on vista just right click on the "exe" and click "properties" then "compatability" then clcik run "run this program in cobatability mode for" then select the operating system. WORKS REALY WELL!!! After you do it once it will run that way for good 'till you change it.
"So I had to call our computer man over last saturday afternoon to remove it and restore and re-install all of my programs on my computer as it scrambled several of the business programs and our business invoice billing and tracking program, and several other business programs I had installed" If you do the "compatability thing" it should work fine.
Hollowpoint445: I understand, see 808xyl's post "I downloaded and installed the New Windows Vista last saturday on my computer" J/K
Tech237: I'll leave that alone except to say
Now with all that said, I must say, I have had next to NO problems with Vista. After doing some reading before I got it I found that the only thing in my computer that wasn't compatable with Vista was my video card. It actually , just wouldn't do the cool visual things like the 360 thing, so I upgraded my card!
I had NO hardware isuues!
I have had NO software issues!
Vista appears to be running smoother, more reliable and seems to be using less ram (interesting, Vista requires more!)
I do realy like the way it all looks and so far so good on performance! I'll keep ya'll posted in the future.
BC |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 787
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:18 pm: |
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BTW
System specs:
Hardware
AMD athlon64 3000+ (stock 1.8 GHZ, overclocked to 2.35 GHZ RELIABLY!)
Gigabyte K8NS Pro MB
300 GB Maxtor SATA2 HD 300 GB/Sec (I LOVE MY HD!)
1 GB PC3200 ram (I NEED MORE! THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH!)
Geforce5200 w/128 MB ram
on board lan
on board 5.1 surround sound
no modem (who needs one now a days?)
cheap "no-name+ dual layer DVD/CD burner
"no name" floppy drive
450 watt power supply
CoolerMaster case
Coolermaster heatsink
"no name" heat sink fan
Software
MS Windows Vista
MS office 2007
Nero 7 premium
WinRar
TeamSpeak
MS one care
Lavasoft adaware
Spybot search and destroy
and much more!
All running perfectly so far.
BC |
Romstar
New member
Username: Romstar
Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:27 pm: |
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Now, Bc910 is one of the lucky ones.
He isn't alone of course, but he is by far out numbered by the legions of people who either simply can't use Windows Vista, or have so many problems with incompatible software that it doesn't make any sense to try.
Microsoft truely made a mess with this one. It's all eye candy and no real substance. The file system is a joke, and most publishers are scrambling to get patchs and updates out the door to make their products work wih Vista.
If you are at all familiar with standard Microsoft practices it's like dealing with amp manufactures, only in reverse. You buy an amp, and it says 300 watts, and you are lucky to get 200 out of it. Par for the course.
Microsoft says you can use Vista on a 1GHz machine with 512 megs of ram. Need a really good video card though. Don't believe any of it. You will be lucky to see adequate usability at 2.5 GHz, and 1 gig of RAM, not to mention the space it's going to chew up on your hard drive, and to really see what all the eye candy is about, you better have a $300.00+ video card.
I have used Vista since they started the beta program. There are now six different versions of this operating systems, and each of them are hobbled in some way or another.
It is also Microsoft's most expensive system to date, and provides little to NO improvement in usability or functionality. To be completely honest there isn't a darn thing in Vista that couldn't have been applied to XP in a new service pack.
If you are buying a new computer, you are almost stuck with it, as many retailers are not even offering XP as an option. In any other circumstance, spare yourself the pain and headache for at least a year while Microcrap get's the bugs worked out of this one. Believe me, it will take them a while.
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Captian_radio
Intermediate Member
Username: Captian_radio
Post Number: 161
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 10:27 am: |
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In my town there is a microsoft tech support company that employs several hundred people who deal with all microsoft systems, I heard through the grape vine that they are going to pull all tech support for vista off line due to the number of problems therefore putting quite a lot of people out of work!! My son has a friend who does tech support for vista and he has stated that there are in deed many problems with vista and he strongly recommends using the XP os as it is much more reliable.
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Edsmith
New member
Username: Edsmith
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2007 - 1:00 pm: |
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As I see it,it is just another way for b.gates to add a few more billion to his bank account.I don't think that a lot of my old programs would work on it,new software time,no thanks.if it ain't broke,don't fix it. |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 788
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 02, 2007 - 9:35 pm: |
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Vista, a "rush job"?
This darn thing has been in beta longer than I can remember (not really but for YEARS)
If it were a rush job it would have come out when RC1 was released (vista beta 1 (although there were betas before that)) or at least RC2 but instead, YEARS later, YEARS after the first beta testing began. AND I MEAN YEARS! They finally release it, and no one likes it! Hey that is Microsofts fault too bad for them, BUT
Think about this...
If you get a good car would you post your oppinion, and try to get ppl. to buy it 'couse it's SO good?
Or
Are you more likely to complain as often as possible, try to stop ppl. from buying and cuss and curse a bad car?
What I am trying to say is, already hundreds of thousands of ppl. have Vista and use it, yet only hundreds maybe are complaining. People that have bad experiences tend to speak out more than the ones that have good ones. All the hundreds of thousands of ppl. who aren't having any issues aren't posting or saying anything because there is nothing for them to say. They turn it on, it looks good, it works good, then they turn it off...
There has been a terrible collective harsh feelings towards MS lately, part of this is due to years and years and years of hastily put together, crud software. The other part is (in my opinion) just plain jealosy. Bill Gates is (arguably) the richest man in the country, if not the world and when you get that rich and power full ppl. automatically feel you must be doing something shady to have gotten there, and that you must be shady still! What ever you would like to believe about MS and BG and weather or not you like Vista, XP, ME, 2000, 98, 95, 3.1, 3.0, 2.5, 2.0, 1.0, dos, linux, unix, Mac, KayPro, Apple (not the same as mac, come on), OR ANY THING ELSE. You can not tell me that even if MS came out with the best, ground breaking do all and end all OS that there would still not be ppl. who couldn't stand it, if nothing else than just because they don't like MS!
BTW I have used EVERY SINGLE ONE of the for-mentioned os's, worked for multiple isp's, a few computer companies, an industrial networking IT company, ran 2 web design companies one of which I also did logos, and one web hosting company, so, yeah I know what I'm talking about tooo.
As far as EVERY thing else goes...
So far so good on Vista!
I did have some virus issues BTW. NOT because of security holes or any thing else I just d/led the wrong thing and clicked before I thought But now it's fixed and running great still!
BC |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 789
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 9:10 am: |
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I havn't had any problems with 3rd party software yet! Just use compatability mode.
Actually this all reminds me a lot of the transition from 98/me to XP hmmm?
BC |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 735
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 9:27 am: |
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What does Vista REALLY do that is needed?? Does it make coffee, which XP cannot do? Does it warn you ahead of schedule of band openings (hey with the right program running so can XP).
IT can, with the right software/harware actually have your coffee and toast made for you in the morning, but does anyone in their right mind want their house run by Bill Gates Empire??
To be blunt Vista amounts to nothing more than a bug infested prettied up (read resource wasting) version of XP
As a tech support specialist at the time I can truthfully tell you that their was a lot more problems with going form 98 to XP than most of you would realise. XP release was delayed twice to patch major problems and even then the SP1 was relased 6 months prior to XP.
As an side for you I run a 1G P4 with XP (512MB RAM) and a 350MHz P2 (128MB RAM)running Linux, both feed into thecable modem via a Linksys router. I use both to access Copper forum regularly. This morning I borught both pcs online, manually typed Coppers address into both machines and hit Enter simultaneuously. And yes the supposedly slower Linux machine had the site up a good 3 seconds before the Windoze PC. Wonder how much slower, with all the bells and whistles it forces you to use Vista would have been??
Simon
Tech237
KD7IEB
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Igniter2
New member
Username: Igniter2
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 2:04 pm: |
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If you have a MAC and the software do not work, who do you blame? Microsoft, because the software producer fail to make it available for the MAC. I don't think so. For those of us that like using Vista is not over concerned because in time the software company will catch up. |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 790
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 6:32 pm: |
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"System specs:
Hardware
AMD athlon64 3000+ (stock 1.8 GHZ, overclocked to 2.35 GHZ RELIABLY!)
Gigabyte K8NS Pro MB
300 GB Maxtor SATA2 HD 300 GB/Sec (I LOVE MY HD!)
1 GB PC3200 ram (I NEED MORE! THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH!)
Geforce5200 w/128 MB ram
on board lan
on board 5.1 surround sound
no modem (who needs one now a days?)
cheap "no-name+ dual layer DVD/CD burner
"no name" floppy drive
450 watt power supply
CoolerMaster case
Coolermaster heatsink
"no name" heat sink fan"
Now my machine is by far the fastest, bestest machine on the planet, but I can say, with 100% certainty that my performance IMPROVED after installing Vista. The new file system is FAR better than FAT32 or NTFS.
"As a tech support specialist at the time I can truthfully tell you that their was a lot more problems with going form 98 to XP than most of you would realise. XP release was delayed twice to patch major problems and even then the SP1 was relased 6 months prior to XP."
YES, that is what I was trying to say earlier! the transition to XP was WORSE than to Vista, by FAR!!! There ARE known bugs with Vista but it is much easier to load and use than XP was orriginaly.
As far as Linux VS MS VS Mac VS whatever...
I personaly LOVE MAC!!!! I have tons of respect for the product they put out, the quality of theier hardware and the quality of their OS's TIGER IS GRRRRREAT!!! That said I don't like the actual "interface" OSX uses, I just don't like the way it works. Couple that with the lack of software and BOOM! I'm on a PC!
Linux, Linux, Linux....
Linux is open soarce which means EVERY ONE has had their hands in it! THIS IS A GOOOD THING! Development is not just stuck with a few Microsoft geeks who decide they want it a certain way then build it (poorly) instead the development lies in the hands of millions of ppl. who do it to improve the os, not just to get a paycheck. This has made Linux more stable, more secure and in some cases better looking than XP, Vista or OSX
BUT...
Again you have the software compatability issue, not much is made for Linux and a lot of 3rd party hardware isn't supported either, so Vista here I come!
I know that both Linux and Mac can run pc emulators to run all the software I want but the proccess is slow and annoying, so nope! It's Vista for me! Not the best OS by far, but I would say, the best one from MS!
BC |
Insider
Intermediate Member
Username: Insider
Post Number: 240
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 1:54 pm: |
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Does Vista allow the classic look like XP does. The 360 view looks kind of neat, similiar to Mac OSX's expose (can't get the accent mark on the e). However, I find glancing down at the task bar much quicker since I only run a few apps.
Actually, it's the candy colors and effects that in part made me switch from Mac to PC. That and the price to hardware performance ratio wasn't the bargain it used to be. Though I still have a soft spot for Apple. I wonder how long before Apple updates Boot Camp to run Vista. |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 791
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 5:46 pm: |
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I never did understand Apple...
Is that a NEW OS? or just an update from Tiger?
I just don't get why they would call it OSX (OS 10) still if it were not basically an "update" How many OSX's have there been now, like 4 I think? So shouldn't this new one just be called OSXV?
Whatever...
Interested to see it tho
BC |
Splbass17
Member
Username: Splbass17
Post Number: 56
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 6:31 pm: |
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I got it for free when I purchased my laptop for school. I sold Vista on ebay for a couple hundred. Not bad |
Hollowpoint445
Senior Member
Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 1479
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 13, 2007 - 8:26 pm: |
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What did you install instead Splbass17?
Aack! - Bill the cat
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Insider
Intermediate Member
Username: Insider
Post Number: 241
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 6:36 pm: |
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Hmm, looking at those screen grabs, it looks as if Microsoft 'borrowed' some elements from the various linux desktops that are out their.
For Bc910: Apple can still get away with calling OS X (10) because all of their upgrades simply add another decimal point to the their name i.e. OS 10.5.1. If they really want to, they can do this for ever. I can see in the year 2525 OS 10.1000000.55000.100. |
Skunkweed
Junior Member
Username: Skunkweed
Post Number: 17
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 11:37 pm: |
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I tried this, bells and whistles in my opinion.
Linux with Windows 98 as secondary OS is far enough for my needs. |
Train_man
New member
Username: Train_man
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 2:06 pm: |
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Until I'm forced to install Vista, I will stay with XP. |
Znut
Advanced Member
Username: Znut
Post Number: 745
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:26 pm: |
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I like XP pro and Ubuntu 7 linux. No Vista for me right now. However, it seems ok and more stuff will be compatible as time progresses. I was patient with 98, 2000 and XP. It turned out that each one was an improvement over the last since 3.1. I was NOT patient with ME. It was a bigger piece of junk than the first release of 98.
By the way, if you folks have an extra box laying around with a bios not more than 3 or 4 years old try Ubuntu. It has a graphic interface like , well Vista or Mac, also you don't need $$$ yet to do it. |
Train_man
New member
Username: Train_man
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 2:15 am: |
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I have Ubuntu downloaded to my hard drive somewhere,
just need to transfer it to a disk and install it. Been busy and haven't had the time. Hope to get to it this winter when work slows down. I'm anxious to try it.
Move along. Nothing to see here.........
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707
Intermediate Member
Username: 707
Post Number: 104
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 2:11 pm: |
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I have Vista running on the following with no problems:
Vista Business on a HP D530, P4 2.66GHz, 1 GB RAM, 2 x 60 GB HD, 256 MB DVI video, Bluetooth
Vista Ultimate on a AMD 64 3000+,
1 GB ram,
300 GB HD,
ATI x700 PRO video,
Silverstone HTPC case,
external 24 bit Soundblaster USB audio,
2 Hauppage PCI TV tuners,
1 Hauppage USB ATSC HD tuner,
Coding Technologies DWT USB HF DRM receiver,
2 Icom PCR-100 receivers,
NoName USB audio dongle
NoName Bluetooth dongle.
That particular machine is actually an upgrade from XP MCE 2005 to Vista Ultimate, not a fresh install.
last but not least..
24" iMac, Intel Core 2 T7600 2.33 GHz, 3 GB RAM, 750 GB HD running OSX and Vista Enterprise with Bootcamp, and XP PRO in Parallels. Everything works, including Bluetooth A2DP, keyboards, mice, wireless networking, etc.
All the machines run a variety of apps including the full suite of Office XP or 2007, Sonic, Nero, MX Studio, Adobe Audition and whatever else I throw at them.
I'll refrain from the typical Open Source vs. Microsoft vs. Apple discussion, since that is without fail a waste of time and is like comparing apples, oranges and telephone poles..
Let it suffice that if Microsoft only had to support it's own branded hardware like Apple does, and if Linux could actually be universally useful for anything but servers and learning to type, the world would be a better place.
That said, from my experience, Vista runs fastest on the iMac. It screams at playing America's Army 2.82. I haven't tried it on a really monster PC.
I have to admit I am a software gadget addict, and have literally gigabytes of different freeware applications to do all sorts of things from radio signal processing to graphics and games with very few conflicts or problems. |
Willy
New member
Username: Willy
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:26 pm: |
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I have win vista preminum IT STINKS TO NO END!!!!!!
would rather have XP PRO
I have the CD with Linux and win vista will not let me load it.
I wish that I had the knowledge of what I know from experience before I got win vista |
Moderator1516
Moderator
Username: Moderator1516
Post Number: 550
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 7:01 pm: |
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i recently bought an e machine with windows vista
basic ,and it is the biggest piece of junk to come down the road, bill gates needs to do his job over wont accept a lot of the old programs
including my all in one printer and scanner,cant down load a lot of my pictures
moderator1516
cef 139
cvc 12
ham 147-ki4kxl
aka:skilletlicker
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Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 284
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 2:09 pm: |
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jeesh! well since im blissfully ignorant of most things computer, and just bought a new Acer Aspire 4520 to make up for old modem blasted Dell, for what im able to do and understand, i like it fine.it is home premium if that makes a difference. aj |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 924
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:07 am: |
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"and if Linux could actually be universally useful for anything but servers and learning to type, the world would be a better place. "
Actually Linux can do a lot more than that - I run Word Processing (yes can read/write Word , pdf and doc files),Spreadsheets,accounting for small business, email, radio applications (PSK31, Packet, SSTV etc), manipulate graphics with programs as good as or better than any I have seen on a Windoze machine,Network to and swap files with my wifes XP pc, play games, music and even write programs ( in C, Compiled basic and Cobol). It is just a matter of looking around in the net and finding the FREE (yes most Linux software is free) that will do the task you are looking for.
Simon
Tech237
N7AUS
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Caledonia
Member
Username: Caledonia
Post Number: 70
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 10:07 am: |
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I have Vista running on my Home Theater PC (Dell XPS 410--Q6600 2.4GHZ, 4GB Ram, nVidia GeForce 8600 GT dual DVI, Vista Home Premium), and on my son's new Inspiron 531 which has 2GB Ram and the same Nvidia 8600GT graphics card, running Vista Home Basic.
Both of these boxes are running GREAT, doing everything expected of them. We've only had one or two program compatibility issues with each one, and these were easily solved with equivalent programs that are available.
On my LAN, I have boxes running XP Pro, XP Home, XP MCE, Windows 98, and now these 2 new Vista boxes, all sharing an ADSL Internet connection and a network printer, and they all play nicely!
With Vista, you must have the hardware to support it. If you do, it is easy to learn, and the Aero theme is kind of cool.
I was worried about Vista after hearing all the horror stories, but it has been great for me. |
Geekster
Intermediate Member
Username: Geekster
Post Number: 191
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 2:21 pm: |
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Vista is not a bad system if you have at least 1GB of ram and at least a 2GHz processor. There are a few programs that are not compatible with Vista.
I am running Vista Business. |
Hyperno_1979
Advanced Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 575
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 - 6:52 am: |
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I thought about an upgrade to Vista so i went to several computer shops to put my toe in the water. These were all proper shops not department stores and all told me that Vista could cause a lot of issues in the upgrade from XP. Bottom line was to get a new computer with Vista installed. Ok now to win lotto and i'll be all sweet....lol.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
NOT allowed to hold a passport....
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Sandbagger106
Intermediate Member
Username: Sandbagger106
Post Number: 106
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:58 am: |
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I received a Dell catalog 3-13-08 and notice that on most computers they have in the catalog you are given a choice of OS, between Vista or XP. Perhaps because the Vista OS is a problem for so many people? I thought Microsoft likes to force the public into there newest OS. cheers, sb106. |
Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 500
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 7:10 pm: |
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in comment to SB106's post,Dell started offering XP when sales sagged due to Vista having too many problems with its initial release.There have been many patches issued to clean it up.Dell also offers Linux (Ubuntu)on certain systems.I was also told by a local computer shop they were not allowed by Microsoft to sell XP oem and upgrades after 2-29-08.just checked while writing this and a popular online dealer still has all versions of XP available although it cost much more than Vista operating systems.
tech291
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Olde_timer_669
Junior Member
Username: Olde_timer_669
Post Number: 25
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 8:34 pm: |
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I recently bought a new computer with Vista on it. My wife and son seem to like it just fine but I don't think much of it.I know we went through all these Hardware and software issues when XP came out but who would of thought we would be doing it again so soon. All my other home computers and my work computers are all XP so I am wishing now I would have bought this last one with XP as well. I may still change it.
Ron
Olde Timer 669
CEF 940
Illinois
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Ghost
Junior Member
Username: Ghost
Post Number: 11
Registered: 4-2008
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Hi:
Vista is great!
peobably the easiest windows ever, thats only my opinion.
Of coures you will need to have at least 2gb mem.for it to work eff. Regards Brad.
My dog died so my knife is my best friend!
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James_barrow
New member
Username: James_barrow
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 6:57 pm: |
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The reason microsoft is having so many probs with vista is there was a project that got leaked to the public they had called long horn well when it got leaked they scrapped it cut a portion of the source code and developed vista and they did not tie up the lose ends in the source code or so thats what ive herd from sev people but id have to agree vista is worthless, I wouldent dare use it id go to linux ubuntu before id use another microsoft operating system |
Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 1036
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2008 - 5:43 pm: |
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James - so whats Microssoft's excuse for all the other versions of Windows that have had massive problems, and need bug fixes released before ther OS was officially released??
Simon
Tech237
N7AUS
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James_barrow
New member
Username: James_barrow
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008 - 11:43 am: |
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hey i have no idea i just heard that through the grape vine from some one that works on comps and supposedly has a inside hand at Microsoft now weather it true or not idk i do know and u can Google this and see for your self, they are coming out with a system and gonna scrap vista just like they did with the milineum and came out with xp |
Topten
Intermediate Member
Username: Topten
Post Number: 231
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 11:44 pm: |
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Windows Vista Tip. This is by far the best tip I have run across. Did you know that if you have a dual core or more cpu that Vista by default boots up using only one cpu? This is one of the reasons Vista takes so long to boot up & here's how to fix it: To force Vista to use all processors during the startup process: Right click on the 'start' menu and type 'msconfig.' Hit Enter. Go to the 'boot' tab and click 'advanced options.' Place a check next to the 'number of processors:' option and change the dropdown box to reflect the number of discrete processor cores in your computer. Hit 'ok' to save. By doing this you should see a substantial increase in boot speed. This will not work for single core cpu's or macs running vista. Enjoy! |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4817
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 14, 2008 - 6:29 am: |
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I just installed VISTA it is a HOG ......
It rates my computer @ 3.2 out of 10
My Machine is ....
Dualcore AMD @ 2.51 each, 2gig ram, 500 Meg video card and a 240gig SATA 300 HD ....
On 6 since 66
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4824
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 19, 2008 - 9:12 pm: |
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UPGRADED .... 3.0 gig ram and Nvida 8600 ( 512 meg ram ) card now it likes it .....
On 6 since 66
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Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 2200
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 6:08 pm: |
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I recently (2 months ago) purchased a new computer with Vista already installed. Been running great for my wife and I.
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4831
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:04 pm: |
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I built this one for VISTA but ran XP at first.
VISTA is touchy ...
On 6 since 66
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Chameleon
New member
Username: Chameleon
Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 31, 2008 - 6:50 pm: |
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Vista has been fine for me. Using it for a year now. Remember when XP came out everyone was talking about how terrible it was? I have no problem running Vista. |
Moderator1516
Moderator
Username: Moderator1516
Post Number: 1282
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 8:25 am: |
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microsoft is coming out with a new vesion
of windows called windows 7,dont know when
it will be released.
moderator1516
cef#0139/cvc#0012
ham#0147-ki4kxl
aka:skilletlicker
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4860
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 4:32 pm: |
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win 7 is 2010
On 6 since 66
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 1081
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 7:43 pm: |
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Windows 7 in 2010. Does that mean they'll start releasing bug fixes, for it, in time for Christmas 08??
Simon
Tech237
N7AUS
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4861
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 8:14 pm: |
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yep
On 6 since 66
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Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 795
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 12:26 am: |
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Bruce;
"It rates my computer @ 3.2 out of 10 "
It actually rates out of 6. Don't know why, but it does. Actually 5.9 is the highest, but 6 is easier to say. So 3.2 aint bad! Mine is a 5.4.
The biggest things Vista looks for in it's scoring is speed, not the quantity of something. IE 1TB slow hard drive vs. 500gb FAST hard drive, the 500GB wins!
Here's how to improve your score;
Get a fast hard drive, better yet get 2 or 4 and raid 'em!
Get the fastest ram your mother board will support (PC6400/800mhz for me)
Get the fastest/best video card you can buy! My 8600GT works well, but I would have a 5.9 on video if I had an 8800 or above.
And BTW, I CANT BELIEVE this thread is still active!!! I havent even checked the Copper forum in a WHILE!!! :P |
Bc910
Advanced Member
Username: Bc910
Post Number: 796
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 12:39 am: |
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New system specs by the way:
Hardware
AMD athlon64 5000+ (stock 2.6 GHZ, over clocked to 2.8 GHZ RELIABLY!)
Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S4 MB
2x300 GB Maxtor SATA2 HD 300 GB/Sec in raid0
3 GB PC6400 ram (I NEED MORE! THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH!)
Geforce8600GT w/256 MB ram
on board lanx2
on board 5.1 surround sound
no modem (who needs one now a days?)
Sony dual layer DVD/CD burner
Kreon flashed Toshiba DVD rom (if you don't know what this is, dont worry about it )
650 watt power supply
Antek case
Coolermaster heatsink
"no name" heat sink fan
Software
MS Windows Vista Ultimate
MS office 2007
Nero 7 premium
WinRar
TeamSpeak
MS one care
Lavasoft adaware
Spybot search and destroy
and much MUCH more!
Vista rating:
Processor 5.4
Memory 5.9
Graphics 5.9
Gaming graphics 5.6
Primary hard disk 5.9
Since the vista score goes off the lowest score, I've got a 5.4!
BTW I LOVE AMD, but the equivilant Intel chip gets a 5.9! Right now AMD just aint cuttin' it.
All running perfectly so far.
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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 4862
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 6:11 am: |
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Your machine and mine are very close ....I have a 512 meg card otherwise they are almost the same ....
Your right VISTA loves speed and lots of board and video ram ....
This is why so many are having problems with it.
Anyone who tries it on a 1.0 ghz machine with 1 gig of ram finds out fast just how much of a computer it takes ....
And now windows 7 ...... GASP !
On 6 since 66
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Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 328
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 1:50 pm: |
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and now back 1 year later, and i think it is a terrible piece of irritating junk that gets the blame for EVERY problem on my box, which is many.
ive been told i need to defrag it but i dont know how, so vista gets sworn at every day.
like the acer, but not vista. am currently looking for a dell laptop w/windows xp only to replace it.
this thing makes me MENTAL, about to use a 12 gauge to defrag this thing for good!! aj |
Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 329
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 1:51 pm: |
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so, how do i defrag it correctly? aj |
Jjk9
Junior Member
Username: Jjk9
Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 6:04 pm: |
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Go into Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defrag. It will analyze the drive(s) first to see if a "defrag" is needed; this is relatively quick; the Defrag operation itself can take from 30 min to over 8+hours depending on the state of the drive. It is a safe procedure and one that really should be done once or twice a year regardless of the OS you are running. It should speed things up a bit for you when finished. Joe K |
Applejack
Intermediate Member
Username: Applejack
Post Number: 330
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 2:05 pm: |
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oh wow! thats great! thanks, i wish i would have asked that 6 months ago. this thing is only used for email and internet and has been getting pokier and pokier. i give it a try.
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