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Aircop12
Junior Member Username: Aircop12
Post Number: 41 Registered: 5-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Does anybody have one of these rigs and how well do they work. I have heard that they are excellent radios,any help would be appreciated. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2688 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2006 - 2:48 pm: |
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the ONLY one i've SEEN thus far is STILL working flawlessly(shame we have to qualify these things that way, but...). from a VERY BRIEF interaction with it, i'd rate it to the 'high side of average'. whenever the SSB version arrives, i'll look at it a bit more closely. the AM version showed enough promise for me to say that. the apparent inability of stryker to form a business partnership with copper is disheartening...depending on how you read into that. the lack of posting regarding stryker here, by end users as well as stryker's people, also raises questions. elsewhere, stryker started off with a bang, but seems to have cooled. |
Midwess
Junior Member Username: Midwess
Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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Well, As for the Styker radio...I have purchased one back in Dec'05, and can say it has performed simply perfect. I have had many other "top-notch" radio's only to find out that they have terrible IMD, noise blankers that do not work, no backlighting, useless features and poor transmit audio; just to name a few. Again, I bought one of these because I was tired of buying what was supposed to be the "best on the market" only to find out; they werent. For me, I enjoy the radio and when the ssb model comes out I look forward to seeing that model work as it should. Again my comments, yours most likey will be different! :-) |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 13 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 11:06 pm: |
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Patzerozero, Copper received some radios late last week. I'm not sure when they will be posted on their website. We wish them the best of luck |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9956 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:55 am: |
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Copper Forum Member's, Copper Electronic's now has the STRYKER SR440 HP in stock and ready to ship. The Part # is: S70-05000 With a LOW Price of: $194.99 It has not been posted as yet to view but should be shortly. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2831 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 3:15 pm: |
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OK shawn. now the ball is rolling . i do hope this radio performs as was originally hyped-i'd love to see a 'new' radio that is an improvement over much of what is currently available. i personally have no desire for an AM/FM only radio, so, how are you guys coming along with an SSB version? THAT is what I really wanna see |
Therealporkchop
Advanced Member Username: Therealporkchop
Post Number: 636 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 5:55 pm: |
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Have you rung it out yet Lon? I've been looking at them, I just think the name is kinda cheesey. But I've been wondering what kind of power they have. Wondering what the inside looks like and what can be done to it. I'm feeling the Galaxy inside thing. |
Goat373
Intermediate Member Username: Goat373
Post Number: 217 Registered: 3-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 6:05 pm: |
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ditto pat |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9960 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 6:11 pm: |
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Therealporkchop, Sorry, but no I have not seen or used one of the Updated STRYKER SR-440HP radio's yet. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Easyturtle
New member Username: Easyturtle
Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:43 pm: |
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Been running one for about a week now. Good strong radio. Love the roger beep along with the echo. Very similar to a magnum s-6 without the frequecy counter. Great radio and you cant beat the price! |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1558 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:48 pm: |
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something interesting i just noticed while looking over the inside pics of the stryker. the parts are very spread out and the board has labels for a bunch of other parts, as if this board is, was, or will be used for another variation on this model. doesnt look to be the ranger/galaxy board, no mirror board, and the tuning coils are in different locations. anyone know where this board design came from? if its an original, it would seem that they have big plans for that PC board. interesting!!! matt |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:56 pm: |
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Therealporkchop, To each his own on the name, but I like it The radio when tuned properly will peak at 60-65 watts. I've seen those reading on a Bird 4391 RF POWER ANALYST. Those are honest numbers, I'm not here to mislead anyone. If anyone has questions please feel free to ask, I'm here to help. Thank you |
Therealporkchop
Advanced Member Username: Therealporkchop
Post Number: 643 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 6:16 pm: |
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I didn't mean to offend anyone. Any chance of you posting pics of the inside of this radio? 60-65 watts? For under 200 bucks? That sounds like one heck of a deal! How well does it receive and transmit? How does it sound? Anything special inside that sets it apart from the other radios like Galaxy and Connex etc? |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1566 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 6:32 pm: |
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shawn, whats up with all the extra part markings on the PC board? im just curious if this is an indicator of things to come, or a leave over from whatever this board used to be used in? honestly curious here, matt |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Porkchop, Don't worry I don't think anyone was offended. I'll post some pictures in the near future of the radio with full details. Kid_vicious, I'm not sure where you're looking on the board inside the radio, but I would guess it's the rear portion. The reason there are blank spots is because of the rear PA board. The rear PA board basically uses the same components that are from the blank spots, but it's configured to work with a flange mount transistor. There are changes, but that's the easiest way to describe without making this post to long. |
Easyturtle
New member Username: Easyturtle
Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:10 am: |
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The board is very similar to the old northpoints. I have put mine on a meter and it is reading 60watts top end. Power meter set about half way dead keys 2 watts swing around 50 watts. The radio is fairly easy to peak, two adjustable screws, and bam your radio is set to go. The radio has good reception and very loud, so far I am pleased with the radio. |
Hyperno_1979
Junior Member Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 8:06 am: |
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I'm on Pat's team....like to see 200w up the stick, ssb with no drift, ala Grant, FT7 etc, NO power mic, NO echo or other BS toys. Just a straight up head fryer of a radio that does the job out of the box without having to spend even more money to get on song. And an FT 747 mod....open top cover..flick switch...put cover back...and you're away on full coverage....thank ya mother for the rabbits. It's so easy it's ridiculous. Build it and my Mrs will buy it(she loves me). Cheers and Beers, Bob CEF703 |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 18 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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Easyturtle, The board is similar to the EPT3600 series board, but with various changes. There are a total of four coils on the rear pa board. Gently spreading L51 & L52 with your finger, please DO NOT use a pliers or similar tool. We've received radios back for warranty repair where a shop trashed the board because they were using the wrong method and way to much force. These two adjustments along with VR14 (AM Mod) will yield the best gains. When adjusting the coils you obviously will need a peak reading watt meter. Set the AM carrier at 10 watts on high power. If you have any questions please let me know. Thank you |
Yankee
Senior Member Username: Yankee
Post Number: 1188 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 2:16 pm: |
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OK, I'm not trying to offend anyone with my personal opinion of the new Stryker radios. I've looked at the inside pictures, seems to have way to many empty holes. Part lay out is very good and solder work is very clean. Posted price seems a little over priced for an AM/FM only radio, even with the amount of output power the radio is rated at. Of course the roger beep is not a really needed feature. The power output of the radio doesn't mean a lot. Because with any citizens band type radio, the time told story of save the radio and let an RF amplifier of choice do the output power comes to mind. Over all the new AM/FM Strykers look to be a good marketing product, nice looking radio and should sell well to the AM/FM only market. This is just MHO, and 2 cents worth. |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:00 pm: |
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Yankee, The empty component holes do not have any affect on performance. This is very common when you are using a board that will work on SSB as well. The SR-440HP doesn't offer SSB, so there is no need to pay for the components when they will not even be used. The SR-440HP pricing is right in line with any other radios that offer similar features. Thank you |
Therealporkchop
Advanced Member Username: Therealporkchop
Post Number: 657 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 12:36 am: |
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I know a lot of guys would be happy to see a radio doing 50-60 watts PEP by itself. Especially the ones who drive for companies that forbid linear amps in their trucks. So if they want extra power, what other choice would there be? They'd have to buy a strong radio out of the box or sneak a amp. You know what would happen if they got caught. So what is inside it that gives it this 60 watts? Spreading coils? Aren't they in there to filter harmonics? Does spreading these actually increase the power or just add harmonics that fool most wattmeters? Just a question. |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2852 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:07 am: |
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i hope the similarity to the ept3600 board ends with foil on 1 side & parts on the other. |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 3:59 pm: |
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The main reason you see more power out of the Stryker is our choice for the final transistor. It's capable of greater output levels without getting excessively hot. From my experience adjusting L51 & L52 does not create excessive harmonics. I will check with our warranty support center. I know for a fact that they do see peak power of 60-65 watts. They use the analog version of the Bird 43 and I use the digital. They also use an HP service monitor and can compare the readings. There are also several respected techs that use a computer program called http://www.wavenode.com/ and they're also getting the same peak numbers. In addition they've viewed the radio on a spectrum analyzer to verify that the power isn't simply harmonics. Please let me know if you have any other questions |
Therealporkchop
Advanced Member Username: Therealporkchop
Post Number: 666 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 6:10 pm: |
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Well I just meant I've arguements for and against that. I am unsure myself cause I usually see increases in power by mashing a round together. Yeah...weird I know... I've bought just about all the other radios or atleast owned them whether they were given to me or not. So I'll probably buy one of these too. |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1578 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 3:19 am: |
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as far as ive ever heard, spreading the coils just defeats the purpose of them being there, as when they are not shaped like a coil, they do not filter like they are supposed to. isnt this considered to be a "cheap and dirty" mod to fool the 'ol power meter into seeing a coulple of extra watts? i wont be doing it to ANY of my radios. shawn, i respect the fact that you are here to give honest answers and not to sell radios, and that being the case; im hoping that we can get some of those honest answers. if you'll remember; back when this section of the forum first appeared, there were many requests for info about the board design, and the origin of the deisgn. i think you know what we are asking about; we want to know if this radio is yet another variation on the same theme or did someone actually design a new board. these questions were never answered with any certainty. at last, we are now getting somewhere, but i fear that somewhere is galaxy land. so the board is "based" on the EPT3600 series? just another variation on the same theme i would say. THAT is why i was asking about the extra component markings on the PC board. i am not speaking about the PA section; i understand whats going on there. i am referring to smack dab in the center of the radio, in the area of the crystal. its either an original board, with markings for the SSB chassis that will follow, or a new variation on the same old theme. i believe it to be the latter. please enlighten us as to how this board is different and/or better than a galaxy chassis. thanks for your time, we appreciate it, matt |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 2:40 pm: |
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Matt, That's quite the post you've written. I'm here to give honest answers and I ALWAYS have. I don't have a Stryker in front of me (it's Sunday and I'm at home) one of the parts missing from the center section of the board is VR7, which controls the SSB CARRIER BALANCE, something that is clearly not needed on an AM radio. If you look at the topside of the board there are some SMD parts placed there instead. That eliminates the need for some of the other components that appear to be missing and causing so much controversy. This board is similar, but not the same to the 3600 series boards. We have really improved the transmission audio quality and many other features. Those that have owned and used an SR-440HP that has been properly tuned are usually very happy with the performance. I do not recall the previous post you are referring to. We are very busy and cannot stay on top of every single post that takes place on this forum. For that I'm sorry! Now in regards to what is being used on the SSB radio, you will be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not going to speculate any further. Now if you look on CB tricks under transmit alignment there are is usually a list of coils to adjust titled "RF Amp Chain" that is simply what we were alluding to. Some wattmeters are more susceptible to reading harmonics. The Bird line of meters is usually less likely to do so. As stated before radios peaking at 65 watts have been viewed on a spectrum analyzer and that will defiantly show the purity of the transmitted signal. |
Shawn
Junior Member Username: Shawn
Post Number: 22 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 11:04 pm: |
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Kid_vicious, By all means align the radio in a manner that you are comfortable with. As long as you're happy, we're happy! Thank you |
Kid_vicious
Senior Member Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 1594 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:39 am: |
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ok!!! thanks for the quick and informative response. For me to consider buying a new radio, its got to outperform the one i currently use. thats a tall order. you see, there seems to be a certain "sect" of us on this forum and others that pay more attention to the recievers performance than the transmitters. what we in this "sect" are concerned about is what has been done to improve upon the receivers design. that is the topic that we have not really had any closure with. please dont worry about being too technical here. im sure we can make sense of the jargon. i understand that this may be a secret, and i respect that. i think we all would appreciate it if you were to say, "we've improved the receiver, but i cant tell you how. its a trade secret." i am not trying to be accusatory, i actually really enjoy having you here to talk to. i just wanted to give you some understanding of where we are coming from with our questions. thanks for your time, we know its valuable. and if no one has said it to you yet: thank you so much for putting your efforts into creating a new radio. we sure need new blood around here. matt |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 10009 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 12:05 am: |
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Moderator Note! This is the: Manufacturers Questions » Stryker Area. Please keep your Question's and Comment's limited to the STRYKER RADIO's. If you wish to talk about other manufacturer's or radio's or CB's past or present please start another topic in another area of the forum. This area was not created for Shawn to discuss or talk about new or old CB's or Other Manufacturer's products of the past or present. Thank You, in advance for helping to keep your Question's and Comment's related to the STRYKER line of product's only. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9CEF CVC#2 |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3625 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:07 pm: |
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i have been the proud() owner of my very own stryker sr440hp for roughly 2 weeks now. after carefully examining it and its quaint little idiosynchrosies for a while now, i have come to the conclusion that it needs something done to it. if i get a chance this weekend, i'll be putting it under the wheels of my durango. shoulda put the money towards another magnum....xl....3500....food. |
Chronic
Junior Member Username: Chronic
Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 9:48 pm: |
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That is a shame Patzerozero. What's your complaint? |
Patzerozero
Senior Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3626 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 9:59 am: |
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this one is just too much galaxy dx66 for my blood. it has little if any ACR, frontend overload happens on S9 signals, the noise blanker switch seems to be there to fill in the space on the front of the radio, it bleeds 800kHz the same distance my XL bleeds 1 or 2 channels, it DESTROYS my own tv at less then 20 watts, while my ar3500 doesn't do anywhere near that bad at 150. it was bought to replace its sister radio, which shook to pieces in a 22 wheel dump truck in about 15 months. while that radio seemed to work just fine, it started 'cutting out' xmit & rcv, requiring a whack to its cover to get it to work. inside inspection revealed obvious cold solder joints & peeled traces. $100 for a uniden 78 + an expo kit would've been a much better, & less expensive choice. |
Gtr86
New member Username: Gtr86
Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 6:44 pm: |
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After visiting a web site with information and tuning we are only getting 30 watts, if we drop down to 25MHZ we get 60 watts, any help? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15564 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 7:01 pm: |
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Gtr86, Sorry but Shawn/Stryker Radios has not logged in to answer any Questions on his radio's / products since: November 24th, 2006. Username: Shawn Full Name: Shawn Adams E-mail Address: support@strykerradios.com Last Logged In: November 24, 2006 Registered: January 12, 2006 Total Posts: 30 Status: Junior Member
Lon~Tech808 CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002 Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Gtr86
New member Username: Gtr86
Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 3:27 pm: |
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OK, I was trying to get more info on these radio, the board looks like a 3600 but did not know if the popular mods will work on it to get it do do the boxed wattage, will have to locate their number and call Shawn? |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 15571 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 5:17 pm: |
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Gtr86, Shawns contact information is listed in the Topic Titled: Copper Talk » Manufacturers Questions » Stryker » Contacting Stryker Radios Lon~Tech808 CEF#0808/HAM#001/CVC#0002 Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Gtr86
New member Username: Gtr86
Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 9:20 pm: |
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Thanks Tech808, I will work on it, 73's |