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Wolverine
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 1994 ford Taurus with a 115 amp alternator and a 1000cca battery. I plan on keeping the electrical system strictly stock. No alternator upgrades etc. My set-up is a uniden 78 ltw, wilson 5000 center-load on a 3-pad mag-mount,
and a Boomer 400 amp wired to the battery with 10 guage wire. Have I reached my limit? I was thinking trying out an X-Force X-400, Magna-force 400 or maybe some type of Davemade or Joker amp. Any Tips would be most appreciated. And as I stated above, I don't want to tax my current amp draw. Thanks in advance.
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Tech671
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suggest not running anything larger than an amp with (4) 2879 transistors. The amperage draw will stay below 70a and you'll need 4ga wire to power and ground it. The amps of the 1x4 design will draw too much current for your charging system.
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know what a Magnaforce is but with a 115 Amper and 1000cca battery you should be able to run up to a XFORCE XT-400.
One of my vehicles is a Ranger and it has a 95 amp alternator and I run a Davemade SE400 in it which is the same as the XT400.
You better go bigger on the wire size though, I'm using #8 and I know that is borderline.
The Palomar 775V is a nice amp if you ever plan on talking SSB.
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tech671 a guy i worked with at NCR had a GEO metro and put a colba 148 and 250 watt amp in it every time he keyed up it stopped the motor....he was not asmused.
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce it doesn't take much to stop a Geo Metro......just letting the clutch out will do that. LOL
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Triplecguy
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't know that the Metro had a motor in it. I thought in ran off of pedal power. Guess you learn something every day!!!
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 9:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We got a big chuckle to see that motor and then look at my cady 7 LT eng.
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Sandbagger106
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey!!! I love my Metro guys. 45 MPG, but I only run a 5 watt HT> Seriously though, it does just what it is designed to do, and does it well. I'm pleased. Cheers, SB106
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Hootyal
Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My girlfriend has a 91 metro...The engine is a 3 cylinder 1 litre (spelling?). Pretty quick and you can drive forever on a tank of gas!! Low maintenance also. I put a magnum 257, 200 watt footwarmer and a k30 mag mount in/on it. Works great and you can actually shoot skip with this setup.
Defender of the great "EGGMOBILE"
HootyAl
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Wolverine
Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 5:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all. I just want to be "Heard". I'm not trying to be a "70,000 Watt- Big Strap Dx skip shooter. I just can't justify the "Dead Presidents" invested in this hobby to compete on the "Superbowl 6 channel. Call me cheap, or just to afraid of being immersed in so much RF radiation, that 1st I'll start glowing in the dark, then the final straw is that I change into "The Incredible Hulk".
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine........I have some competition amps that are great on AM but unusable on SSB.
Since you mentioned XFORCE I beleive that a Class B X-400 would be good for you.
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Wolverine
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 5:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Sparkomatic, and Tech 671. No more than 4 sc2879 pills sounds about right. And if you're using a 95 amp alt to run a XT-400, that says a lot. The designations continuous amps draw, and maximum amps draw often confuses me, especially when your amp fuse rating is right between both. Or is it, when the car is running or not?
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine I have run a XT400 2 driving 4 in my pickup and the 60 amp in line fuse at the battery never blew or showed any physical evidence of being close to 60 amps limit. I ran mine keying 250 swinging to 375 Bird 43 watts(1100 watts PEP). 95 amp alternator and 1000 cca battery in a 14.5 Volt system.
I really find it hard to believe that any amps posted amp draw is believable.
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Tech671
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To the best of my knowledge Fluke meters are pretty accurate. XT400-12 105a. The mfr rates the XT400 @ 400w rms. It does 400w rms. I don't think they are in the market of selling batteries or alternators, they don't overrate their amplifier output, don't see any reason they would exaggerate amperage requirements
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applejack
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a boomer 600 has 2 hot wires. is 1 10 ga.feedline fastened with wire nuts sufficient?




applejack,

I would suggest to use two 8 or at the least 10 Gauge wires Direct to battery, One to Negative post and the other to Positive post, With eyelets that will let you connect them to battery bolts. Then use use good CRIMP on connectors from 10 Gauge wire to AMP connectors, you can also add you radio power cord to these connections.

DO NOT TRY and use the cigarette lighter for power for the amp.

Hope this helps.

Lon
Tech 808
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applejack
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 9:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the reason for the wire nuts is so i can pull it out of the truck quick. it has 1 10 ga. hot to the battery but uses the amps grd. lead screwed to the floor pan