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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13407
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 5:33 pm: | 
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Just got a call from Sam Lewis (Magnum International). 
One of the 1st Pre-Production MAGNUM S-9-175 radios will arrive here in the morning from Chris Holland (Magnum Service Center) by UPS for Testing & doing a Copper Review on it. 
Just in time to Road Test it on our upcoming Copper Road Trip next week. 
I will keep everyone UPDATED on the progress.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 714
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:17 pm: |
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awsome sounds good lon.thank-you for the update
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Chronic
Junior Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 26
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 2:27 pm: |
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Yeah nice update. Now take a pile of pictures and show us what's the deal. Make sure you write a lengthy review too please.
I can't believe it...is it FINALLY gonna show it's face? I hope it's not 8-10 months before they become "production". |
Hyperno_1979
Intermediate Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 320
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:17 pm: |
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Drive it like it was stolen Lonnie. I would like to see if it can really take a flogging or does it have to be handled with kid gloves.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
The Fool With The New Tool
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Im4jc
Intermediate Member
Username: Im4jc
Post Number: 234
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 2:04 pm: |
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Is the road trip done yet? Holy crapolie...we're chomping at the bit over here. Maybe Lon had so much fun with the S9-175 on the road trip that he decided to never come back? |
Chronic
Junior Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 10:12 pm: |
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He better come back and with pictures. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13491
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:02 pm: |
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As for Pictures the faceplate is exactly the same as the S-9 and S-9-80 with no difference except it will have a 200 watt Round SWR/Watt Meter (which I hate) instead of the 50 watt SWR/Power Meter.
As for posting pictures of the pre-prodution radio that I have to test that would be useless as the exterior case (Top & Bottom) will be 100% different on the final production model.
I will list as much information as I have on this Pre-Production model.
There is still roughly 2 more weeks of testing to be completed.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Hyperno_1979
Intermediate Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 321
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 11:58 pm: |
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What i should have said was kick it round like a soccer ball. A lap of the Rubicon Trail with the radio sitting on the floor should give some idea of toughness....lol. I mean any radio can live it's life to the max travelling up and down freeways.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
The Fool With The New Tool
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13496
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:34 am: |
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Bob,
The Pre-production S-9-175 went into the oven last night with temp set at 150° at 9PM and will come out this morning at 9AM just in time for the start of the CEF Net's and will be tested on AM/FM/LSB/USB on the CB channel 13/27.115 CEF Net and the CEF 10 Meter Ham net.
This simulates it being locked in a parked car for 12 hours when the temp can climb to 150° inside.
After the CEF Net's it will go into the freezer for 12 hours to simulate it being in a parked car in the colder climates when the temp can fall to -0- or below.
Then it will be on with power 24/7 for the next 2 weeks to see if anything fails ie: SWR/Watt Meter, Control lights & (Nitro Knobs) on this one.
It will be tested on the Beams, Imax2000 and Mobile at 5, 10. 15. 20, 25 and 30 miles on 4 different Mobile Antennas and in 3 different vehicles with myself and 808xyl being mobile getting signal and audio reports from: CEF#156, CEF#159, CEF#165, CEF#166, CEF#195, CEF#557.
It will also be used as a Base radio today and for the next 2 weeks on the CEF Radio Club Net's.
Oh and it WILL get my FAMOUS PAINT SHAKER TEST as well. 
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Hyperno_1979
Intermediate Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 322
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 4:53 pm: |
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Paint Shaker......now we're talking.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
The Fool With The New Tool
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 768
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 6:50 pm: |
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putting it in freezer?yikes how do ya ever keep moisture out doing that.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13502
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 8:27 pm: |
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Dale,
That is the main idea of putting it in the freezer.
If it is in your car overnite in sub zero conditions collecting moisture then I am quite sure you want to know that it is going to work and not blow up or short out.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Penrider
Member
Username: Penrider
Post Number: 75
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:43 pm: |
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lol, if I found a radio that could handle All That and still function properly, I would buy it if it only put out 2watts pep... but I ain't too sure about the paint shaker....lol
Sean
CEF867
CVC81
"Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you're up to!!"
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13503
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 8:32 pm: |
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Penrider,
The Paint Shaker simulates mounting radio's in trucks and 4 wheelers that DO NOT have an air ride suspension like Dump Trucks, Farm Equipment, and others.
If a radio cannot survive a paint shaker for 20 minutes then it probably will not take being jarred around in vehicles for a year or more.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Chronic
Junior Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 7:47 pm: |
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Why do you hate the round meter? I am curious to see what the inside looks like. I do not really care that much of how the outside looks cause I figured it looked just like the rest of the S crowd. I assume this will be available without those nitro knobs cause that is what I hate. I hope that final production has a back-lit faceplate cause that is something that would be real nice for night use. Maybe soon they'll make production and give us all something else to want.
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 771
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 9:31 pm: |
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i see now lon.how did it work for the cb net
i notice your eariler post said ya was gonna try it for 2 weeks.curiousty is killing me.haha
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13504
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 9:41 pm: |
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I do not like round meters because it compresses the control knobs to a smaller space which make's it difficult to use/adjust when driving down the road if you have large fingers as when you try to adjust one control your fin ger are turning another control.
You could add 2 more control knobs under a regular meter that is impossible to do with the round meter which would space them out more for easier operation.
Yes, it will be avialiable WITH or WITHOUT the NITRO KNOBS.
It has the exact same M5878 main board as the other S-9 radios.
And the M5878 Amp Board is enclosed in a metal housing atached to the bottom finned heat sink case.
Sorry there are no plans for a backlit faceplate that I know of.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Bullseye
Intermediate Member
Username: Bullseye
Post Number: 309
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 9:58 pm: |
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Hey Lon Do all the mobiles you review get this kind of treatment before they get your "endorsement" or is this one a special case?
Bullseye/CEF#110/Mem. Since 1/18/2002
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13506
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 15, 2007 - 10:11 pm: |
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Bullseye,
ALL radios I test get the exact same testing.
And Sam almost had a heart attack with the paint shaker and when kid_vicious asked about the heat build up inside a car sitting in the sun in a parking lot in NV or CA with the windows up for 8 hours while working he also gave the OK for the Oven test.
If a radio can't pass the test for heat, cold and vibrations then why buy it knowing it could fail on you in a few months of normal everyday use.
All of the tests that I do most everyone will encounter in everyday use.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Penrider
Member
Username: Penrider
Post Number: 77
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:25 am: |
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I hadn't thought of the paint shaker that way, sounded a little extreme..but when I think about our local well-maintained roads..aka..low maintenance dirt roads, I guess some vehicles would put a radio through even more than that...and we all know what heat and cold Can do to electronics in general....Thanks Lon, that's a lot of work on your part
Sean
CEF867
CVC81
"Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you're up to!!"
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3619
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 4:46 pm: |
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'low maintenance dirt roads'-heck, sean, lon was describing our HEAVILY maintained/always-under-construction(or is that DE-struction)roads here in LI NY & NYC  . more then ONE car has been LOST in an after-winter 'pothole' in this area! |
Penrider
Member
Username: Penrider
Post Number: 78
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 7:45 pm: |
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you got the idea Pat, that's what I meant by "low maintenance"...aka.. our heavily- traveled county roads...then we have our "Level-B maintenance", which means is gets smoothed by the frame of my pickup as I slog through it...even More fun when it dries and the ruts are deeper than tractor tires...either way, Hell on radios and mounts...want a rude shock??...hit a rut and look over and the 2970 that Was mounted to the hump is now Eye-Level!...lol
Sean
CEF867
CVC81
"Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you're up to!!"
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Kid_vicious
Senior Member
Username: Kid_vicious
Post Number: 2497
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 6:54 pm: |
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pat wrote:
"more then ONE car has been LOST in an after-winter 'pothole' in this area!"
i bet the second car was the guy behind him! LOL
lon, i surely appreciate the oven test.
as you know,i have been watching this radio with baited breath for a while now!
matt
anyone wanting a "clean signal", just look to the left and build one of these!!!
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13518
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 7:11 pm: |
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Kid_vicious/Matt,
Without you being the one to ask for a test and bringing up a radio sitting in an enclosed car all day long I would have never thought of it so Thank You! for bringing it to my attention.
And I will NEVER forget Sam saying you want to do WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then he said SURE go ahead so now I SHAKE, FREEZE and BAKE (Oven Test) EVERY radio I get for a Review no matter what manufacturer makes them.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Chronic
Junior Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 3:13 pm: |
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Well 150 degrees probably isn't hot enough to melt even the newer solder but wouldn't it be funny if it did? Sounds like using the oven to re-bake the solder on all those xbox 360's with the red light problems. It is a good idea though and maybe it will show any possible problems like all the cold solder joint problems seen before. You plan on doing those test with or without the unit powered on? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13523
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:28 pm: |
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UPDATE!
General Specifications / Information I so far from the Pre-Production Model of the MAGNUM S-9-175 I am testing.
MAGNUM S-9-175 Pre-Production Model
Testing is being done with NO internal adjustments, changes or tuning.
MAIN Board = Magnum M5878
AMP Board = Magnum 150 PA Rev5
FRONT PANEL: BLUE LED's
1-ERF2030 into 2-ERF2030 into 4-ERF 2030 MOSFETS.
STOCK S-9-50/80
Weight: 4 lbs
Dimensions: 7.75 x 2.5" x 10.75" WxHxD
S-9-175
Weight: 11 lbs
Demensions: 8" x 1-1/4" x 10-1/4" WxHxD
Top Case: 1/8" Solid Aluminum
8" x 1-1/4" x 8-1/2" WxHxD
Cooling Fins extend 5/8" below radio face plate.
Bottom Case:
8" x 1-3/4" x 8-1/2" WxHxD
Frequency Display:
AM/FM ~ 5 Digit
USB/LSB ~ 6 Digit Display
Variable Power Adjustment Stock out of the box:
Dead Key LOW~4 watts swings to 200+
Dead Key HIGH~50 watts swings to 200+
NOTE!
If you want to lower carrier to 1 or 2 watts adjust VR 16 to desired carrier level.
This is the Pre-Production Model and actual Production size may be slghtly larger or smaller.
On the Pre-production MAGNUM S-9-175 that I am testing the UPPER and LOWER cases are CNC machined from solid billet and sharp.
On the FINAL production S-9-175 models the cabinets will be extruded aluminum and will have rounded
edges and better fit / finish.
Sam will be sending me a picture of the Final production cabinets during last week of this month for posting.
I will post updated information as the testing progresses.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 780
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:54 pm: |
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good update lon.is the power adjustable down on
ssb mode?ive seen in your review the deadkey was variable from 4-50watts was curious about ssb
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Chronic
Junior Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:55 pm: |
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I hope you can display all digits on the final run radio. And good to hear somebody is stepping away from the boring black cases. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 13544
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:51 am: |
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Chronic,
If you read my Review on the MAGNUM S-9 you will find if you want 6 digits on AM/FM all you have to do is remove jumper JP4 which is clearly shown in my Review.
I have personally never found any reason to remove it in any of the Magnum radios I have tested using AM/FM.
CLICK on the LINK below.
Magnum S-9 Mobile Radio Review
The case will be a Matt Grey color with MAGNUM on the front of the heat sink fins below the face plate.
I should have a picture of the  case by the end of this coming week or next week to post for the Copper Forum Members.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Mdiver
Advanced Member
Username: Mdiver
Post Number: 525
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 9:23 pm: |
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is it for sale yet ??
Moderator Note!
If you have not seen it posted in the Announcements area of the Copper Forum then No it is not for sale yet and there are no updates.
As the title of this topic is:
Pre-Production MAGNUM S-9-175.
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Dale
Advanced Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 950
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 9:57 pm: |
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HEY LON HOS THE TESTING GOING?I KNOW YA HAVENT
MAde a post yet ,but still curious last post ive seen 4 vposts aboe this one 2 months ago so mi was getting curious??????????
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 2301
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 1:46 pm: |
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Hey Lon, Just wondering if you operate the radios while roasting them? Do my S-9 up medium rare ok Lon! 
All I picture is Lon wearing a chefs' apron and hat BBQing radios!
On a serious note, this type of testing is definatley gonna keep the radio builders on their toes. I can hear all the other builders now, "Lon is on the phone sir, he would like a radio sent to him for testing." "Who is on the phone?" "You know, that tech from the Copper Forum named Lon"....... " Hang up the phone now!!!!" click
Kenny
cef491(27.115lsb)
2sf491(27.555usb)
Indiana
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Hyperno_1979
Intermediate Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 373
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 3:37 am: |
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I agree Kenny,
If only more testers would get into the "ILLINOIS" style of testing maybe we could get better products on the market. But then again could have LESS products. We know what we want. Keep it up Lonster.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
27.355 lsb.
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Chronic
Member
Username: Chronic
Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:45 am: |
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How about some pictures already? It's been 3 months is it for sale yet? Any idea yet about a price on this thing? Sounds like maybe...just maybe Magnum is on the head this time.
4 watts swinging to 200 should sound good. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14030
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 9:40 am: |
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Posting pictures of the Pre-production radio would be useless since changes have already been made and the Pre-production model that I have DOES NOT look anything like the final product will.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 14109
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:29 pm: |
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Since I do not have the Final Production Top & Bottom Covers on my test radio below are pictures from Chris at the Magnum Factory Service Repair Center.
His pictures below show the final production TOP & BOTTOM cases on the radio that are 100% different than on the Pre-production model I am testing and this is why I have not posted any pictures of the unit that I have as Sam requested at Dayton that I not post pictures of a radio that would have no resemblance to the final production product.
On the Pre-production MAGNUM S-9-175 that I am testing the UPPER and LOWER cases are CNC machined from solid billet and very sharp.
On the FINAL production S-9-175 models that Chris has submitted pictures of the cabinets are manufactured from extruded aluminum and have nice rounded edges and a much better fit / finish.
When I was at the Dayton Hamvention last month with Sam in the MAGNUM BOOTH I was able to see a sample of the designed bottom case with the name MAGNUM engraved on it which the pictures below really do not show it justice as it is a sharp looking heat sink.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Starface
Senior Member
Username: Starface
Post Number: 1390
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 7:17 pm: |
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That is very sharp looking, I like.
Good Job Sam
Thanks for the pictures Chris and thanks for the post Lon
STARFACE
CEF#476
KI4NBE
HAM#181
CVC#Ø14
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Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1007
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 7:48 pm: |
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very nice.glad to see some changes to the outside
of case.absolutely love the magnum engraving.
another magnum exculsive.I LOVE IT. great job
sam lewis and magnum/rflimited
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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Hyperno_1979
Intermediate Member
Username: Hyperno_1979
Post Number: 384
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:18 am: |
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That looks absolutely beautiful. No other words can describe it.
CEFFFCEF
Bob
CEF703/CVC26
269 Hunter Valley
27.355 lsb.
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Unit199
Advanced Member
Username: Unit199
Post Number: 503
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:06 pm: |
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That is definately a great looking radio. I am going to order 3 Magnums and will order 5 if the 175 is out when I order the last of Sept or first part of Oct. "MAGNUMS" forever.
HARVE
UNIT199
CEF210
CVC18
KB0YVK
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Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 3871
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:13 pm: |
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was trying to talk myself out of the 175 watt S9....after looking at the pics, YEAH, RIGHT |
Dale
Senior Member
Username: Dale
Post Number: 1028
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:01 pm: |
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thats the coolest looking 10m radio ive seen
in a long time
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
cef426
cvc#64
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