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ncrebel
| | Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 1:16 pm: | 
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Well,went out and got a new Maxon radio.Got into
it gettin ready to clip and solder and everything and CRAP!!Where's the resistors at?Where all the
little transistors at????O well,I was expecting it eventually anyway.They're makin a LOT of the new radios where you can't modify them.The only way to get more watts is through amps now.Go figure. |
Taz
| | Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 2:54 pm: |
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ahahahaha, stick with the older radios or a big base rebel |
Triplecguy
| | Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 8:36 pm: |
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Just curious, but what kind of radios is maxon making now? I haven't seen any except the little 25 dollar ones at walmart. Are they still making decent ones with SSB and the like? I had one of the cheap little ones and it worked real good. Thanx, Dan |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 12:00 pm: |
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LOL i got one of those Maxons that a guy wanted me to work on and the darn thing didnt have any identification at all for any of the parts inside. I gave it back to him and told him to take it back were he got it and get a uniden! |
ncrebel
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 11:43 am: |
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Umm,well the Maxon's I've seen have ID for
the parts inside.Hey they're a cheap radio but
they're a highly underestimated radio!I'm getting
38 watts (says a dosy meter) out of my other Maxon.The meter was calibrated correctly too.So
with a power supply giving it the full 13.8 volts it probally does about 39 maybe 40 watts.Not bad for a radio thats around 40 bucks. |
Taz
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 1:55 pm: |
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38 watts?
not pissible its a single final unit.
and what transistor does it have in it? |
ncrebel
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 7:20 pm: |
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It's a duel final unit.I don't know which transistors I'd have to get it out of the truck,but it was tested accuratly.Ain't gotta blow
200 bucks on a radio just to get power. |
Taz
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 10:33 pm: |
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i never figured maxon would make a duel final unit |
ss8541
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:12 am: |
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you may want to check those dual finals to make sure that they -are- dual finals and not a driver and a final. i have never seen a $40 radio with dual finals. if it is a dual final, there should be either (2) 2sc2312's or (2) 2sc1969's. and with either set up there will most likely be (1) 2sc2166 for a driver. a total of 3 devices that are the same size.
most of the $40 maxons use either a 2sc2314 or 2sc1006 for a driver and a 2sc2078 for a final. not trying to bust your ba!!s. just giving you something to look for as the price isn't matching up here. plus the fact that i have never heard of a dual final maxon. but there is always a 1st. |
409
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 4:34 am: |
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It's very unlikely the radio is doing this much RF, even so, the modulation output would be to low on a stock radio. Most radios don't have that kind of audio required to drive 38-40 watts stock. It takes more modulation for more RF out if you want to be heard........... |
dosyman
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 8:16 am: |
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40 watts from a MAxon I dont think so!!!! You better ck those Meters out I think they are very generous |
Taz
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 9:23 am: |
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haha |
ncrebel
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:46 pm: |
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Well,not being ugly but if you need to ask the people that I talk to.I'm loud and they can back me up with that.I have a Uniden and my Maxon is louder than my Uniden and both radios have been
gone through.Don't believe me if you don't want to
but I'm just sayin what I know.Later |
dosyman
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 8:46 pm: |
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Not possible for a Maxon to put out 40 watts oh yeah you might be loud but that doesnt mean you are getting that much out. Loudness has nothing to do with watts. Ck the meters dude Dosys are very generous meters |
ncrebel
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 10:20 pm: |
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So are you saying Dosy's aren't accurate?Anyway,the radio's loud where people can hear me either way whether it's puttin out 38-40 watts or not. |
Taz
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:41 pm: |
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He never said they are innacurate, he said they arent the best quality and were designed to give a ballpark figure. So its not made to be accurate |
Rightwing
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 11:58 pm: |
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wattage dont mean squat. i`ve talked all over the world with just a few watt`s , good conditions, and a good radio with 100 percent modulation. a little luck helps too. lol |
Taz
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 2:22 am: |
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So have I, and watts do mean squat. I watts mean everything! But not in all cases |
Doseyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 6:47 am: |
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That is what I mean Dosey meters are made to be "close" (some that are calabrated) are still NOT accurate. Why is wattage such a big thing? I have talked around the world on less than 4 watts. You want modulation and voice clarity.
40 watts when you cant understand what the person is saying is no good a good clear 4watt signal is far better. If you want good accurate Meters go get some of the new PDC meteres. |
Taz
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 9:22 am: |
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pdc -astatic 600 |
ncrebel
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 9:33 am: |
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Ham's can talk a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGGG
ways on just 4 watts.The extra power helps a lot
but you can still get out on just a few watts.
I dunno what my radio is puttin out but I've talked to Oklahoma and Alabama like it wasn't nothin.I don't really try to DX much though but I'll have it by spells.I know Ok and AL aren't that far off but I'm just sayin that it will get out with less than 40 watts or however many I'm
puttin out.YOU DON'T NEED big expensive huge radio to talk.You need a decent radio (an amp's nice too)and a good antenna. |
bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 6:32 pm: |
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There are 3 things that are the most important parts of any station cb, ham dosent matter they are ANTENNA, ANTENNA and ANTENNA for 25 years i ran about 10 watts on 50 mhz SSB and worked 35 states. But i had STACKED 4 element hygains at 50 foot now because of space i forced to run verticals ( a MFJ DC-DAYLIGHT FOR HF) and now im building STACKED SQUAILOS for 6 meters true 4 watts will work the world if you give it a chance |
Taz
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 7:16 pm: |
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THE ANTENNA IS AT LEAST 75% OF YOUR SYSTEM!
And watts bo make a difference. You say you can talk everywhere with only 4 watts? well how would you know that if you ran more power you could get places you havent talked to before? |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 7:46 pm: |
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AH! the good ol meter swing argument. LOL. Anymore thats why when im talking about my radios i NEVER tell anyone how much my radios swing on my meters. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:32 pm: |
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You're right RCI2990 swing-shming a constant tone around 1khz shows ya watcher puttin out,after the needle settles in. |
Dosyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:42 pm: |
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I dont think you understand what I am saying, I DONT have to have BIG wattage to talk, Try it some time. I have talked every where on less than 4 watts To be heard one more s unit you have to triple what you put out (do the math) Again wattage is not what it is about Modulation is. Give me a 4 watt radio and a good antenna and I will talk. Get rid of the Dosys and get the Pdc600 a good accurate sat of meters |
Taz
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:08 am: |
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Fine to each his own!
what you need is what you need, everyones need is different |
Ironmask
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 8:00 am: |
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Now that everyone has had their say I'll just reinforce the 4watt theory.
Yes, I am a ferm beleiver that the antenna is THE answer.
I drove a cabover machinery flatbed. I used my radio to dispatch my other trucks.
An antenna on the outside of the mirror brackets on both mirrors. An antenna in the middle of the cab [not hot] and an antenna at each end of the headache rack. By the use of a switch box I had what might be called a stationary beam. This set up permitted me to aim my signal in what ever direction I chose and with a clear 100% mod. 4W
radio I was able to comunicate where I chose.
Iron Mask |
Taz
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 7:31 pm: |
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Yes the antenna is the answer, but the wattage is also a big part! |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 9:06 pm: |
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10-04!! Ill keep my old Dosy. it works for me thats all that matters....
"To each their own" as i say. Heck if the CB world was perfect everyone would run a Bird 43p and a scope to see what their radios were doing and it would be so darn boring no one would want to talk!!!! LOL! Everyones set up and tastes in radios, antennas, meters, and mikes is different. |
Doseyman
| | Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:00 pm: |
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PLEASE !! What good does it do to try to give advice when all you do is ignor and run you big LINEARs and sound like a person with a mouth full of marbles |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 4:02 pm: |
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Ive heard some very, very, good sounding stations running some big watts(on SSB mostly) so i disagree. not all stations sound like "a person with a mouth full of marbles"... |
jyd
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 7:57 pm: |
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just because you dont like amps,dont mean the rest of us dont.he has to be a ham operator.i run one and mine is clear as a bell and loud as a freight train.and even if there was no linears,the channels would still be clogged up just with less signal.so why are you crying. |
bill
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 7:58 pm: |
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he is a real spoil sport.we will keep runing our linears.just for that i will always run mine on high.
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Taz
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 9:40 pm: |
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Actually there is a guy out here that has 13,000 watts and he sounds better as the power goes up, man he is a big dog!!!
I think if you set it up right you can sound better with the amp on! |
Taz
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 9:40 pm: |
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Actually there is a guy out here that has 13,000 watts and he sounds better as the power goes up, man he is a big dog!!!
I think if you set it up right you can sound better with the amp on! |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 9:54 pm: |
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IMHO it isnt the amp thats to blame but the way the radio is raned! If you run a clean radio(no limiters removed and tuned by a pro NOT some screwdriver jockey) and a low SWR, good ground, and a good quality antenna then you shouldnt have any problems.. The problem is with some guys that run their mike gains wide open as as a barndoor and rip out the limiters that cause the problems.. |
Bulldog
| | Posted on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:31 pm: |
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Why is when somebody disagrees with some else "he must be a ham" I'm a ham and I don't care if anybody runs a amp or not. But you must admit if you are listening to somebody talking on channel 6 and he is bleeding over from ch3 to ch8 something is wrong |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 10:46 am: |
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I dont really know. But one thing i have noticed is on a lot of forums when you post a post or reply about running an amp it normally will cause a flame fest. IMHO everyones setups are different some guys like to run a bit of heat and some guys run AM, some run SSB, and some run freeband. No its not all legal but everyone has a choice! If a guy is a ham so be it. we all need to get along besides we all have one thing in common!!!! A LOVE FOR RADIO!!!!!!!!! |
jyd
| | Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:44 pm: |
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cause i here mor ham operaters complaining than anyone else,not talking about all ham people, but alot dont like people an regular am channels and they despise people running amps on am channels.thats cause people run to much power,that is why the guys on channel 6 bleed so bad.if you run 1,000 watts of clean power,thats all you need to talk anywhere.i run around 400watts and i have no problems talking anywhere.i can go to channel 6,with 10 db of noise and key and get a reply every time.but everyone likes there own thing you cant knockem for that i guess.well yall have a good day. |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 12:53 pm: |
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Do you think somone running that kind of power would have a clipped audio limiter? I dont think so. His house looks like a radio station, only the best stuff. |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 2:59 pm: |
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He dosent run any astatic or turner, only digital studio mics!!! plainly the best! |
RCI2990
| | Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 11:43 pm: |
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I see heil is coming out with a really sweet looking studio quality desk mike that looks like something from the 1950s..... I like it! |
Sintronic_Cpu
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 6:42 pm: |
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Hmmm, I talk on a ranger RCI 2990 with an echo max 2000, I key 15 and swing to a little over 100 and talk everywhere, no one yet has told me I bleed over, but then again, none of my limiters have been removed. I key up and say audio test on channel 6, someone always comes back. I freeband on LSB and just say CQ DX then my numbers, someone always comes back. Never found a noise level I couldn't get over and everyone I hear I can talk to, so really everyone is right in a way. Sometimes power is good like in my case, sometimes a 4 watt radio does just as good, but sounds like poo when a linear is behind it, it just depends, every radio is different, every operators opinion is different, everybody likes something different in every case! I have talked all around the world on a STOCK UNIDEN WASHINGTON TOO, only doing 10PEP on SSB, talked everywhere. Talked skip on channel 11 am also, just depends ON your ANTENNA, CLEAN CLEAR Modulation, MICROPHONE that enhances YOUR OWN VOICE PATTERNS, and atmospheric CONDITIONS CONDITIONS CONDITIONS!!!!! 400 watts is good for some, bad for others, 4 watts is good for some, bad for others, all depends on personal preferences, and conditions in the end!!! Just my two cents!  |
