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GTO
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want to get a beam sometime i was looking around and i came across this one that copper sells does any body know if this is a good beam?
is it worth the price?
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 8:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maco has been around a long time and should work as well as anyone i asume this antenna is 3 el vert and 3 el horz good for about 6 DBD or about 8 DBI as for price copper always wins
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Taz
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I looked in the catalog and copper sells the moonraker 4.

229.99
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maco has been around a while, about 20 years, thats when they bought out Wilson, and Wilson built the same beams for nearly 20 years before that. Right before Maco bought them out, Wilson had a sale, lowering inventory, the 8 element Shooting Star was selling for 80 bucks.
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Taz
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow
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bullet/151 southern Indiana
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

id like to buy one now brand new for that!
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Taz
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 7:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would take like 2 or 4 of the shooting stars for that price. Put them all up and BAM!
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bullet/151 southern Indiana
Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2002 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there yah go
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Hillbilly_Hippy
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 6:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The first question you want to ask your self is do I need the Horizontal Capability?I f not go with the M103,or m104.If you do need the horizontal capability,then go with the comet,unless you can scrape up the cash for the Shooting Star.
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Taz
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 9:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like to have the capabillity of both.

Even with a beam that can only do one kind of polorazation at once dosent matter, you can run duel rotators.

Flat side is better for local talk when your talking to somone else and some nugget on verticle trys to key on you and your buddy. Flat is better for long distance local and is also better for skip in my opinion because I dont have to hear somone locally because most people out here run vert.
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bullet/151 southern Indiana
Posted on Saturday, May 04, 2002 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try curcular polorization some time just for fun,if you have dual polarity beams.left or right either one as long as your buddys the same as you you wont lose any power from mismatched polarity. this is very effective for mobile to base and skip were polarity changes can occur and its easy to do.
you do lose some 3db+- with horz and vert antennas though
ask bruce about it or look it up in a arrl antenna compendium vol 1.

i like you, also like to be able to go from
vert to horz.

my little 2 element quad is set up in the square fashion and feed at one of the bottom corners which provides me with both vert/horz polorizations at once almost equally well. coarse because of ground effects horz does seem to produce a slight advantage in signal over vertical (about 1 s unit )and of coarse much less noise as most qrm/qrn is verticaly polarized.(another reason i like loops less noise)
but its a cheap and easy feed system as its only a single 50 ohm cable and transformer/balun instead of 1 for each.
73's
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