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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now This is strange !


DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (July 8, 2002) – APCO-International today expressed concerns about the serious implications of a new wooden magnetic wall paneling being marketed as a solution to pesky cell phones ringing in theaters and restaraunts. The announcement from Iwate University states that the new magnetic wood is packed with minute magnetic particles called nickel-zinc ferrite designed to block radio waves and the new wood can be used to make doors and walls for rooms or even entire buildings.

“Blocking signals to limit cell phones from causing disruptions might seem like a benefit. We are, however, urging people to consider the much more serious problem that would be created by blocking essential radio signals used by public safety personnel and the blocking of calls to 9-1-1. The loss of these critical emergency services would far outweigh the small benefit of silence in movie theaters” said APCO International President Glen Nash.

The availability of effective radio communications is an essential element in enabling police, fire and EMS personnel to handle emergency situations quickly. Disrupting those radio communications would significantly complicate the response, potentially leading to increased harm to the public including serious injury and death. Furthermore, there is no way to distinguish between an inappropriate cell phone call in a restaurant or theater and a call being made for a valid emergency purpose. Use of the cell phone to call 9-1-1 in times of emergency would also be disrupted by these "blocking" devices.

APCO International understands the social inconvenience caused by cell phones being used at inappropriate times and in inappropriate places. But a broad-brushed "solution" such as this wood paneling or the use of radio signal jamming devices at public facilities carries far too many negative implications to be a reasonable solution to the behavioral problem. The importance of effective public safety communications prevail over the minor benefits to be gained from blocking cell phone usage.
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Alsworld
Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 9:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man,

sure seems more Americans are upset by legal cell phones than illegal 11 meter amplifiers!

ha ha ha ha ha :) :)

Sorry Bruce my friend, just couldn't resist a little humor. It used to be young children screaming during weddings, funerals, etc. that upset the public. Now it's cell phones. Comments meant only in a humerous way I assure you.

An interesting article for sure. Future implications could be interesting???

Alsworld
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 4:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NEXT brite idea ....... alsworld's kid proof walls cancle out screaming kids.....and nagging wives....and the upgraded one mother-in-laws.

Hummmmmm lets become MILLIONARS.
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Deadly Eyes
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thinking back to the time of the caveman, 1951.

Hmmmmm I wonder what we did before the invention of the cell phone??? Perhaps use the the phone with two wires running to it? Naaa I think mostly we just waited untill the person got home.

The worst invention ever is that of the cell phone. I refuse to own one. In fact I do not even know how to answer one much less make a call on one.

There are times when you just gotta run away and hide from the world, the wife, the kids, etc. and just be with yourself.

DE
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Hoosier Cardinal
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IM all for the anti cell phones in theatres and restaraunts. Nothing more grating than to be with the girlfriend in a theatre and be intterupted by a damn cell phone next to you!!!!!! :-(
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DeadlyEyes
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 6:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re Bruce....

Screaming kids are not my probmem as almost all the movies I see are rated R or PG 17. HOWEVER my big thing is adults who talk to the movie screen while the movie is being run.

DE
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Insider
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's one for You DE.

A little over a year ago, when I was volunteering at my college radio station, I was in the "phone-a-thon" room asnwering phones for our pledge drive. There's a mic there so we can talk on the air and update the public on the fund drive's progress.

It was 2:00 AM and we were just about ready to sign off the air, when the on air person said to the audience he couldn't find the sign off cart. Without thinking, I stared at the radio and blurted out "It's on the minidisc." To our surprise, the voice asked which one?

After 12+ hours in that small room, even the lambest of humor was enought to lighten the mood.
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, August 10, 2002 - 9:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dad installed computer networking and when he was at a local air force base he was putting in a wall plate and then he attempted to cut out the holw the saw wouldnt cut properly so he used a utillity knife and nibbled at it and finally discovered the walls are insulated with 1/2 inch led all the way around. he brought the chunk home and its about 12" x 12" and 1/2" thick and man its heavey!!!!!!
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BIG FOOT
Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..I like the idea of radio-resistant - rooms.. if some one even has an EMERGENCY and needs to use a cell-phone or other communication needs...walking outside is not that hard to do...you had to WALK in... just as easy to walk OUT......(lol)...BIG FOOT
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, August 11, 2002 - 6:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

big foot in the jail even our jail radios dont always work forget cphones maby they need to go to jail construction LOL
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BIG FOOT
Posted on Monday, August 12, 2002 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...bruce...you are right...BIG FOOT
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BIG FOOT
Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 5:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...there are many areas here in north ALABAMA that a cell phone will NOT work, even near metro HUNTSVILLE and Decatur area, but the companies will NOT put up towers to eliminate the "blind spots", the towers are up, but with no antennas at the top and no BOXES at the base...just waiting and rusting away for the cell phone companies to actually DO something....BIG FOOT
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Triplecguy
Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We use 5/16" plate steel here at the mountain. Although it is heavy, it is not very high tech and relatively easy to find and cheap to purchase. It stops everything including EMP (which is why it is used) from coming in. Our entire complex is built out of it. I've seen the lead encased rooms, but I believe that it is used more for radiation protection over radio wave protection. Although I'm sure it would work just as well, it would be much more expensive and way the heck heavier than plate steel.
DAN
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Insider
Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 7:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..I like the idea of radio-resistant - rooms.. if some one even has an EMERGENCY and needs to use a cell-phone or other communication needs...walking outside is not that hard to do...you had to WALK in... just as easy to walk OUT......(lol)...BIG FOOT
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Fine as long as it is made clear to the public that they are entering an RF resistant environment and that their cellphones, wireless PDAs, GPS, et al will not operate in that area.

True that walking in and out is easy, but if you are attending to someone who's suffering a medical problem, the 911 operator will often ask for assments on the person's conditon or give instructions. Having someone outside trying to relay instructions to another inside during this could make things interesting. Though I'm sure RF resistant movie theaters and restaraunts would've planned for this and would have a dedicated phone system installed for emergencies only.
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The hospital class i was in today 8 people had phones go off. The class cost $550 i would like to hear what they had to say. Now here i was with 2 HT's ONE SHERIFF DEPT AND ONE HAM, A pager AND a C-phone and except for the shacking pager all were turned off everyone has my pager number and if work needed me it only took seconds to walk out in the hall and call back...... bp today 180/120 sugar 310 at noon working on it...
Bruce
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BIG FOOT
Posted on Wednesday, August 14, 2002 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...BRUCE...glad you got your B=P situation straightened out...did a bit of PRAYING for you ..( welcome or not )... INSIDER...you remind me of my self. A greater accomplishment you can not achieve. You are so much like me, we should swap nicknames here and see if any one notices the difference, and how long it take for some one to notice . You have achieved such a great accomplishment, I know now that you are so PROUD of your self. You are getting to be more like ME every day. Congradulations sir/madam !!...BIG FOOT