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Cuddlebear202
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 3:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guy's,

I copied and pasted this info directly from the Ebay Page that had this radio on it. Check this out.


Cobra 2000 GTL ,Frequency readout works great . Both meters light up.Modulation limiter removed(meaning is really swings) Comes with a cobra hand microphone and a nice silver eagle desk mic. Unit has lots of extras in it. 26.5-27.855 on display flipping the speaker knobs,plus the cb/pa switch gives you alot more extras past 27.855 all the way up to 28...... You wlll not be dissapointed with this radio.It is in nice condition as you can see in the pics.It does not come with the stock speaker but has one nicely mounted inside in the inside top where the air holes are and works great,I would rather have one there instead of having to mess with the one that comes with it in the way,but thats just the way I like it anyway.Buyer to pay $25.00 shipping.All my items are sold as is with no returns.I accept Paypal (preferred) or money order.USA BIDDERS ONLY PLEASE


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THANKS FOR LOOKING AND HAPPY BIDDING

Limiter clipped??? Which means it really splatters and sounds like Cr*p. I could say a few things more, But why bother?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1374714672
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cuddlebear in the last week i have receved now a total on 7 radios i bought off e-bay 3 were totaly trashed 3 were in such poor condition that repair is almost out of reason and one might woork but it looks like poop.I posted off of a ebay listing a 5054dx that is being sold as damaged here on coper last night it is up to 60 bucks in that shape " might have been hit by lighting he said ranger said it could not be repaired" Well it looks great in the photos so wana bet it will go back on e-bay as a creampuff? Now e-bay has been a big disapointment to me i feel that one way to cut down on this is the seller should be required to by back any not working radio if returned in less than 7 days no as is sales unless its sold as parts like this one is and if sold as parts it cannot be resold unless its resold as parts or repaired and sold with the mandtory 7 day return. E-bay needs to tighten things up and crack down yea i know its money but a lot of e-bay buyers realy dont have the money to get stuck all the time either. Another problem is misslabled radios i see lots of them some are honest mistakes but geese common last week a old military earphone switch box was sold as a WW2 tank radio ....gurrrrrr.
Bruce
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oldguy
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see what you are saying BUT isnt this just your thoughts? The radio can be restored back so it MIGHT be a good deal!!
We thank you for your input
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Taz
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 1:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he stated ranger told him it is not repairable like i said beware of ebayers bearing 5054's
LOL
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Hoosier Cardinal
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 6:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont know why everyone on these darn CB related forum seem to think that if you remove the limiter -you will- sound like ••••!! I have run radios several times that have the limiters entierly and completely removed and they seem to sounds great over the air. NOT once have i ever gotten a bad report or interference complaint about my radios EVER! Yeah ive been told to "turn it down you too loud" a few times but that was because i had my turner plus 3 turned up too high. I DO NOT run all my radios wide open to the max like some guys do and yes, running them that way will make you sound like ••••, but if a guy uses common sense with a good mike and a radio that has no limiter -YOU-CAN- SOUND-GOOD!!!!
As always, my .002 cents.
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 8:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hooser REALY the limeter is there for a valid reason not to cut down on your audio. I like prossers and use them in my radios it works great no spalter no cutting out things. Not to say some limiters are not badly designed what they should do is monitor the NEGITIVE peak of your modulation and chop it off before it hits 100 % it should not care how high the + side goes. The FCC was correct in requireing them not because of you but you know the bozo out there who is 25 ch wide because he had some tech cut it out them unlike your self took no pride in how he sounded.
Just my opinion
Bruce
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Hoosier Cardina
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah but i dont run my stuff wide open like a barn door either! I use the ham school of though and run "just what i need" to get the message across...
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See a little common sence pays off !
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409
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right Hoosier.....I haven't seen a used radio in years with a limiter running. Most disable them right out of the box because they clip to much. Just look at it on a scope and you can see clipping on many all the way down to around 60% modulation. It makes most radios sound weak. If,like you say, you run your radio smart, removing the clipper helps tons. At least then you can get near 100% modulation.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

409 again the problem is bad design not the clipper done right it should sharply cut in at about 90% and fully limit at 95. Hosser i admire your forsight to keep it clean good show!
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Ohiobiker
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well...this E-bay thing has me at a LOSS...and not on the cash end either....I have made in excess of a dozen purchases thru e-Bay and have only gotten taken on one occasion, and If I think about it, and "I did" it stated "untested and for a neigbor"....So I knew from the get-go that the guy selling it knew very little about the item...It arrived and looked just as pictured a Excellent shape HR-2510...After finding no recieve and no transmitt, it went to a local tech who was able to find a Cold solider joint in the board and fixed it for the cost of a bench fee....Of course I wanted more done to it once he called and said what he'd found...but when I walked in with detailed instructions on how to chipswitch it and add verible wattage control thru the SWR knob he said he Didn't have time to do anymore work with racing season ahead of him.(this was early spring). I wonder if where the instructions said "For Experinced Tech's Only" on the Wattage control modification scared him or the fact that I knew exactly what needed done and how to do it was intimadating to him or what....LOL...But in the Backwoods out here everyone is leary of the NEW-Face in town I guess, till they see you helping that first sheep over the fence.....LOL...There are some simple rule to make safe purchases thru e-Bay....
Check the persons history and profile....there if there are negitive comments be leary, The e-mail address is easily findable to the people who post bad/negitive post about a seller...write them and ask what the problem was?...was it corrected? did the seller make any attempt to right the wrong?...these all play into what you buy....If you just go on-line and see what your looking for and buy it "no Questions ask"...well I have a lot of stuff to sell here you might be interested in buying too....I have spent in excess of $400 for one piece of radio equipment on e-Bay, but I think there were more then 8-10 private e-mails between me and the seller....I ask about what I was buying, and other questions too about other things regarding radio. After "feeling confident that the Gentleman knew what he had and wasn't just doing this to turn a Quick Buck. I made the purchase...All I can say is ...In life you'll meet many kinds of people, The outcome of any and all your experince's in life are 10% chance/luck and 90% attitude...How you deal with situations in life determine's how the outcome is...Well its good to be back on line, and at the Fourm....keep up the good fight all...In closing I would like to say in all honesty....QRP SUCKS....LOL
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your right 409, on stock radios the modulation looks like its hitting a brick wall on the meter. That particular radio, the Cobra 2000 had about 50% modulation out of the the box, guess thats ok if you don't wanna be heard. A power mike would not help much, as they would squeal with the limiter in. Like Hoosier said, its just a matter of getting your mike set to the radio, and if you don't, someones gonna tell you.
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Cuddlebear202
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok,

Perhaps I'm wrong. I apologize. But I have always been taught you keep the limiter in. But not a problem. I could be wrong. I am always learning new things.:)
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Hoosier Cardina
Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 2:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like i said you CAN run a radio with the limiter removed from service and you CAN sound good! All it takes is some manipulating of the radios mike gain and the manipulation of the mike itself and you can end up sounding great over the air! What i do is find some of my locals that i know really well and get them to listen to me and set the mike and radio to what they say sounds good! :-)
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 1:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CB sets didnt even have them till the mid 70's But if designed right they realy should not cause a problem if you only getting 60% mod shoot that engineer before he design any more.
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Hoosier Cardina
Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 1:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My AR Ranger 3500 still has its limiters but nedless to say it sounds great no matter what! One of the best sounding SSB radios ive ever ranned!
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Wyatt_Earp
Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 7:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I own a 2000GTL that has the mod. limiter cut. I get around 95% modulation with no distortion or feedback. Oh, I use a D104 too.I agree with what Hoosier stated.
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 8:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Distortion will hapen ABOVE 100% the limiter was ment to prevent that not lower audio to 50%.... bad design did that