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Deadly Eyes
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 8:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if there is a CB Service in the other countries of the world even remotely similar to that which we have in the United States?

I was just curious and wondering if we were the only one with such a service as CB and FRS.
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Znut
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.radio.gov.uk/publication/interface/word-pdf/ir2027v1-1.pdf

Looks like the English folks are ahead of the game! Good sized band and you can use many modes, including digital.
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Sarge
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The United States is rather unique in having the CB and FRS radio services. Up until the 1980's the US and Canada were about the only countries with a "Citizen's Band" radio service. One of the big reasons is that CB is a domestic radio service - each country must decide if it will allocate frequency spectrum for such a service and then regulate it. Amateur Radio is internationally recognized, which is why most of the ham bands are available all around the world.

England and Germany have CB, but the band is very limited in Germany (1/2-watt output and only 7-channels). England has opened up more spectrum as CB caught on there in the 1980's. The first legal CB band in England was in the upper portion of the 11-meter band and used FM for the transmission mode. I spent several months working in England and bought a small CB mobile radio just to see what it was like. Not much different than American CB in terms of who was on the air.

I don't think you will find anyplace other than the USA with as much free access to the radio frequency spectrum, especially in the form of CB, FRS and the MIRS radio services.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 8:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sarge

The frebanders dont know how good they have it. now its true that other countries have bootlegers too but when caught the punishment is much more severe than here where unless your a real jurk your probley going to get a slap the first time.
In some countrys you must regester all radios even recivers so if they want to come and get it they know who and where you are. Hopefully we will never come to that
bruce
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Apocolypse400
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about the Latin American Countries? Why is the Spanish skip so strong? I have heard that they use their radios like telephones because there is no phone service in some parts of those countries. Whats the deal?
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you are correct and most of it is not legal but the problem is they have little to no inforcement just like here they are so blazent you hear them on 10 meters all the time even 29.6 a fellow ham tried to get them to id and they left when asked for calls now if they get caught there is no ACLU.
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Sarge
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 5:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, back in the 1980's many European countries required licenses for receivers, as well as transmitters. While stationed in Germany from 1982-1986 I can remember seeing the yellow VW vans with the beam antenna mounted on the roof putzing around the city of Wiesbaden. They belonged to the German Bundespost, which back then was more than just the postal service. The Bundespost also was the government agency providing the telephone and television service to all of West Germany. If you did not have a TV license, the yellow VW Transporter van would sniff out the Local Oscillator (LO) frequency signal leaking out of your television. Then would come the knock on your door.

When I went back to Germany for a second tour of duty (1998-2001) things had really changed. The German government has divested the Bundespost of telephone service, splitting it off as a commercial venture. There are still Federal television stations, but now there are independent commercial television stations broadcasting as well. I didn't see any yellow vans, so I suspect the licensing requirement for TV's was dropped as the television service was opened up to commercial stations.

Back in the 1980's the same licensing requirements existed in England. This explains some of the fun poked at the topic by various Monty Python skits.

I hope the USA never takes a giant step backwards in regards to receiver licensing. I doubt it would ever happen, but then I still can't believe that stupid and unenforceable law about scanners and cellular telephones. I notice it doesn't seem to apply whenever someone records a politician's cellphone conversation and provides it to the local news station.

I agree with the "Lady Godiva" priciple. Radio waves travel through buildings walls and throughout the area surrounding the transmission source. If you intend to radiate a signal, then don't be surprised when someone listens to it. Just as with Lady Godiva, if you are going to ride buck naked through the city streets, then fine - it's your right to do so. Just don't complain when someone sneaks a peak! If this idea bothers you, then put on some clothes and encrypt your radio signal. Unless you wear clothes and encrypt your radio signal, you have no right to expect privacy out in public.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 6:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sarge my thoughts too im very opposed to the c-phone laws and scanner bands and if you dont scramble it you dont have a B***. As to recording republican phone calls THATS LEAGAL just ask Ted Kennedy he lissened to the tapes.... now i want to hear the tapes from his car... Glug Glug! Now scrambled is diffrent the laws are there already a descrambler will cost you LONG jail time. BABY monotors are a great way to find out everything going on in others homes its like you planted a lissing device and its LEAGAL to lissen to them!
So if you have someone you want to spy on who has a small kid remember christmas is 7 weeks away.... happy snooping!
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ryan
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i find it funny how america has the most spectrum space for non-licensed use and yet the media still controls everything.