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Cobra
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 7:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I Just Got this amp from a Friend. This Amp transmits Very good i get alot of watts but to turn on the light on the meter i have to click the ssb button a few times In Then when i transmit the Receive goes dead. Then when I turn off the amp the receive comes back on.
Any Suggestions?

Thanks
Cobra
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sounds like a bad TR relay
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cOBRA
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is It Hard To change? Is it worth it. can i change it my self? Were do i get one?
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 7:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont own one but my guess is its a double pole double throu relay probly a 12 v DC coil and you could get one from a good electronic supply house
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307
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 7:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope...Replace both small transistors (most likely 2N4401 or 2N2907). This will fix the problem...

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Cobra
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 8:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are they easy to install it is worth it? How much are they?
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 9:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2907? is this a know problem? intresting
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307
Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it is...Expensive????MASSIVE cost , about .60 cents a piece at Rad-Shack...Hard to put in? About 10 minutes...

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Cobra
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 1:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I Sent You A Message Through Email. Someone worked on this amp and they did somthing to fix the problem but did not work. Im not sure if he did this but. I Looked at the schematics on there site and they are 2 2n4125 But in mine there is one of the 2n4125 and there is a 2n5227 could that be a Problem.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

307 youve had too much eggnog HE HE HE the 2907 and 2222 are widely used and depenable transistors my question was how come they would be failing unless it was a design flaw. Otherwise i thought it sounded like pitted relay contacts
Bruce
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ss8541
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 2:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is a known problem with -all- amps of this type. there is no protection circuit in these amps to protect the pre-amp trans so a strong signal from a nearby txer will take them out. hooking the coax up backwards can sometimes take the pre-amp out also if the pre-amp is on when radio is keyed(while coax is connected backwards).
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307
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They can have a diode juction shorted or open and be good from E-B , C-B , but E-C is shorted...Very common in Texas Star amps...Back to the Egg Nog...Hick-up

307
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cobra
Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 7:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ss8541
307 said to put in 2n4401 transistors. I did so but I am not sure if I put then in the legs right. I just matched up the way the transistor looked on the board. The amp keys OK but the receive is low. Are these the protection transistors?
THANKS
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307
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 7:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No , They are not protection transistors. sounds like you solved the "key" problem , when you turn on the RX amp , do you see "more S units" on the meter, just not what you think you should see? The new Texas Star amps use 2N4401's. It should work

307
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Cobra
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 5:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Key Worked. The Amp Gets out great. It Does What its supposed to in wattage .. the problem is when i touch the ssb light to turn on the meter light the Receive goes almost dead and when i turn off the amp the receive comes back on.
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307
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"touch the ssb light to turn on the meter light" I am confused here...What are you trying to say?

307
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cobra
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know its strange to get the amp too key i have to push the ssb botton In And Out in then it will be on..
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Cobra
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 2:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

307 what should i do with this amp?
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307
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 8:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have seen it before where a "button" set of contacts was not making and it caused the same problem you described...The answer ? Get it fixed... I can do it for you if you email me at tech307@copperelectronics.com

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