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707
| | Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 9:08 pm: | 
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http://www.projectcensored.org/stories/2003/1.html
SO, it is conceivable that were the 26-27mc band to be privatized, then one could be sued in court for operating there. An entire commercial industry around catching "frequency pirates" would spring up to support this. Of course, the chances of getting caught would be much greater than now, since this industry would certainly support more than a few inspectors as is the case now with the FCC...
Perhaps by the time Solar Cycle 24 rolls around, we won't be shooting skip nor talking locally on our favorite band...
This goes for the most unused portions of the amateur bands as well...
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bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 1:27 pm: |
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707
Great i just get my station set up and now i got to pay the CABLE people ! |
de
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:14 am: |
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RE Bruce
I hope you had a good holiday season.
Given the problems the FCC is having with the CB band I would not be surprised if they (the FCC) just reassigned it to a more behaved private spectrum use.
The problem with this is all those truckers out there. We both know that they will not be ripping out their mobile rigs and amps just because the rules of the game changed.
Later
DE |
ryan
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:27 am: |
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The FCC does a lot of things in private. its nothing new. and you know i WILL NOT give up my 27mhz. if the fcc wants to re-assign our band to someone else, they'll have to fight each and every one of us first. this is the only band in the radio spectrum that the public has held down just because of sheer numbers. too bad it didnt work that way up in the 88-108 band or maybe we'd have some more interesting radio above 91.7 |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:20 pm: |
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ryan it is not the only band
160, 80, 40, 30, 20, 17 17, 12, 10, 6, 2, and 440 PLUS FRS are bands that are OPEN to everyone they are not OWNED yet. Now as for 88-108 it has always been a gripe with me since that band is line if sight that experimental low power broadcasting has not been allowed by the fcc.
I think your very right since i would much perfure to hear your band than some of the stuff our local broadcasters put out elevaror music anyone?
Bruce |
Znut
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 12:54 pm: |
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The 1.2 and 2.4 gig ATV'ers are having to watch thier part of the spectrum already with cordless phones and other wireless gadgets getting a chunk of "unlicensed" bandwidth. |
Ryan
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 1:44 pm: |
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heres what we should do if the fcc wants to take away 27, we will build a wrestling ring complete with ropes, garbage cans, tables, billy clubs, and all that other neat stuff and challenge them to a tag team match. x # of FCC agents vs. an equal number of 11 meter ops. last man/woman standing wins the battle over our 40 channels for his/her respective side |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:59 pm: |
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Start an over the air petition in english and spanish on every channel and set a date of protest and get as many cbers as we can to go to the u.s. capitol,million man march,phah!!15,000,000 that should get their attention! |
Topten
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:05 pm: |
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The government operates on one simple principle,
"They are not happy till your miserable".
So anything "Big Brother" can do to control
every aspect of our lives "it will do".
Nuff Said... |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 9:01 pm: |
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Topten
Have you checked out any other place? I have a close friend in brisbain austraila who will tell you it's no better there o they are very restricted on simple things like OWNING A GUN.
You know i even heard some people saying if Pres Bush was elected they would leave well what keeping them? If I sound like maby i love this place SO BE IT.
Bruce |
CM 3885
| | Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 10:54 pm: |
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No wonder everyone hates the FCC.......... They SUCK! |
ryan
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:49 am: |
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for added hilarity, all the cb operators have to wear the standard wrestling style of spandex. i think being beat up by someone wearing brightly colored spandex would make it all that much more humiliating. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 8:37 am: |
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If only radio had been in common use in 1776 it may have been included in the bill of rights then we'd have a leg to stand on,THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BARE RADIOS,LOL. |
Topten
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 9:37 am: |
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The USA is still the best place to live on the planet. But there are people out there working very hard to destroy this great country of ours. Can you imagine Gore or Hillary in the White House? Thank God for our current President & keep him in your prayers! |
ryan
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 1:50 pm: |
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our current president is not perfect topten. he actually strikes me as VERY shady. there is just too much stuff that doesnt connect. i love this country as much as the next red blooded american, but i dont believe that line of "THEY HATE OUR FREEDOMS AND OUR WAY OF LIFE" it has to go deeper than that.
he doesnt make a lot of decisions, bush is just a puppet. he cant even do a speech without fumbling and messing it up.
the biggest threat to us is our own mass media. too many things get under-represented if at all while shoving a massload of irrelavant information down the peoples throats.
ask anyone around my age or younger if they know their constitutional rights. you'll be suprised and disgusted all at the same time. my mother works in an elementary school. she is always telling us about the TV zombie faces those kids have on them 24/7. she comes home aggrivated because its almost like the kids are deaf. why havent they made TV illegal yet? it obvioulsy over-stimulates the brain and works just like a drug. it seems to make people stupider than pot ever will.
to think that our government has a bright halo and doesnt kill anyone that doesnt deserve death is naive at best. profit almost always comes out on top. |
Buck
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 6:31 pm: |
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Bottom line is that we have the best president out of the two we had to choose from!!! |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 8:24 pm: |
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This is an imperfect world we live in and we must work within the system to improve our way of life,bottom line is we are all responsible for our own actions and we must accept it either peacably or be forced to,the choice is ours. |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 9:04 pm: |
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Well My view is slanted since i deal from the view point of a person who has strong ties to the handicapped. But few know just how bad things WERE under clinton a program called INCLUSON was started this is the kinda think the left wing loves a feel good thing. They are still tring to push this down on the american people and in short this is it. My son is 19 he is profoundly autistic, he in profoundly retarded he cannot talk and is in adult pampers. Now under INCLUSON it is illeagal to have a school for kids like him he MUST be placed in a regular high school with normal kids now many of us have fought it and at this point they have backed off. Now you know why i would NEVER vote for anyone connected with this kind of thinking no matter what party!
This is the grestest place in the world
Bruce |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 9:54 pm: |
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Bruce you are so right!!!! |
Sparkomatic
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 5:25 pm: |
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Topten.......... With President (AWOL for his Air National Guard duty) Bush we actually might be worse off than with Gore as far as National Security. Bush is pushing for war to trump up his approval ratings and avenge his Father's failure. He does owe his father a bunch for keeping him out of Vietnam and keeping him out of Levenworth Military prison for being AWOL during his Air National Guard duty.
With me being a USAF Veteran I am disgusted at the way the last 2 Presidents shirked their Military Service obligations.
Bush, Gore, or Hillary(how she even got mentioned I haven't a clue) have nothing to do with the FCC.
Bush doesn't hesitate to send our brave men and women into the middle East but won't police the US borders with troops because it might offend Canada and Mexico........during a war on terrorism not securing the US borders is beyond stupid.
GWB has infuriated the world more than Bush Sr, Clinton, and Reagan combined and I hope that suicide bombers don't cause chaos in this country but I guess we all think it is inevitable.
Gore wouldn't react harshly to terrorist act and Bush will provoke more.
Getting back to FCC thing.........The FCC has a lot more to concern themselves than 27 mhz. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 8:59 pm: |
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It'll all come out in the wash. |
bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 9:34 pm: |
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Sparkomatic im not a fan of him either but he IS our pres.
I was in 1968-1970 my older brother 1961-1964 my dad 1942-1946 and i agree that the last 2 are at best not up to what i would have hoped for. The FCC is overwelmed with new ways radio and comunication is being used and at the same time vastly under funded.
Hey TAZ where is Barry Goldwater now that we need him !
Bruce |
Insider
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 9:48 pm: |
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My prediction, by the year 2006, Clear Channel will own the Citizen's Band.
Here's how I think they'll use it.
A portion will be used as a back up for their voice tracking system (Prophet).
Another chunk will be used for private communications in and among station clusters in the same region.
Another chunk will be used for their automated ratings tracker. All 2006 model radios will be equiped with a transmitter that sends information about what station you're listening to, how often, for what duration and the location of the receiver. If they find you're listening to a college station or microbroadcaster, they'll send over a homoginization counselor who specializes in aleviating the affected person of the nasty conditon known as independant thought.
Whatever happens, I still have a hard time grasping the concept of buying and selling radio spectrum. What's next, is someone going to buy the rights to the sun? After all, it's nothing but extremely high frequency radio. |
Mr_Rf
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 10:58 pm: |
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Anyone who thinks this can't or won't be enforced should ask a truck driver who travels through a state that scanners, or scanning receivers or most 2 meter ham rigs are outlawed. The police search and take any radio gear that is programmed to public safety frequencies.
We out in CB Radio Free America should count our current blessings cause if the few idiots we call politicians who enact these laws continue we will all mow our grass on the same day, be forced to buy cable TV due to antenna restrictions and none of us we have pottys to poop on either!
The so often used term "reasonable accommidation" is a two way street...and whatever big brother deems reasonable is the rule of the day.
Think about it! |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 5:31 am: |
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Mr RF
If the person is a licensed HAM a local policeman CANNOT seeze a 2 meter radio. In fact the FCC is still the only authory where or not they like it. I work for the local sheriff office here and the only way that a member of this department would seeze any radio would be if you were openly using it to aid in a crime. If a licensed truck driver were to have his lawfull 2 meter radio seezed that cop had better have a very good reason. As for a scanner most states exsempt licensed HAMS if you know of a licensed ham driving a truck who has had his 2 meter radio seezed let me know of it i would like to find out why ?
Bruce |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 8:04 am: |
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Most states exsempt hams see kentucky stories below ...
Another Kentucky teenager has run afoul of authorities there who apparently are not thoroughly familiar with the Bluegrass State's scanner law (KRS 432.570), which contains a specific exemption for Amateur Radio operators. David Schaefer, KE4YBH, of Latonia, Kentucky, was stopped in mid-July by Covington, Kentucky, police for carrying a radio capable of scanning police frequencies. According to David's mother, the officer followed her son--who was on his bike and had his H-T and scanner on his belt--for five blocks before stopping him. ARRL Volunteer Counsel Harry Riggs Jr, KM4CS, reports that David, who just turned 14, got his scanner back after his uncle, John Schaefer, N4BIK, also of Latonia, contacted Covington Police and explained the statute to the assistant chief, William Dorsey, who happens to be N4BOP. The Kentucky scanner law also exempts tow-truck operators, rescue personnel and medical and hospital personnel. Police did not take David's Amateur Radio H-T, which he also was carrying at the time.
Meanwhile, a similar case involving Greg Godsey, KF4BDY, of Hopkinsville, Kentucky, still has not been completely resolved. A scheduled July 25 court date was canceled. He was arrested in May and charged with having a radio capable of scanning police frequencies. A judge subsequently dropped the charge and ordered his Radio Shack HTX-202 returned. The 17-year-old still faces charges of impersonating a public official and disorderly conduct that stemmed from his arrest on the scanner charge. |
707
| | Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:20 am: |
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insider-
I can guarantee Clear Channel won't be using 27mc to backup Prophet, or inter-market com or even the auto-ratings tracker. There are other plans for that.
As for homogenization...I've stated this before and will probably spend a lot of keyclicks stating it again in the future... when radio becomes profitable for privately owned stations again, then perhaps those eclectic format station owners won't be so quick to jump out of the game by selling their licenses off to Clear Channel. Remember, radio is advertiser driven. Advertisers are ratings driven. Ratings are listener driven. Listeners are driven by personal tastes. Personal tastes are driven by an intangible something that can not be quantified, canned and presented to the masses in a manner that is lucrative for shareholders. Oh...btw..our economy is driven by shareholders.. |
Insider
| | Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:43 pm: |
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Yep 707, that is the reality of it. Radio is a business. Though it's still a shame how the smaller stations have been down-sized. Voice tracking to me just doesn't sound like a good route. I've heard plenty of instances where the local station was sent the wrong feed or the feed wasn't updated and it just sounds bad.
True, the people who really seek original avant-garde content can find it. Most people use radio as background noise and are only half-listening at best: this phenominon is exemplified by the talk show caller.
Just to be fair, I used Clear Channel jokingly in the above post but they're not the only media company employing voice tracking and the like, they're just the most vocal and maybe that being the case, honest about it. They make mention of it on their website.
BTW I work part-time for a Clear Channel station. I guess the men in black will come and pay me a visit once this gets posted (ha, ha, ha). |
Weakeststation
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 8:45 am: |
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I noticed the word story in that url..
story: a fictitious tale, shorter and less elaborate than a novel... But anything is possible, It could be the way this band gets shut down... check out the f.c.c wants your info, posted above this one, thats informative too. |
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