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Galileo
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What if any are the differences betwen a RCI 2950, and a 2950DX.......Thanks, Tom Shaw
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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The DX version uses a surface mount board and the regular version uses the old style.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As bad as i distast SMT we are stuck with it
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CM 3885
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess so Bruce.
LOL well im sure you well remember when everything was going from tubes to transistors rignt? My grandfather was one guy that got out the the radio buisness when they started to do that back in the 1960s and early 1970s.. He stopped working on radios and TVs about 1982 or so for good when TV stopped using tubes..
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Weakeststation
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bottom line________ i think you will like the dx alot more.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CM.... your right i remember in electronics school in 63 a teacher telling us " this is a transistor a toy which one day they will find a use for" and in the ARMY in the late 60's most of our radios were tube ... but thats 40 years ago!

Weakest....... I like the good old days when you moved the catswisker across the glina crystal and lissened for that sweet music in thoes 2K headphones. I work on SMT ht's all day and sometimes the good old days would be a welcome change.As for the 2950 DX well i sold mine in 5 days but must addmit the 5054 dx is a very nice set as for the 2950 or DX i had both it just didnt work to my likeing on the mode i use. I settled on the m-03 alinco or a titan for fm and have no regrets in doing that.
Bruce
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Galileo
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any more opinions????
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ss8541
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bruce, you work on smt's all day and would rather have the standards back? i work with smt's all day also and feel the opposite. if you have all the smt components for a certain area, you can rebuild the whole area faster than you could troubleshoot and repair the exact same circuit made with standard components. if you don't have all the components, then the troubleshooting part can be tedious(i have done plenty of that).

galileo, the fact that the dx is smt alone makes it a better radio(physically anyway). smt's are less likely to fail, and stand up better to shock and vibration. each radio is also less effected by component lead lengths(there are none for smt's). the dx radios are also much more stable frequency wise than their non-dx predecessors.

the downside is that smt's -are- harder to troubleshoot(but not to replace) since there are no legs to pull up. you may also find that most of the techs working on these types of radios will not touch them with a 10ft soldering iron. they do not have the experience with smt's and are afraid that they may tear up a few radios to gain that experience(understandable). and this isn't the case either if you go about it logically. when i 1st started working with smt's, i was given a work station and put to work. no training in smt's at all, and no high speed smt soldering station. if i felt uncomfortable about something i asked or made a phone call. but that is the difference between business band radios and cb's. the manufactures of those don't mind working with you. galaxy is about the only company i know in this area of radio who also doesn't mind working with their dealers/servicers/customers. they have shown it on more than one forum.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 4:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SS..... HE HE HE you know im being just a bit playfull with words. SMT is the way to go except for being a bit harder to work with it has no real disavanges.We have here at the jail 800 ICOM's and Im the repair dept! No doubt they can be a pain but would you rather have a brick like a standard 146A (ive got 2 of them) Or a HT-200? Now there is a group i'm a member of who when things get bad i can regress in time with http://www.midnightscience.com
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Weakeststation
Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 8:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your right Bruce, this new age stuff is something for sure, i went from tube to solid state, now microchip... sometimes it's to much fun...
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 4:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Worse yet they are now working on several new geneations of new radios. In the last 30 years the HT's used at the jail have shrunk in half and have far more in them. By the time i retire im willing to bet they will be half again. SMT soon will look like the old point to point of the 40's but at least on the brite side we can look at them and think today was the good old days!
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Galileo
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 7:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess what I really want to know is which is the better radio for everyday use..Power output, Recieve quality, Stability.....Thanks for any answers....
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2600
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bottom line. The "DX" radio is less likely to suffer from "rotten soldering" types of trouble. SMT is just more reliable, on the whole. When it does break, it will cost more to fix. So far I haven't seen a big difference between them in day-to-day stability, receiver or transmitter performance.

There's an old rule that anything you do to make a manufactured product cheaper to build, also makes it more costly to take apart later. That's why it's so hard to find a VCR repair guy any more. If you passed a law that said "Any VCR sold in the USA must be built to be repaired" they would go back to costing $2000, like they did twenty years ago.

73
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the DX but the 2950 for a export radio is not shabby either
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bullet
Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Galileo,
ive owed 5 rci 2950's. i like all of them very much great radio's BUT the new "dx" versions have much better recieve and seem to be alittle higher in power than the older ones. they also have cleaner audio and just plain sound nice.
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gono
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi, i´m loooking for a 2950 user manual.
could anybody help me?
thanx
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

go to rangers web site
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Weakeststation
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have seen a watch that is also a frs radio, neat for sure, has the same range as regular frs radio's.... Wow is all i can say, my youngest wants me to get him one, and my grandaughter want one tooo..
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Phineas
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Galileo

First of all, the difference between the 2 radios is the 2950 is a 10 meter only radio, and he 2950DX has 10 and 12 meters. Both can be modified for CB/11Meter. The frequency range is broader on the 2950DX. I have heard of people opening it up all the way from 21mhz-32mhz.

The 2950DX is the superior radio in my opinion. You cant work on it like you can the older model, but over all its a better radio. The main down side that if you are just going to use it for CB/11meter, it is not a cheap solution.

Hope that helps.

Phineas
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Dx431
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gono, try this link


http://www.rangerusa.com/downloads.html
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Inspector
Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The CPU in the Dx is different from the one in the older 2950. A few of the keypad functions are therefore different. The CPU in the 2950DX has a "flaw" that alows you to trick it to cover 18.9MHz to 36MHz!