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ryan
Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

has anyone tried building one? i got plenty of space and will try it out if the matching is not too hard. ill tie it up with nylon rope
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de
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 8:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you want to make the truly awsome antenna and you have the space you might build a Resonant Rhombic Antenna.

Put 'Rhombic Antenna' in your search engine and you will fine a description. The details are too long to place here.

Or you can find it in the ARRL Antenna Book, and the ARRL Handbooks.

The Resonant Rhombic is the height, the king, of the wire anennas.

DE
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ryan
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, but i didnt ask for a wire antenna. im looking for something vertical with a lot of nut to it. im curious as to whether or not a bigazz vertical like this would work and how well
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bullet
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

5/8th produces the best gain when you go over that it becomes multi lobed and gain suffers.
as a rule for normal verticals
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bruce
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ryan not as well as a 5/8 wave
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CM 3885
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 2:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what you want is a CB verticle rignt not a ham? The old Avanti sigma 4 was a 7/8 wave. You can still get a remake of it if you check around.
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Mr_Rf
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the sigma was a 5/8wl?

7/8wl = 30ft.
5/8wl = 22ft

Anyway, if you have the space...an outstanding vertical array with healthy gain at lower freq.'s such at CB is Qty(4) phased 5/8wl verticals for just under 6.5dBi of real gain (omni) and 9 dBi directional phased.

This is the trick of big gun AM broadcast stations. The phasing can be shifted and create a directional pattern with a little relay work. This is similiar to the old "super scanner" antenna theory except they used 1/2wl dipoles and less than optinum spacing making for a comprimised gain.

Good Luck
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your right works like a champ but takes some doing!
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ryan
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what about 3/4 wave antennas. i hear they work even better than 5/8~. and its direct connect from what ive read
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CM 3885
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my 7/8 wave sigma 4 talks better than my other base antennas ive had and thats what matters...
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joker
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that sigma iv is a 3/4 wave antennae i have one & it works great
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Rob_Usa
Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 7:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do a search on a J-Pole. You will find the formulas and all the info you need. I built one a few weeks ago and it out-performed my Imax. Read the thread I started "J-pole outperformed my Imax 2000". If you're wanting something that works great and have to build yourself, you won't go wrong with this one.