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Alsworld
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:56 am: | 
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I've got to ask, how adaptable would a microphone, specifically the Heil Gold line or Classic microphones work on a standard 10 meter radio. Even more specific, how would it work with a President Lincoln?
Wiring looks easy but where the Lincoln states pin (x) is transmit, the Heil says wire color (4 wires) (a) is Gnd/Shield, wire (b) is Mic, wires (c) & (d) is PTT. I understand Push to talk, but is that the same as transmit? The Lincolns refer to it as Audio, Gnd/shield and transmit. Differing verbage but equal?
I guess to be basic about it, if adaptable, would it give that quality Broadcast sound out of this radio?
Looking for opinions. And yes, I already run the D104, just an interesting idea I can't get rid of after hearing one. Wow! those sound sweet.
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Barefoot
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 1:59 pm: |
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We run Kenwood MC23s mics on the Lincoln and they do a good job |
Kirk
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 5:17 pm: |
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Hey Alsworld....if you have some extra cash (?maybe?), try a Goldline with a W2IHY EQ. I use that set up on my TS-940...and i get a TON of compliments. |
Karatebutcher
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 7:46 pm: |
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Alsworld when you get your new mike I want your Astatic hand held, or I will trade it for the steel whip I was going to give you. |
Jellybean
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 7:52 pm: |
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Another way you might try is to buy the HC5 or HC4 element and replace the element in the stock mic, this works pretty well. I've put a HC5 in the Astatic 636 and it's an pretty good fit. I use it with my 2970. I've put the HC5 in my stock Lincoln mic as well. |
Sandbagger106
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:04 am: |
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Heil mics always sound too bassey (sp?) IMO. I favor a more treble response for communications, after all Astatics seem to punch through because they have that sharp freq. response. I've also found some stock mics do a pretty good job somtimes. To each his own I say. SB106. |
707
| | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 1:13 am: |
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The microphone debate will probably go on for the duration of this hobby. Some like it "hot" while others like it "mellow". If you are going to run "mellow", you'll need to run more power to cut through the same QRM than a lower power station running "hot" audio. Conversely, I find the "mellow" sound less fatiguing on long conversations. Nothing like a good studio mic running through an adjustable speech processor. I'd put a Sennheiser MD-421 up against any Big Three or Heil mic or element for about the same money. |
Alsworld
| | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:52 am: |
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Thanks to all. Yeah it's the mellow "easy to listen to" sound I heard that inspired this thread. I would not try to be the loudest by any means, just real clear, zero distortion, etc. I have not found that EQ Kirk mentioned but I'm only looking in ham catalogs and I bet it's more of a music related EQ. Hey, if it works...
I guess I'm trying to simulate that big ham radio sound as I learn more about speech processors on those big rigs. The cost is too high for me for one of those right now (the multi thousand $ radios), but maybe someday I'll end up with something more acceptable along the lines of a ICOM 706 MkIIG or Yaesu FT847. Those cover what frequencies I would like to expand into, and as I learn more on the audio sound now, can make the radio I choose sound even better.
Thank you all for your opinions.
Alsworld |
Highlander
| | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 3:09 pm: |
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Al,
I have run my Lincoln with a Shure 526D and an Astatic TUP-9 base with the 10-DA dynamic head. Both microphones make the Lincoln sound as good as any HF rig out there on SSB and FM. The FT-847 sounds great with the Yaesu MD100 desk mic in all modes but AM. I'm pretty sure the Lincoln would sound great with whatever flavor of Heil you wanted to try, but I don't think there's anything all that special about Heil. (other than they are well made and look nice / work well)
The ICOM 706 mark II I think requires an electret mic, so you might want to talk to your dealer about what mic would be best for that rig if you decide to buy one. I have heard a few on the air in different modes that sounded very nice, I think they were just using the stock mic. |
707
| | Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 3:47 pm: |
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Alsworld- one last note on audio
Just judging by what I've heard on HF, Kenwood has the best audio dollar for dollar in the present state of the art. The Big 3 radios are generally comparable in features for a given price range, but there is something about the Kenwood signature sound... Of course, you can always spend a bundle on a JRC.
That said, I've used studio mics and processors on much lesser radios and had very good signal reports. It's all about keeping it clean by not overdriving the radio and staying away from potential misalignments of critical SSB filtering in the transmitter.
I have heard several guys using EQs that are not set properly, but instead, set to maximize bass, and all they do is sound muffled. Keep in mind that in true radio broadcasting, the "smirk" curve is the most used mic EQ setting for that "friendly, mellow sound".
My two cents worth... With amateur radios, if you want the biggest bang for your buck, find a good clean used upper line radio rather than plunking down full retail on a lesser new model. |
Kirk
| | Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 9:35 pm: |
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Alsworld- www.w2ihy.com for EQ. I also agree with 707 about the 421, but they are about $250 (at least) last I checked. Great mic for as far as dynamics....prefer them over RE-20/27 personally [in TV Land], but again, like someone said....this could go on all day. Good luck in your search. |
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