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XLAXX
Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you were Dan Rather, would you feel good about shaking Saddam's hand?

I think journalism overstepped patriotism on 60 minutes tonight.

XLAXX
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Znut
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mixed feelings here. Consider the fact that Mr Rather is a guru of the elite, mainstream, liberal media. He did all but thumb his nose at Hussein. I listened and was a little surprised at the jist of some of Mr Rather's questions and comments. He was a little less Saddam freindly than I expected.
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Buck
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree X.....Anything to get a story!!!!Any decent American wouldnt even give it a thought to shake his hand....Ever think of how many problems would have been solved if he would have shot him instead of shook his hand???? Just my 2 cents worth.
Buck
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ryan
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that wouldve been sweet if he pulled out a rifle and picked him off and then told america that the wars over
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Skilletlicker
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i didnt make the effort to pick up the tv remote
and turn it on i have a couple of cds by spike jones that i would rather hear then hussein
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Mrhappy
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who watches Dan Blather anyway?,Another liberal media clown....
My time is to valuable to be wasted on such ANTI-AMERICAN drival...
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Weakeststation
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 7:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Some times we all need just a little bit of humor, take care guys and enjoy
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Xlaxx
Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 8:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I personally felt that all Dan Rather wanted to do was be the first person to talk with him,... anything for a story or headline! Why can't our government do the same thing?,.. and not some liberal reporter?

Rather became a "sympathizer". Almost to the extent of Jane Fonda's 'Hanoi Jane' during the Veitnam War. Anyway, just blowin some smoke for the anti-war people to revel in. We should've taken care of business in 1991.

OK, I'm stepping off the soapbox.

XLAXX
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Crafter
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now the Martin Sheen anti-war commercial.
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Barefoot
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 4:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did anyone hear Hank Williams Jr.s comment about Saddam ?
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Buck
Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 5:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No but Hank jr is one cool cat!!!
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Bigbob
Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was saddam wearing laytex on his hands with a mixture of DMSO and anthrax,ah but nobody was looking at their hands just their faces.This guy could go around infecting dozens of people this way and no one would suspect until it was to late.
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can't put Dan Rather in or anywhere near the same category as Hanoi Jane Fonda. Hanoi Jane got our POWs torured more savagely and killed because of her stunt......I have hated her ever since. Dan Rather didn't cause any harm and just got the Right Wing Nuts a little tweaked. I am no Liberal but blasting a decent guy like Dan Rather seems a little twisted.
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Xlaxx
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spark-

How is Dan Rather decent?

Rather provided a public forum for a war criminal. Read the papers, watch CNN. Rather made the public more sympathetic to a mass murderer. Please.

That's what I call 'harm',... harm to a great people and a great nation,... making our people 'second guess' themselves! We need UNITY not DIVISION. The pledge states,... "One nation, under God, indivisible,....". There's NO twist in this thinking 10-4?

Back on the soapbox and walkin the dog.

XLAXX
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea, someone needs to pull a jeraldo on him too. For those that dont know about jeraldo he posed as a volunteer at the okc bombing and got his nose broke resisting arrest. LOL !
I second what XLAXX said too !
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 8:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan Rather was not sympathetic to Hussein, I didn't see that to any degree. This Country has and will never be unified when dealing with the question of war.........as long as there are people on the left and people on the right this Country will never be unified on anything. I agree with most of what the President is doing but the Country was divided long before GWB took office.
Don't mention Riveria and Rather in the same sentence Geraldo changes his position as often as he changes his underwear and Rather holds his ground. I may not agree with Rather on most issues but I do think the Media Liberal Bias is a little exaggerated by the Conservatives.....I watch MSNBC, CNN, and Fox and bias is a matter of opinion.
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xlaxx
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spark-

If the bias is overexaggerated then why didn't Rather give Ari Fleischer a chance for rebuttal???
The media was playing a game. Is that not a double standard or what,... no Liberal stance here, come on Spark, you must agree??....

My definition of 'sympathetic', in my writings, deals with the fact that Rather and CBS provided Hussein with an opportunity to explain himself on national/international TV,... during primetime I might add. This was a case of "He said, She said". I just think we shouldn't be giving any free air time to a liar and genecidal maniac.

Rather seems to crave the spotlight for this type of controversial journalism as Crafter mentions about Geraldo Riveria. There was much 'hype' about this particular interview,... hey I pulled the D104 out of my mouth to watch too. What happened was that the interview just seemed to stir up more questions about "What is really going on in Iraq"? Colin Powell did his job defending the case at the United Nations, our Re-Con is the BEST in the world. GWB wants to take care of the problem NOW.

Why stir up more doubt among our great people?

Why no compliance with United Nations treaties?

Let's take care of business.

Hey, this has been fun, no flames here OK?... just making you and others think a little.

I'm steppin back to the side and will let others have the air.

XLAXX
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 3:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spark- Rather answers to his boss just like everybody else anything for a buck. For the story he would shake hands with BIN-LADEN.
As for journalism and media its bias dont ever think its not they report what there told too. I was in panama long before we were reported to be there trying to kill Noriega. Assasinations are cheaper in our lives and there's but thats a whole nother can of worms.
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Insider
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't see the interview, but I don't think it really changed anyones minds. Those who are in support of Bush's stance seem to be just as solidly based as before.

One local fella was telling me about how well Saddam spoke and how polite and courteous he was to Mr. Rather, and how much more elequant he was with words than President Bush.

My reply, I didn't see the interview, but no doubt Saddam was a very articulate and charasmitic speaker, in much the same vein as Hitler, Marx, Jim Jones, and many other deceptive and evil people throughout history. If you'd like to hear Saddam speak more often, I'll gladly chip in as much as I can for you to purchase a one way ticket to Iraq--I hear the airlines are practically giving away first class seats.

Yeah, Bush isn't the smartest person in the country, but most of us really aren't much brighter, let's be honest. How many of us out there would have the courage to go on TV and before a live audience and deliver a speach and be able to catch every flub, or better yet, not flub it up at all? I don't think I could... How many of us could handle or be willing to handle the daily breifings from secrateries, commanders, et al and unlike the rest of us, he has to read and absorb this material in a specific time frame.

Honestly, I can't Blame Rather for doing the interview. He's a news man. Getting an exclusive is all part of the business. Getting ratings for the network and ensuring your contract is renewed is just as important as well because the fact is TV is always looking for someone whos faster, whitteyer and dare I say, younger. His doing the interview didn't violate journalism ethics in and of itself. However, if he failed to ask the tough questions, correct blatant fabrications, lead or otherwise compose the interview to specifically put Saddam in a shining white light--that's a different story.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

give a lissen!

http://www.minibite.com/america/forgotten.htm