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Wolverine
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear that on average most CBers usually call it quits about 500 to 600 watts of power,PEP. The next group specializes in 8 pill to 16 pill amps with the occassional driver. Then there is the competition group, where reputations of the operator, amp or alternator builders depend on how many trophies are hard-won at the latest keydowns or shoot-outs. What are you guys running as far as power? how many of you out there suffer from this disease and for how long?? Is there a cure for this disease?? Has anyone out there escaped this Dibillatating malady? It's kinda like either quitting cigarettes or cutting down. I found my cure to be (guess what).... money, moolah, dead presidents, scratch, mail, grits, you know what mean??? If there are any other cures out there besides RF, feel free to share The info with the forum, "COPPER RULES"
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bruce
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The CURE is strong FCC inforcement with $10,000 fines for THINKING of having a liner! I would write more but got to go take my PROZAK...... HE HE
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Weakeststation
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 4:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

13,500.00 to be exact plus seizing ALL of your radio equipment, right down to the tower, even scanners....take care guys..
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Justin
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weakestation... It sounds like you are still paying that fine off
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Weakeststation
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 3:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, i read alot of the info that the fcc has on there web site..
LOL i tell ya some of it is mind boggling, i read about one case were the fcc went to court and the judge ordered them not to act until the fcc answered some constitunial question, so the fcc left the court and had a swat team raid a house along with u.s marshalls from the attorney generals offics and one cia agent..
the home owner had fully automatic weapons pressed agains there head...
hey i'll give you the link to read it your self...But this particlar article is not from the fcc, it is from a local news paper in florida somewere...
http://www.radio4all.org/news/frb_tampabust.html this is a incrediable article....
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bruce
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doug Brewer ??? Now as Paul Harvy would say here the rest of that story! Sorry weakeststation but I know him...He was well know here in tampabay... and he had lots of warning and had made it plain he would not allow the fcc to carry out any raid SO they showed up with force! This was not your joe six pack radio guy he lost a extra class ham license and a general radio telephone too. They took no chances and he was treated as any fellon would have been..... remember he was the one who made it plain .... i ll stop you.... The law is very clear you do not have the right to stop the fcc ...well you do .... he he he.... yea make them get a warrent not smart!
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Crafter
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea, better to just call it quits and realize your BURNT! Lay low for awhile and come up somewhere else. Moving helps.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats right run for them their hills!
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Weakeststation
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 4:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree on the hills for sure lol..... but as the story stated the fcc was told to stop until it answered the questons that the court had,and the fcc decided to do there own thing, after the federal judge ruled on it.... But putting a fully automatic weapon to some ones head because they are or are not operating the rado the way fcc sees fit, i think goes a little far.... But i agree, he knew he was burnt and he should of headed for those hills while he had a chance...
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live in oregon now lots of hills. Its standard SOP they dont want to be out gunned again. Just like the kid they sent back to cuba JULIAN same gear. Needed no but policy and procedure dictates.
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Patriot1
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 1:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Holding guns to a citizen head Because he refused to submit to NAZI tactics. I hope they try the same with me!!! I may go down but you can be sure I will TAKE a few with me
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Alsworld
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You wouldn't happen to be Unit ONE, The Patriot now would you?
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Buck
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 5:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The law is the law is the law!!!!! Doesn't matter if you are speeding or freebanding....Both are illegal. If I were to walk into someones house to serve a warrant you can bet that I would be at full draw.. Too many people that think like patriot1 out there. Im not saying that I have never broke any laws..Actually Ive done both of the aforementioned BUT im smart enough to know that it is the law and what Ive done is illegal and I will pay the consequences if caught.
Buck
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Weakeststation
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 5:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a few place here in the united states were it is against the law to spit on the sidewalk.. Imagine them getting the fully automatic p-9 stuck to there head because they too broke the law.. Some times i just don't get it.... take care..
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 6:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I work at a jail for the sheriff office and if the person being arested is deemed to be a danger like Doug was they will go in with FORCE now to thoes outside it looks like over kill BUT here in tampa bay we had 3 killed in one day BECAUSE they took pitty on a guy who had killed his boy in a gun misshap...... the guy was a vilont fellon who hated cops and killed 3 of them before he shot himself. SO unless you have been there ( im not a cop) it is a judgement call. Doug thumbed his nose at them and they took him down THEY TOOK EVERYTHING i have no pitty on him at all ..... NOTE this man could have taken THEM out but the show of force resulted in no stupid actions and no one hurt.
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Karatebutcher
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes are you the Patriot 1 on 27385 lsb, if so please advise me, I would like to comment on this, if you aren't I say hello.
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know I say snipe them from the trees then only the law breaker dies. Sure wish I could have got Noriega in my sites during just cause. One less in jail.
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Patriot1
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I WAS a COP and I quit because I was ordered to do things that I KNEW was WRONG!! I now am a cvil rights advocate and will fight to the last breath to fight things just like that!!!
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Crafter
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 1:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe in gun control too, you use two hands. Don't get me wrong I don't think they would make it in my house either. Now I use Big Game as my target and as good with my rifle as my bow.
I know everyone is against me inside the wire, were a cop doesn't.
This war is it needed, who knows lets do it get it over with enough of "The what if's, He said she said ". We always create our on monsters remember we put him in power during the Iran times. Just like Noriega in Panama, who's next.
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Weakeststation
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 4:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your still missing the point Bruce, dangerous or not, A FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERED THE F.C.C TO RESPOND TO CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS, BEFORE THEY COULD ACT.... My point Bruce is, were it is against the law to spit on the sidewalk, should the police put the guns to there head while writeing them a ticket because they are deeemed to be dangerous..
AFTER A FEDERAL JUDGES RULEING THE F.C.C VIOLATED THIS PERSONS RIGHTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF GUY HE IS, BUT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WILLINGLY VIOLATES ARE RIGHTS REGUARDLESS OF WHO'S RIGHTS, WE ALL ARE IN TROUBLE... His rights was violated because of the judges ruleing... Like i was saying i don't know the guy, but if they had obtained the PROPER warrents, i wouldn't have a problem with the whole thing, but since the GOVERNMENT broke the law to shut this guy down because he was not operating to their rules, i do not agree with it what so ever, don't agree because of the judges ruleing... Like i was saying if it was done legal, i wouldn't have no problems with them busting in and shoveing the gun in the guys face, they gotta do that with the warrents for there safety.. But like i was saying after a federal judge ruled on it, and the GOVERNMENT decided to do there own thing anyways, WE ALL ARE IN TROUBLE.. IT SHOWS THAT THE GOVERNMENT DON'T RESPECT THE LAW OR PEOPLES RIGHTS... If the guy breaks the law, im all for having him busted, but don't break his constituniol rights to do it.. There are legal ways to arrest people...
I don't know this guy, but i am VERY concerned there guy when the government is going to do what it wants when it wants.....

Im just trying to watch out for our rights.. Dure process is part of them..

Take there guys..
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Xlaxx
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 7:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Karate/Alsworld-
Who's this Patriot1 you guys are referring too????....

XLAXX
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting.....you almost sound like frezzerman .... most officers i work with are deeply involved with protecting cvil rights .... those of HONEST people
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

weekest station he WAS convicted and lost all licenses now if his rights were violated why did he lose even the appeal? .... ill see if i can find the story today
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well here is the fcc release its long very long


http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2001/da011489.html
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Karatebutcher
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

xlaxx he is a person who talks on the radio for endless hours non stop and preaches his patrotic talk non stop with lots of power, he is endless, he just keeps on and on, he is around 85 years old and doesn't take his medicine.27385 lsb
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XLAXX
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Karate-
Thanks for the info. I think I have heard him before ranting about Jesus and the anti-christ. Seems to make quacks out of true God-fearing people. Too bad.

Bruce-
That was a good link. I like how he still remains "cavalier-like". Much like Patriot1 does, there's always one rotten apple in the bunch, making it worse for everybody else. Too bad.

XLAXX
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Crafter
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is policy for most law enforcement during a raid to have automatic weapons and at the ready. Gun to the head I would think not COVER POSITION yes. You are in COVER till given recover command. Nothing wrong with it as far as everyone has discribed but with anything it subject to review.
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Weakeststation
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, according to what i am reading with that link is that the guy, had a chance to respond and he did not go to the hearing therfore the case pending against him proceeded....

And by what i am reading is after this insident were they raided his house, he later set up another 2 unliscened radio station..

I also notice that this date is after the orginal raid was conducted, were the federal judge ordered them not to proceed until the fcc answered a few questions...

By what i see in this link is this person has received his due process, in 2001.. But his rights were still violated a few years early when the fcc acted against him after the judges ruleig, but if between the ruling and the raid if the judge said go ahead, im all for that..

But this document surly shows that in 2001 his rights were not violated in anyway, and im all for that 100%, the only time im not for it is when (YOU,ME ANYBODY) our rights are violated WHITHOUT DUE process... Then i have a major problem with it,AS WE ALL SHOULD TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR RIGHTS... But this 2001 notice is ok with me because as many can see in this document, he had his due process...


Hey EXLAX, Who might you be refering to?? You got me wondering...

Crafter, it is very NESSCARY to cover during a raid, the public servents doesn't have any idea if someone is going to jump out and shoot them.. The need to follow the procedures for there safety MUST be followed....

As long as people get there due process, im for it, but when due process is violated then i gotta a problem..

Its been fun guys, talk to you later...

Before i go, have you guys heard yet that the F.C.C has filed a petition to get your info when you buy any kind of radio equipment?? Just wondering, thats a good story as well..
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Alsworld
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 9:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weakeststation, if I understand it correctly, someone filed a petition for the FCC to begin getting all radio operators information when they buy a radio. I think it was not the FCC's doing or idea, but petitioned for them to do that.

I don't foresee that being realistic as of now. If radio, be it ham or CB, had been used as an act of terror against the US, then it might have some pull and get some attention. This was just one radio operators letter trying to request the FCC to do this (if I understand it correctly). That's all.

Same reason I don't see the FCC aggresively hunting down illegal CB'rs. Lack of man power and the fact it doesn't really affect the vast majority of the American public negatively. Nobody gets hurt, doesn't kill, injury, maim or even threaten anyone. Now if those that run power and expanded channels would just stay away from the ham bands, heck even the ham operators would probably care less and leave the CB'rs alone.

Just my thoughts though. Doesn't mean they're right:)

Alsworld
799 North West Florida
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOT TRUE i know the guy in ohio who filed it..... we exchanged parts and info on regency radios for years the FCC only asigned a docket number to it it is NOT a FCC proposal.
Doug was active is several clubs that i belong to he got what he deserved the local radio and TV people followed it closley WTVT tv tampa had a HAM who reported this story as a fellow ham i know him too. Sorry he KNEW what he was doing he was warned several times he got caught red handed case closed.
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Xlaxx
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weakeststation-

My first post refers to Patriot1. I was not certain of who he was until Karatebutcher made it clearer for me.

My second post refers to:
IV. "Conclusions Under the Law", #21 ..."cavalier disregard".

Both individuals don't/didn't care about the law and what actions they both do/did. Basically, my point is that there are indviduals that give the hobby of CB/Ham radio and in Patriot1's case, (religion) a bad rap OR they have a continued, blatant disregard for regulations, in so much that they just have to keep on doing it without a fleeting thought of how it effects others. The thread is entitled "The More Power Syndrome", I would call it a disease. Would you want to follow the ways of Jesus after hearing someone babble about it with 2500W all day long, making no real sense?

Not a sermon, just a thought, heheheehehehe
XLAXX
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Bigbob
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think to protect your but and everyone elses is DON'T MAKE WAVES,sounds simple to me.I think we should change the subject or the moderator is gonna put all this in the political part of the forum,like he did the last time,I mean c'mon guys we've been told before.
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 6:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somehow I thought the FCC had much more important things to do than going after CBers.
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Alsworld
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Bigbob on this one. I know a lot of us like to debate the issues, but arguing will fire up the Forum Master and he/she doesn't need that. Neither do we.

I do wish to point something out though concerning Patriot1. I just ASK if he/she might be the one and same Unit One, the Patriot I hear a lot on 38LSB. I never got an answer. It might be a whole different person. I wasn't trying to throw spears his/her way, I was just curious.

Alsworld
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree and posted my next in hot off the press
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Weakeststation
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok guys here you go, this is a government link is from the fcc, it is in pdf format, this is the petition filed by the f.c.c, please note it says radio equipment,(wonder if they mean walkie talkie's too??)

Well here is the link and it makes for some good reading..It will load slow so be patient..
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6513398853 Like i was saying it does make for good reading...
take care guys, im back out..
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I told you DALE look at the partinoner not the FCC filed it ive know dale for years he owns/runs a 2 way shop and is a stickler for the law
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CM 3885
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why isnt this post in the legal CB and ham vs Cbers section???
It doesnt belong on the open forum because all its gonna do is get everyone fired up...
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Buck
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some of it is....read a couple posts up and Bruce wrote that his next post is in "hot off the press"
Open forum is just as good of place for it as any....Its just good discussion
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Xlaxx
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 9:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well the thread did start out as a ligitimate one, then Bruce forgot to take his Prozac and inadvertantly mentioned something about the FCC and WHAM! BAM! SLAP! KAPOWWW!,... all he## breaks loose!

Bruce,... take your medicine! LOL

Just kidding Bruce! No flames intended!hehehehehe

XLAXX
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Weakeststation
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 7:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cmm3885, it says open forum, any topic....
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Weakeststation
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 7:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What medicne, Preperation H..... lol, Just jokeing bro....
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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know what it says... It just seems out of place on here and should be on the forums for CB VS Ham and leagal stuff..
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Insider
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine Wrote:

I hear that on average most CBers usually call it quits about 500 to 600 watts of power,PEP. The next group specializes in 8 pill to 16 pill amps with the occassional driver. Then there is the competition group, where reputations of the operator, amp or alternator builders depend on how many trophies are hard-won at the latest keydowns or shoot-outs. What are you guys running as far as power? how many of you out there suffer from this disease and for how long?? Is there a cure for this disease?? Has anyone out there escaped this Dibillatating malady? It's kinda like either quitting cigarettes or cutting down. I found my cure to be (guess what).... money, moolah, dead presidents, scratch, mail, grits, you know what mean??? If there are any other cures out there besides RF, feel free to share The info with the forum, "COPPER RULES"
------------------------------------------

I've rune about 100 watts PEP tops, usually less since most my talking is at night and everyone's local.

I guess I've escaped the malady for now at least. Amplifiers don't seem that appealing to me. I always believed that CB should allow a nice 20 or so watt carrier with 80 watts PEP on AM 80 watts PEP sideband. That's good power, nice local saturation without being overly obturisive yet, enough to have some DX fun as well.

I know some folks who have the big equipment, seems there's always a technical issue with it.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 7:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After 80 MG of PROZAC i dont care what any of you say about me ...... HE HE HE
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Xlaxx
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce-
You crack me up!

XLAXX
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Hoskinmage
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry to but in but i was wondering if anyone knows anything about the guy that calls him self catalic man? i know that im in ky. and i seam to here him all the time and i was wondering how he gets away with running all that power? it seams to me that if the f.c.c was going to bust anyone that he would be the one. he offers a shuttle service across the border and says that he will take them to any clubs that they wanted to go to.
crybaby in ky.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the only way he will get caught is if he steps on the wrong person.... as for shuttle service i guess your talking about drinking.... i hope
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Wolverine
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 2:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my humble opinion, I believe that FCC fines are definite cure for this disease. I also believe that because of man power shortages, the FCC picks his targets carefully to gain the maximum intimidation factor for other "would be" or probable violaters within ear shot, or the area where the bust occurred. If it's a hi- profile case such as interfering with airport tower to jumbo jet communications, then that's all the more "Bang for the Buck", since the media's job is to inflate or exaggerate a story for maximum tv viewership or tabloid readership. In the FCC's eyes, if you violate a mandate, or protocol of operator rules and guidelines, the hapless CB/Ham public will feel the full scope ot their governmental and jurisdictional powers. In the name of a fun hobby, you are now suspect. like it or not, if the Fcc did have the manpower, all it would take is a handful of "Snitches", to inform then the dates, times, and locales, of all shoot-outs, keydowns, or jamboree's that will occur every month nationwide from state to state. Then it would be, "A Shark Feeding Frenzy". All illegal equipment would be seized, and fines levied for exceeding legal power limits by kilowatts. But, as Alsworld stated in a prior post, and he's right, CB does not affect the vast american public in a negative way, nor do they have the manpower (Unless you got caught) to enforce their dictates. Period.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 7:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine..

I can see it now SPYS CAUGHT BY FCC ! YEP that would make someone look good..... thoes no good freebanding, shootout, commy pinko, lawbraking bow to the east and pray to mecca SPYS! SIEZE thoes radios and melt them down. Wow it felt good to get that out....... i know take your meds
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de
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE Wolfie....

I agree that the problem for serious violations is to hit them in the wallet. BUT, the FCC has this nasty habbit of changing their minds when a fine is imposed.

Rather than collect the 10 grand fine in cash, home, all personal property and all future earnings, they let the guy off simply because he is poor. They do not make an object lesson out of him.

Now what kind of lesson is that to the body of users. Just say you are poor and you get off almost scott free?
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Weakeststation
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cadillac man is a radio plague who is giving channel 19 a headache, then he tells them to go to channel 31 and gives them a headache as well, with his adverising that Trip to mexico... Alot of people, especialy the locals there are realy up set whith him, i have been told he splatters the local area real bad.. By what i've been told, he has a cobra 20 st, with a 60012b x-force.. He is makeing alot of people mad at him.. Im sure you noticed that there Hoskinmage, buy what i've been hearing the fcc has receiver alot of complaints on this guy.. Im sure you have been hearing him every day for the last 3 years as i have... He advertised on 19 then sends them to 31.. Ok there guy, im back out of here, remember, a shot before, a shot after, and evertthing in between:)
Take care from the F.C.C undercover agent LOL...
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CM 3885
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 1:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys that go out of their way to cause trouble are the ones id like to see go bye bye.. There are a lot of guys that like to get on CH 19 and other channels were there are people talking and cause problems and i dont get why they do that! Mental illness?? Who knows. The truckers are only there to get info and to ocasionally find someone to talk to due to boredom. They are a goup of people that are only trying to make a living like most everyone else.. These clowns that get on and cause trouble clearly have issues. Most of them are either not working, (read, they choose NOT to work and live off of wellfare!)dropped out of high school at an early age, are on sort of public assistance, have a alcohol, drug, or mental problem and to try to make themselves feel better they take out their frustrations on everyone else!!
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Bigbob
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why don't you just get some pins(safety pins,straight pins,hat pins,etc.)and pay him a visit,when he's not around and introduce his coax to your pins,he he.
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Wolverine
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 3:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know that ham radio operators love to add feathers to their caps, or notches on their belts, when it comes to reporting or "snitching" on CB operators that stray into 10 meters, or any other meters for that matter. They succeed by hiding in the bushes and taping your self incriminating conversations for uncle charlie, and that's a fact. But, I'm bewildered about this hi-powered Mr. Cadillac man, AKA, The cb operator everyone loves to hate. I reinterate. Fcc manpower shortage??? Or could it be, like what all law enforcement institutions have, what is called a "Code of Silence".
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine .....

What are you saying? If cadillac man is on CB recking havic with CB'ers what intrest would he be to the hams ...... zero nada .... As for tapeing is IS allowed as a cb user you are not covered by sec. 605 SO anything you say can be used against you. NOW is he strays on to 10 meters THEN he will bet noticed.... and should be.
I dont know of any hams who go looking for cb abusers ..... much less time to go snitch on them and if i would TAKE the time someone has forced me to do so So stating "They succeed by hiding in the bushes and taping your self incriminating conversations for uncle charlie, and that's a fact. " is the same as saying ALL cbers are illegal or stupid. I have been aproched by local CB users fed up with the junk but they had the goods on the person and turned it over to the FCC THEMSELVES.
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CM 3885
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think in my area the cops have better things to do than worry about some CBer going through someones TV set.. Ive never heard of one single complaint in my area (a very small rural area) handed over to the cops over interference problems.. Guess we are just lucky but the operators here were i (there are only a select few anymore) live are a pretty good bunch og guys that make a note not to cause problems . :-)
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Bigbob
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back in the mid 60s a man was creating hate and discontent with an echo box and an rf amp and foul language,needless to say the locals found his station,pinned his coax and he was never heard from again,ever.There was a rumor of an impending blanket-party if he was.Fact was one recorded his antics and threatened to send it to fcc,as they say that was all she wrote.
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Wolverine
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 4:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, I gather, or take it that you're also a ham operator. Don't read more into my thread, than what it states. In california, Daly city, and San Francisco to be exact, I have neighbors who are hams who thrive on scuttling, or pinning CBer's coax for running power, expressing viewpoints, or just for transmitting(Existing). Fortunately when the hams come down to 11 meters to ignite the cb/ham wars, by hazing, hunting, or harassing the local cb operators, I go to another channel, or turn the ol uniden off. I'm also glad that I run a well-tuned "Mobile" and not a "Base". I'm not saying "All CBer's are illegal or stupid".Out here, we are the prey, and they are the predators, as they(the hams)say it's all in fun (HELLO). Either way, Cadillac Man must have 9 lives, angellic guardian angels, or a voodoo priest, because his days of ratchet jawing or advertising his "wares" on the airwaves doesn't appear to be "Numbered" or limited to me. "More Power To Those That Get Away"!!
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

woverine

If you have knolege that they are doing this send it to ..... rholling@fcc.gov he is in charge of inforcement for ham/cb radio and has stated EXACTLY what you are saying is what he would like to stop. ZERO tolerance for illeagal ham use of CB is his goal and you will if you send good documentation get a responce. ALSO GET HIS CALL LETTERS ! Here in tampabay we have a problem with the 146.64 repeater and jammers ..... most are cb'ers but not all its only a matter of time till the FCC comes here and cleans house ....... as for being a ham ..... well lots of people who know me would aggree with you on that.
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Wolverine
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 3:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Bruce. Maybe we can finally level the playing field out here in Cali. If for nothing else, peace of mind.
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bruce
Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 7:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wolverine like i said the FCC will go after HAMS using CB since they feel they should know better.

Mr. F******** M****
243*******
******* NY 114****


RE: Warning Notice--Unlicensed Radio Operation
Amateur Radio KB2***


Dear Mr. M***


Monitoring information before the Commission indicates that you have been operating radio-transmitting equipment without a license on 26.540 MHz.


Please be advised that operation of radio transmitting equipment without a license is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 301. Such operation will subject you to fine or imprisonment, as well as an in rem seizure of radio transmitting equipment, in cooperation with the United States Attorney for your jurisdiction. Fines normally range from $7,500 to $10,000.


You are requested to contact me at 7**-***-**** to discuss this matter.
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Bman02
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 3:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Alsorld Hes got to be the same patriot1 from 38lsb.This guys crazy!!I hear him all the time out here in Arizona preaching on and on about how terrible the government is and how big brother is going to take 11 meter away soon.He goes on for hours clogging up the frequency when people are trying to dx-I just heard him here a few hours ago.