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CM 3885
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2003 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone know if Coppers sells insulators for guy lines preferrable made from crockery or ceramics?
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Skilletlicker
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 6:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if copper doesnt sell them, then try
www.tubesandmore.com ,they also have a good
selection of new and used tubes for any one who
needs tubes a very relibel co.
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Allagator
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey CM 3885 Your local hardware store like rualking or a tractor supply store shoud have them i got mine at the lumber yard here in town !!
hope this helps !!


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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL i checked ALL my local hardware stores and NONE of them had them. In fact my Ace manager flat out told me that "no one uses them things anymore." So all in all i went to 6 different place and none had them or they had the huge electrical kind that you use to attach power lines to the side of a building. I called a CB shop that i know that is about 30 miles away and he had them! YEHAWW! The guy always seems to have stuff that no one else has.:-) (Also saw a very sweet Robyn SB 520D there for sale but i had to help myself from buying it!) LOL But i need at least 5 more to complete my project. What im doing is breaking up my guylines into uneven lenths to help keep them from acting as another element for my beams..
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Crafter
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 3:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Same as insulators for electric fences.
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Buck
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 5:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try your local farm and fleet store. Go to the fence section and you will find what you are looking for
Buck
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Stepchild
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 8:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What if you insulated the guy from the tower and the tie post,that way the guy isn't touching anything.Wouldn't that work???
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CM 3885
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats kinda what im wanting to do.
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de
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Re Step c....

It used to be that the old radio guys used to break up their guy lines into non-resonant lengths to reduce the interaction/linkages between the signal comming off the antenna and the guy lines.

Now days they have non metalic guy lines that do not require this. But it is not inexpensive. I would imagine that the rascle is using the older metal guy wire method.
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CM 3885
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No huh uh im using clothesline wires...
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Viking
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use clothes line wire for guying my Antron 99 on 2 top-rail sections of fence on a Radio Shack tripod base. Works great!
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Stepchild
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 8:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On my a99 and 40' push-up,I guyed it with nylon string about the size of 12 ga wire.It's very very strong and I've used the same string for 6yrs.Although the next time it goes I'll replace it.
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de
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 8:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE CM....

If you are going to put up a tower do not use anything but the proper guy line cables as recommended by the towers manufacturer. And make the base of the tower per the towers manufacturer at a minimum.

If you are going to put up a telescopic pole why use guy wires at all. Until recently I had a 40 ft heavy duty telescopic pole up and used only nylon rope as guy lines/ 3/8 inch sold weave nylon rope. They got a bit green looking after 10 years but they did not rot nor did they break. What brought the antennas down was the Last Hurricane causing a huge branch to fall on the guy ropes causing the POLE to bend. Pretty strong stuff after being up over 10 years.

PLUS nylon does not need insulators. It is an insulator.
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CM 3885
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My tower has been up over 10 years but from time to time i do some routine maintenace to the antenna, tower and the guys lines to keep everything top top cond. The tower is a American tower that you mount on a house for a TV antenna(and what i have on it more than likely is NOT what the manufacturer reccomends!! LOL!!) but i have my raker mounted on the top and it hasnt fallen down yet and i dont ever see it doing that!! LOL

BTW we are getting off subject anyways because i just wanted to know were i can get a few insulators not a lecture on guy line and tower safety!
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de
Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE cm

This place is a treasure trove of knowledge. All you have to do is ask one little thing and a deluge of informtion will begin to flow. ;-)
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CM 3885
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 1:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think ill try one more local place(a local ham/electronics shop) that i know of but im pretty sure the ones he sells are the hard plastic ones but i can live with them if i cannot find the ceramic ones.. Sorry if i was coming off as rude. I Apologise.
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Stepchild
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CM 3885,I don't know about your neck of the woods but there's a place were I live called Whole Sale Electric Supply(WES)They are a industrial electrical supply and they carry everything.You might try a place like that or try your local electric company were you get your electricity from.Hope this helps.
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Moderator558
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.surplussales.com/Antennas/Antennasmain.html
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Mr_Cougar79
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

now i dont live in the USA but have u got a farming store near u they'll have insulators for electric fences that will do the job lol....
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CM 3885
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those donutty looking things? Yeah i know were i cna get them but i think i have a line(no pun intended) on some regular CB/HAM kind...