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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 1:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was on my way home from work today(yes i work saturdays) and i had my CB on CH 7 and i was dismayed to hear mostly profanity. Seems someone was all bent out of shape because someone called somebody a bad name.. I counted the "F" word ussed a total of 27 times in a 5 minute timeframe.. Seems anymore around here the last real local yak yak channel is only used by some trashy people that only like to start stuff and cause hate and discontent. Is it this way all over?
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Barefoot
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can't listen to the garbage(19)cnannel in this area. The truckers can't get through one sentence without using the F word. the sad thing is the same jerks would talk like that to you in person. P.S. I have to work Saturdays also, thats enough to make you talk that way.
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 8:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jurks are Jurks if they are on 11 , 75, 40 or 20 meters they still are jurks sometimes on wishes that the FCC would do its job .... then realty kicks in and you remember that they never will... I opose illeagal use of force to solve problems but some of these people REALY push my limits. There is little reason to ack the way some of these people do except they have a need to be wanted and get what they want by anoying others.... AKA sick puppys.
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Sandbagger106
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm afraid so, I spend less and less time on the CB band for that reason. People (not all) seem to relish in being rude and nasty and won't talk to you unless you are part of their group. It's no wonder lots of people leave the hobby all together or move along to ham radio. I think it's a mirror of the way society is, not a CB thing, folks don't seem to be as nice as they once were. OK, speech over and I'm getting off my soap box now. sb106.
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Barracuda
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CM_3885,
It's certainly that way here in NYC. Spin the dial and take your chances. What annoys me the most is the folks that seem to go out of their way to include profanity in their speech as if it's some damn game for which they get points. Now, I've been known to use such words in my casual conversation with friends, but am always very mindful of the audience in earshot, and never use such language in public forums. I think that, in some cases, the folks who use profanity on the radio have forgotten that they are not in a private forum.
I have asked folks to watch their language on the radio many times, usually because on of my sons was listening with me in the mobil. The majority of the time the response is some version of "if you don't like it don't listen" To which I have but one thing to say, "^%^(**&%^%$&&**&^%$^$&#%&_(*^$"

Barracuda
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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well were i live (suprisingly im from a very rural area in the midwest!) there actulally has been fights over the air that have escalated into real fights and one time someone was killed(murdered) because of a fight on the CB radio :-O !!!!!!!!! I remind myself "its just a radio you can turn it off" but anymoire i dont enjoy CB like i once did when all my buds were on the air and most of the people that are out there id much rather not talk to them becasue they are NOT friendly at all. I tend to study peoples social and ethical habits and i tend to notice the ones that cause the problems all seem to have some sort of problem which include they either never finished school(high school drop out at an early age) have a drug or alcohol problem, are on some sort of public assistance(welfare or disability) or were raised in an family enviroment that was violent or abusive, or they cant keep employment due to some sort of mental, atitude, or physical problem. So they take out their problems over the air because they seem to think it will make them feel better by making everyone else feel miserable. Well im off the box for now..
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Alsworld
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 5:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am one of the lucky ones I guess. There are lots of us here in my part of Florida where we talk local quite a bit. None of us are big cursers (on the radio) but sometimes it does come out. But it's not like what you describe. Most of the nastiness we hear comes from the skip. Losers are my only name for them I as think it fits best. I don't like hearing them but I'm not giving up MY hobby for some idiot.

Us locals are spread out pretty far and have unique ways of handling those one-in-a-while idiots that try to provoke the garbage. We all know each other from the various channels, and there are many channels who have there own group so-to-speak, but each of us can wander around the band and receive a welcome hello. Those trouble makers here are dealt with and usually don't repeat their mistake again, although they are always welcome to come back real friendly like. Lots of males, females, grandfathers/grandmothers and some kids around here on the radio. We all protect each other to keep radio what it used to be. Truckers usually have some foul mouths but don't start trouble, just wanting to say hello.

Maybe you can say we still set the example, except sometimes when everyone fires up the amps to squash the idiot. Threaten one of the oldtimers here and the posse rolls via cell phones and an alternate channel. It's much like fishing, they troll for an arguement which they don't get, so they get nasty. Then they continue to cry for antention using all the threats and profanity you can imagine until they're caught....by the locals here. Wow, no mercy.

Like the Duke once said, "Life is hard, but it's even harder when you're stupid".

Give up my hobby for an idiot or two??? Heck no. Just take care of the problem (not that I would ever suggest violence) but sometimes the real stupid ones get exactly what they ask for on the air, but I guess they didn't plan on someone taking them up on their offer.

Seems to me there is no reason why this stuff should have to occur, and none of the locals around here cause it, but they do deal with it with a stiff upper lip and usually a boat anchor and chain. Makes quite a mess as the radio (amp if applicable)and half the dash goes dragging away behind a pickup truck.

Alsworld
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Weakeststation
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is a everyday occurance here in Saginaw, Michigan.... Some people are meant not to have a radio, and there are plenty here... Even if you try to get them to settle down after explaininng, hey i got grandKids around here...
it's f this and f that.. Even many other things in deatail as well, i hate to say it, but i have to wear headphones while listining to the radio.. For one reason only, you don't know when the IDIOTS (thats to nice) are going to go to this channel and start the same BS... Being able to count the F word 27 times in five minutes is a low number here, usualy 27 times in 2-3 minutes...

What can be done??? The F.C.C isn't interested in coming here for cb nonsence..
Alot of us beleive profanity should not ever be used on the radio...

A excellent topic you picked for sure..

and the debate continues...
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CM 3885
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although i do slip from time to time with an occasional word here and there i do watch what i say but i never use the F word because i hate to hear it over the air. I guess some people weak of mind seem to think it is manly and cool to cuss every other word on the radio but im better than that. CH 7 around is called the "losers channel" because well, thats about all that talks on that channel it seems!!
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ryan
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one of the most beautiful things about CB radio is it is the only slice of radio spectrum that the american people pretty much have control of. The FCC comes in and scrapes a little scum off the surface every now and then but they are so understaffed and underfunded that they pose no real threat to CB operators that stay off of things like HAM bands. now i might say the occasional swear here and there but i know where the line is drawn where it just becomes bad taste. its great that theres no censorship that happens over the air like in so many other public and private forums like this one here. here in CT the overall language is not that bad. i dont have a large group of crazy CB hicks coming to rip apart my equipment everytime i slip something over the air, nor would i want to have that. other things should be considered too like the time of day or night you operate and if theres and DX. i operate on 17 after 10PM most of the time and most everyones kids are in bed by then.

if you slip one of the big 5 every now and then, i have no problem with it. just know how to carry yourself over the air and dont be a total chode
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anon
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm a ham and don't really talk on the cb. The guys here in town (Bay City) like to think their nice, but are extremely rude. I've heard them talk about antennas and electronics and have no idea what they were talking about. Cussing at new people because their radio is too quiet or it's their first time using a radio. The ask questions and they treat the new guy like an idiot.
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Crafter
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ALSWORLD, RYAN, BRUCE, Im with ya all the way...I remember the Power wars in Lawton wasnt a pretty site have been hit more than once but usually just made me mad. Then its on! I know I've used curse words before, not thinking about it but I think most CB'rs try not to and you cant blame it all on the truckers theres bad apples in every hobby cb and ham are not exempt. Good topic keep it up !! Crafter
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CM 3885
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 1:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny thing is were i live it is pretty rural(most towns population under 10,000) and youd not expect to see and hear what i do. A few years ago there was a huge fight over the CB and 3 people were jailed and one was later found MURDERED(sp?) of all things! This was all over a simple bad word thrown at a dudes G/F.. Sheesh!! I talk to a few good guys ojn the air but they are not local as in 5 miles away but they live up to 50 miles away and the only way i can hear and talk to them is if i move my beams into the north.. All the other so called locals that live near me are white trash jerks that seem to only cause hate and discontent... Makes a diehard CB guy like me want to go ham.....
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 7:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hummmmm did i hear you say go HAM ????? Makes a die hard ham like me want to buy you THE BOOK! ..........Prase the study guide cm is a studying! HE HE HE
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Simon
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happens in oZ too or it did when I was last there. I dont curse much but because I know I do when somebody does something stu[id when driving its the one reason Ive never used the VOX on my ham radios in the mobile.

BTW I work Saturdays and Sundays - ther hotel/resteraunts busiest days.
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Crafter
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I hate is to use my call on my work radio !!
OPPS !
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Midnitexpress
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats all I here on 19, is f that and f this. I live 5 miles away from I-81 30 miles noth of Syracuse NY. And If I go to a different channel. I get crossed constantly. So my solution, on comes the MACO! That drives them nuts
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

crafter we have all done that!
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Weakeststation
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your close to me anon, you know how bad it is, day in and day out.. Sometimes i wonder if the f.c.c. should set up a sub station here in the here in the mid-sag-bay-flint area, they sure could curve the ABBUSE....
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Leadfoot
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yup it's bad PRACTICALLY everywhere anymore...Ohio has a "few" bad apples, it seems that it has caused a drop in am use here in my home town as well. it seems useless to even bother turning the radio on anymore
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anon
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just avoid the cb band altogether. I had a cb and it was motivation to get my ham license.
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lralph
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 3:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

San Diego area....if you're a trucker you better have a thick skin when you go to channel 19 for some local information. There are some of the most rude people ever to hold a microphone here.
I don't know if it's the change in society or what, but some days they're so hostile that you don't even want to key up. I gave someone some local information one day and got reamed out by some idiot for helping the guy. Figured he didn't even deserve an answer from me so I didn't bother telling him about his parentage. Other channels out here are segregated into ethnic channels that are pretty much taboo also. Life in the big city sure ain't what it's cracked up to be.....hmmmmm, got some property in Bull Shoals, Arkansas that's lookin' pretty good.
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thelowerband
Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 7:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Orion
Posted on Monday, May 26, 2003 - 6:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 11-meter is a band of informality and chaos. Personally I get a kick out of it's nastiness at times. Licensed bands are sedate and civilized. Sure that's fine, but like cable channels of porn and violence we as adults have the option to switch off the family viewing and go to them. When you go to the 11 it's understood anything goes even though it's often classless. Cromag operator's serve their purpose in that they can be entertaining, strings easily pulled and often deliver witty albeit nasty monitoring. How many of us looked at that voice changer and robot option on radios and accesories and didn't feel the devil in him "oooh, that I gotta have". CB means "Constant Bull**it" and it's anarchy is fine with me so long as it's understood and not taken seriously. Well, that's my opinion. As far as cursing, I'm not one to use it often. This way when I do I really felt like I let something go. Ever notice how a constant curser must say an infinite string of them when mad and still feels the anger inside?
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Rightwing
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alot of these guys shoulda had their mouth`s washed out with soap when they were growing up. if i ever used profanity or a swear word it was a guaranteed slap across the mouth by my folks. no if`s and`s about it. it also shows a lack of breeding and class.
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CM 3885
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 1:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

10-04!!!! Rightwing! Problem is too many take this radio fighting stuff too far. Especially when there is someone that actually gets in a serious fight(and yes in my area there was someone shot to death and was found later in his car..) and someone gets hurt.. I live in a pretty rural area but there is some serious things that do go on.. Too many red necks, hillbilly white trash, and welfare recipients bashing heads...
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Rightwing
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well ,like i said before. what do you expect from people with no respect or regard for anyone? funny thing, anyone ever remember your mom or dad telling you to go get the switch because you swore at or disrespected someone? especially an older person? lol.i sure as hell do and god help you if it was a litlle switch cuz he`d go get it and you got it and got it good.lol.
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CM 3885
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 1:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL i sure remeber that!! But my mom (my dad was never hardley home so i grew up pretty much with mom) always used a plastic fly swatter or even worse a section of that extruded plastic hot wheels race track!! OWWWW! That always left a nasty welt for a few days on the back of the legs!!!
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Jasper009
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah we get the same, seems folks can't talk without cussing.
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Pluto
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CM 3885, I remember the dreaded hot wheels track...depending on which side was used, it made some dual racing stripes on the skin...definately taught me to mind my manners.
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Xlaxx
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 9:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CM 3885-
I bet if you call them out on their cursing and profanity by asking what their number or call sign is,... you might be successful at curtailing their foul language. A lot of times, operators don't identify themselves, usually only by 'hand' or 'driver'. Getting a handle or call sign gets a little on the personal side and opens up the dialogue a bit,... at least for me it does.

In my neck of the woods, we have a pretty loose crew but nobody really runs their mouth TOO much. However, when somebody gets in there that we don't know and stirs up the soup (profanity, "Your a mudduck", or "Your rig sounds terrible", etc), somebody will say "Who are you?", or "What's your handle?", about 8 out of 10 times the person won't come back. But I have also found that if they DO come back with a handle they are usually intoxicated, substance abuse-related, or just flat out mental. It's up to you if you want to continue to listen to it after that. It's also key to have a supportive talk group too.

Forget the Hot Wheels race track, my old man used a leather belt and mom used a wooden spoon.

I don't curse,... guess all the whacks on my backside worked huh?! LOL

XLAXX
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Crafter
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my god hotwheels track! I had purged my memories of those days dont forget the dreaded flip-flop, or the first thing they grabbed ! LOL !
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Rightwing
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WELL FELLAS ONE THING WAS FOR DARN SURE, A GOOD BUTT WHIPPING TO DISCIPLINE WORKED THEN , IT WOULD NOW. JUST USE SOMETHING LIKE A RUBBER PADDLE, OR SOMETHING THAT STINGS LIKE HELL, BUT LEAVES NO MARKS. IMAGINE IF SOMEONE WERE TO INVENT RUBBER SWITCHES?LOL THAY COULD BE ORDERED VIA 1-800-WOOP-A**. SAME TECHNOLOGY USED BY THE NY POLICE YEARS BACK.LOL.
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Taz
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the title of this thread.

CB Jerks.


hehe.

That term just about rounds up all cbers. Except for the good ones here at copper.
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Xlaxx
Posted on Thursday, June 05, 2003 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taz-
There ARE good,... if not GREAT people on this Forum. People on the Forum make CB communications fun and for the most part enjoyable. I think we are a small piece of the CB pie though, but I am glad to see we respect the airwaves and enjoy the privlege of being able to use the bands.

Great post,.... keep it going!

XLAXX
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Kd4amg
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

curiosity question...i know some of you folks are AMATEUR radio operators... have you ever accidently grabbed the wrong microphone and given your AMATEUR radio call sign out over a cb channel ?
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of course and ill bet ill do it again!
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Kd4amg
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 4:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it is kind of embarrassing...once I did that and some one that KNEW me keyed their microphone and said quietly "wrong mike, robert ". Boy did my face turn red... we were face - to -face within minutes and neighter of us could keep from laughing...then by coincidence HE did the very same thing less than 10 minutes later !!
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Rightwing
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stuff happens man . we`re all human.
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707
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 2:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

umm...absolutely embarassing is grabbing the mic on your 2m rig, tuned to a repeater in a major metro area, and yelling CQ, CQ DX, CQ, CQ DX, CQ, CQ DX, Seven-Oh...Doh!!!!

Nobody said a word. I stayed off that repeater for a couple of days.
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Matt1955
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 9:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ever notice that certain areas you go"pick any city or state" there always seems to be a person who lives on 19? and delights in cussing Truckers and just about anyone else and everything? In a couple cases I have experienced ,it went on for over 10 years!
Any ideas out there as to what these people do to pay the bills? Do you think they have kids?
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Kattracker
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have always thought of profanity this way.

"Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forceably."

Kattracker
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Skilletlicker
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i heard once that cursing is the efforts of a feeble mind trying to express it self and that
would probaly include the f word
skilletlicker
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Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was some idiots on .585 with big radios and really big amps about 50 miles from me that would bleed over 80 channels you could understand them 5 channels wide and they must've hated each other and everyone else they were always angry and spouting curses at each other,some fellow tried to reason with them after a while they cussed him out and said if he didn't stay off their channel they'd find him and kill him.A week later they were silenced forever,arrested tried convicted and imprisoned for conspiracy to commit murder among other charges,just something I thought you might be interested in.
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codeman
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 9:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

COOL.
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RCI 2990
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good deal... someone needs to stand up to these jerks.. Its another reason ive kinda forsaken CB for my other hobbies....
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Matt1955
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About 10 years ago in my area 2 idiots got into a cussing frenzy and met each other to fight! As one pulled into a parking lot the other shot and killed him! The fool cried self defence in court,but it didnt fly! His Handle didnt help either! It was a name that sounded like he liked to kill people! "dont want to post it here"
Given 20 to life in prison is bad enough! But over a CB?
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cactusjack
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got a guy here in so. calif that gets drunk and screams profanity on the radio about once a week. He either lives real close to me or he has lots of power cause I get S9 plus 40db or so on him. VERY ANNOYING!!! Going up or down 80 channels or so doesn't help either.
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Reno
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 7:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are jurks everywhere, and some people like to point to isolated problems on ham radio. The defference is amatuer radio has a real inforcment process. C.B. radio does not.

Now for labeling aragant,selfish,misguided,insulting,intimidating individuals as jurks,,or jerks I say well done.
cff:reno
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Czar
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quote: amatuer radio has a real enforcement process,cb radio does not. LOL,LOL,LOL,IALMFAO !!Do you mean the enforcement of all the trash talking filthy morons on eighty meters running at least an average of 2-3 killowatts a piece ?? Or you must mean the enforcement that went on during the "Liberty net" years when Riley himself was threatned on the air and cussed out LIVE on the air and he only issued a warning notice to these idiots !!! Or you must mean the KNUT repeater with its 79 warning notices and yet over 2,000 noted violations and it remained on the air for 6 years without ANY,ANY, enforcement whatsoever !!!The bottom line is I have been a licensed ham since 1977 and I have heard just as much.sometimes more garbage on ham than on cb.Some people say you cannot turn on the cb around children because of all the filthly laguage,etc. BUT there is also NO WAY to turn on eighty or 160 meters at night because it sounds worse than ANYTHING you will ever hear on channle 19.The eighty meter op's with there death threats,music playing,echo mics,endless cussing and on and on and on !There is as much enforcement on ham at this time as there is one cb,Actually look at the FCC info site and you will see that more cb'ers last year were cited and issued NAL and payed than did mah operators,most hams are warned cbs usually ghet the stiff fine.And BTW the enforcement process for cb'ers and hams is the same,NAL issued respose requested and or fine issued with some other happenings in the middle,thats about it !
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CZAR


RIGHT ON! How many post have i made saying the same thing ....... like any band there are very good 75 meter users just like 27.115 on cb even CH-6 and Ch-19 has people who know how to use a radio. Its NOT a CB / HAM thing and its not a code or no-code thing its a mater of pride in doing things right and being a credit to a hobby.
Bruce
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Kattracker
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce & Czar,

Right On! I agree. It is not a Ham thing or a CB thing, it is a people thing, and you will find good and bad on all bands.

I know of CBer's that get on ham bands and cause trouble, and Hams that get on 11 meter and cause trouble, and people that cause trouble on whatever band they use primarily.

Sometimes people get out of perspective and lose focus on reality. The people are the reality of good and bad. Some hams down CBer's, some CBer's down hams. I think either way it is totally ridiculous. Kind of like "your not one of us so you are a loser". That attitude I have seen from both sides of the fence but mostly hams.

I plan to get my ham license in the near future, but if it meant getting on a pedestal and downing 11 meters because I studied and past a test, and CBer's didn't, then I would want no part of it.

To me it is all (radio bands) good. But some people spoil it for everyone.

Kattracker
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Mr_Rf
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 8:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, forget the ham vs. CB issue...just talking CB:

Granted, I know that some people for whatever reason must curse. But, do I live in a dream world? Around my community I hear 100 times more profanity from various locals on the CB than I do while walking down the same streets, shopping in the same stores, eating out in the same restaurants, etc., as they do.

So, why is it the dirty mouth develops when on the radio? What makes it more acceptable on the radio as compared to in person, or is it really more acceptable?

Am I wrong...in some communities speaking profanities in public could land you a fine, and even lockup if not ceased? Why isn't profanity on the CB enforced in the same manner?

When did "My FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHT" become twisted into "SAY ANYTHING-ANYWHERE"? Have you watched TV lately, talk shows, sitcoms, comedy, the MOVIES!!!

When we the parents, grandparents, citizens, do not speak out loud enough and our regulatory system (FCC, Congress, etc.) is willing to allow the media institutions to portray profanities (and insanities) as "The Norm" on radio and TV, then don't be surprised when one day we wake up and realize we have a problem on our hands that seems irreversible.

"WE" can reverse this problem if "WE" all speak out professionally and with civil order to our Congress, FCC, local governments, and most importantly the persons guilty of uttering profane language. But, if the voice is not loud in numbers, persistant, and without reproach then "WE" will surely fail.

Ahhh, "reproach".??? You know, I suspect I'm preaching to the choir...I bet most of the forum members are guilty at times of watching and laughing at the junk on TV and radio we call entertainment when we should really be outraged. I know I am! What's your blemish...Homer Simpson, South Park, NYPD Blue...your own tongue? I fail the test!!!!

Remember, we are what we teach ourselves and our children. No discipline, no reward!!!

Just call me Ward Clever
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Czar
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is my point,there is good and there are bad on cb and ham radio."Point to isolated incidents on ham radio" there are few isolated incidents of abuse,cussing,overpower,etc on ham radio.just listen to 80 meters EVERYNIGHT or 20 meters when there is a rare DX station on freq and all the fighting,cussing,tuninu-up,whistling,etc. , satsrts then goes on for hours,long after the dx station has gone QRT.Abuse of license privilage,abuse of power,and abuse of most rules and regulations go on EVERY day on the ham bands,it really isno differant than 11 meters,EXCEPT that alot {and I mean thousands}of hams seem to have the attitude that they took a test,so they have some right to break the rules.I am so tired of hams talking about how bad the"cb'ers" are when in ALL reality they truly are no differant,they just think they can walk on water.BTW I am not talking about all hams{I am one,without the attitude}just the ones that think they are better than cb'ers and break the rules worse than ANY channel19,6,etc. person.There is good and bad on both sides.
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Kattracker
Posted on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr Rf,

In short I mainly agree. And the TV thing? ...Yes, it has become profane and also insulting to my intelligence.

I think the old hard-line Pentecostals may have had something in the 60's, 70's, 80's.

What I mean is, they were against having televisions. Some of them still preach against television, but for the most part they have somewhat relaxed their viewpoints.

I Have 3 tv's but seldom watch anything but news, weather and the older stuff like leave it to beaver, my three sons. Yes I'll admit for being 40 something years old that is a bit uncommon, but I can't stand some of this modern day stuff. Too many music channels playing what I think of as junk. Sexy looking female super stars singing and moving their tight little butts all around. I admit, they can be a delight to the eye but it just brings temptation and teaches our teenage girls to dress in manners that remind me of sluts.

Well I better stop here. If I get on a tangent I'll go on and on.

Kattracker
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Czar
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen Kattracker,AMEN !!!!!
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RCI 2990
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 1:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was told once by a local (who no longer talks on CB) that guys that dont use profanity on the CB are actually looked down upon more so than guys that cuss a blue streak on the air.. He said something about talking on the CB like a real man... "Umm whatever" was what I though when he said that.. He was also quoted as saying that "CB was for real men and whimps need not apply to CB radio!" I heard that and about lost it!!!

Kattraker, whats wrong with seeing hotties on TV swinging their nice tight booties???? LOL! J/K
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Dale147
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 2:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys, you are not orphans here. Down here in Australia it is notorious. I had a lay off from the CB on 11m down here for about 3 years and when I turned it back on recently it was like it never went off.

Regards
Dale
Western Australia
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COWBOY
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How ya all doing out there buckaroos? You got the one and only, the original COWBOY, back on the radio. I'm usually on 27.445 LSB, weekends
and weekday evenings. Drop on by and say howdy.
Well, time to get another cold Lonestar beer. You buckaroos take care.....
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Kg4ryt
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some people today show a lack of character.
It is the same on Ham radio, a jerk is a jerk!
Just remember lips and life will show what we are made of.
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Bruce
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On 20 meters the other night some jurk is yelling Auddddio over the station i was talking too ..... we ignored him later the same guy was doing it to another ham .....he did give me a chance to try out my if passband shift .... dropped him right out.
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RCI 2990
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other night on my way home on a certain channel(the white trash channel i call it) there was about 4 or 5 people that were arguing and cussing about someone playing music on the channel. They went way over the limit when someone actually found the person that was playing the music and one of the guys pulled a gun on the troublemaker and was braggging about it over the air!!! Ove the past 10 years in this small town that uses CB radios (its one town over from me. pop 7500 or so) there have been numerous radio sytems actually removed from vehicles, several antennas pulled down off of houses, 2 towers pulled down, 3 or 4 drive by shootings, 10 fights resulting in hospitilsation(SP?) and several others resulting in law enforcement and jail time, and at least 8 shootings 2 being fatal, all caused by the CB radio and the idiots that talk on it and that cause problems. At one time the city proposed a ban on all mobile CB radios after 2 people were shot in one week caused by arguments over the air!!
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Freebander
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 3:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I DO NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE (SHOWS IGNORANCE) BUT, I LIKE TO CUT UP SOME AND I THINK I'M A LITTLE TAMER THAN THE GUYS ON 75M.


FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE-BANDEEEEEEEEEER
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Ca346
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man, 2990, that sounds like LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA to me!! Thought you lived on the EAST coast? bobman3

CA346/CEF197
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RCI 2990
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 1:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ehhh no this is in a small midwestern town.. LOL
I kid you not this all has happened over fights on the CB radio!!!!!!!