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neil carrick
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | 
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I would like to find a radio that could give me two meter variable frequency use, as well as still allow me to talk on the regular cb channels.
Is there such a thing out there and if so, where can I find one.
Thanks...Neil |
neil carrick
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 11:31 pm: |
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I should add that I am looking for this in a mobile application. Thanks again. |
bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 4:25 am: |
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Well a moded FT-100D will do that but as for leagal radio i dont know of one |
707
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 1:45 am: |
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Type accepted for both bands? No. Not at this time. Probably never since the CB band and the 2m ham band are altogether different animals. |
de
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 7:54 am: |
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I agree with 707. Amateur Radio requires an FCC License. CB does not require a license.
The CB band radio is type approved and the Ham Radio does not require any type of approval other than maintaining certain technical requirements. |
de
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 7:59 am: |
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Re Bruce
A fine morn to you Bruce.
The problem with using that 100D is that the owner is going to cry rivers of tears when the thief at the truck stop breaks into the auto and steals it. The loss of a radio that costs 700 bucks or more to a thief brings tears to ye ol pocket book. ;-)
May your day be productive and your family prosper.
DE |
Phineas
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:49 am: |
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Well there is one solution. If you are using a modified 10 meter radio for CB, you can always hookup a 10-2 meter transverter.
Phineas |
neil carrick
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:17 am: |
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Tell me more about this transverter.
This may be the way to go.
I have been just using a Uniden 78 for a radio but have been looking around to decide what to do and have considered going to a 10 meter to get better quality. |
de
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 3:22 am: |
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Re Neil....
In reply to what is a transverter.
A transverter is a device that converts a frequency or signal into a completely different frequency or signal. Transverters usually work on both receive and transmit.
Way back in the dino days hams used to use transverters a great deal to convert their HF signal into 2 meter VHF.
However, transverters have a few failings. One of whih is that the proper 2 meter radio is far more efficient and versatile. A transverter only works on a limited range of frequency. A proper radio usually works on a far greater range of frequencies with more modes and better signal quality.
And with the cost of todays 2 meter radios falling to only 150 bucks or so why not get the real Mcoy. |
707
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 3:37 am: |
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I'd point out that a 10m radio will likely NOT have all the CTCSS tone and split capabilities you will need for 2m repeater operation. Plus, a transverter will only give you about 8-10w maximum output, so you will need an amp to get any real coverage. By the time you finish with all that, you will have three or four different units to hook up together to get what you need to communicate. Regardless, no 10m amateur radio is legal for use on CB. Why not just get a small 2m mobile, and a small SSB CB like the 79-290 Midland?
I wonder what the legal issues would be with taking a 79-290, then converting it to operate up through 10m, THEN hook the transverter up to it. Tones aside, would it still be legal to use on CB since it is a CB radio converted to include the amateur band? |
bullet
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 3:39 am: |
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its not a question of whats legal, we all know what is and aint......
he asked what radio will give me what im looking for, in his case it was 11-2 meter freq coverage in a mobile package.
like bruce said the ft 100 is a fine radio, also icoms newest 706 version is also very sweet.
and will do just what your wanting it to do.
ill leave the legal delima up to you as im sure you know for yourself whats best and dont need anyone else to spout out the obvious.
later bullet |
707
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 3:02 pm: |
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Hmmm..Well, I just don't feel it's safe for Neal to be broadcasting the fact he may be planning to use an illegal radio on CB. He has a rather unusual name, and might be easy for some CB Sheriff to track him down. |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 8:59 pm: |
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here you go cb and 2 meters well almost
http://www.tentec.com/Xvertkit.HTM
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neil carrick
| | Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:20 pm: |
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Thanks guys, I was just wondering if it was possible. I work way up in the extreme north of canada in the winter and most of the guys use the cb's, however a bunch of the different contractors use the 2 meter radios with their company frequencies. I could just get a 2 meter and tune into their radios top be able to communicate with them. It is so isolated there that the extra range of the 2 meter would be a definate benifit when trying to warn oncoming traffic of an obstacle or emergency. I was just wondering if it was something that could be done and thus use only one radio. A few of them have both now but the radios seem to feedback on each other sometimes. Thanks again... |
Crafter
| | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 2:48 am: |
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Hey what happened with the 2510 uniden 2m, anyone remember? You mounted a handi talkie inside. There was a real conversion to do it. Can't remember the talkie model though. Was back about 92-93. |
Znut
| | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 1:01 pm: |
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The main problem with the utility of the FT100 in this case would be that the intended CB use is most likely strictly AM (as with a uniden PC 78) and the FT 100's AM quality is, well, almost worthless. The QRP rig, FT 817 is not too bad on AM but is only good for a couple watts.
Using a transverter on an AM only or AM/SSB CB will only give you the same modes on VHF. Most VHF ham activity and ALL business band activity is FM.
I agree with the recommendation that Mr. Carrick would be much, much better off with a $99-$149 2 meter mobile with a Hustler MX-2 5/8 wave mag-mount mobile antenna. Also, the capabilities of this modest setup would be most enjoyed with a tech class ham license.
Good Luck! |
Moderator558
| | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 3:41 pm: |
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$160.00 will get you a ICOM V8000 75 watt 2 meter radio, I have one and they are a great radio.
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Znut
| | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 5:38 pm: |
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I want one.
I like those Icoms. I have an OLD IC-27A made in the 80's when everything had an LED display. The S/RF meter looks like the VU meter on an old Emerson boombox. And the freq display leaves the 1 digit off of the 144...., but it is real small and will still do every bit of its rated 25 watts. Dual VFO's, a whopping 8 memories, tone encoder, offsets of course, etc. Did I mention that it is small?
No MURS for that baby though, unlocked it goes from 140.000 to 149.995. |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, June 01, 2003 - 9:44 pm: |
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Znut i have 2 IC-230's both working both built in 1975 i ran one for 15 years in several cars i would agree with most of what was said you can buy a nice 2 meter radio for 140-200 lots to pick from and 99% of people on 2 meters are fm anyway |
Kc0gxz
| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 12:44 am: |
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Where can I get a TV--Coffee Maker--Answering Machine Kit for my 2 Meter CB.
Jeff, kc0gxz. |
Simon
| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 9:26 am: |
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Hye Bruce,
I have an IC-21a, an IC-22S and an IC-2a all working. I just miss the IC-706 I had to sell to pay INS costs.. |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 10:27 pm: |
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I remember them well...... the ic-22 was a diode program one like a timex just keeps ticking! |
de
| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 12:26 am: |
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Re kc0gxz.
Why at the Home Depot of couse!
DE |
DE
| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 12:32 am: |
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Re Neil....
First your post for point of reference: "Thanks guys, I was just wondering if it was possible. I work way up in the extreme north of canada in the winter and most of the guys use the cb's, however a bunch of the different contractors use the 2 meter radios with their company frequencies. I could just get a 2 meter and tune into their radios top be able to communicate with them. It is so isolated there that the extra range of the 2 meter would be a definate benifit when trying to warn oncoming traffic of an obstacle or emergency. I was just wondering if it was something that could be done and thus use only one radio. A few of them have both now but the radios seem to feedback on each other sometimes. Thanks again..."
I am just an US Amateur Operator familiar with US laws but, and please correct me if I am in error, even in Canada for the 2 meter band do you not still have to have their version of a Ham License to operate there? Which would make such use illegal.
Or perhaps you are making a re to the assigned frequency band adjacent to the ham band? Specifics, the contractor applies for a VHF license and the Canadian version of the FCC sends them a license assigning them and telling them the frequency that they can use, power, etc. |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 2:05 pm: |
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2 meters ( 144-148 ) is HAM WORLD WIDE if someone is using it for a bussness it is almost certianly illeagal as for the use of ham radios in part 90 to part 95 not in us and very doubtfull in canada |
CM 3885
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:33 pm: |
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More legal stuff......:-( Geezz... This belongs on the ham VS CB forum... |
neil
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 4:56 pm: |
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Thanks for pointing that out GM 3885. Do a few of these guys really think that where I am is so far removed from the rest of the world that it would be impossible for a dummy like me to actually get or have a basic amatuer radio license? A basic lisence in Canada is only a minimum fee and a short test ( no morse). |
Buck
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 5:53 pm: |
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I believe bruce was replying to the post DE made....No one is trying to insult you neil....
Buck |
bruce
| | Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 7:36 pm: |
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Neil and CM.... Buck is correct my comments were in direct responce to DE's comments. NOW a MAJOR problem right now is the use of 2 meter radios over a wide range of bands like MURS and FRS. MANY of the people doing this DON'T have a clue that that is illeagal.... why if the radio will talk there why not use it. It IS clearly illeagal here in the US and will land you in hot water with the FCC.
As for you and your abilty to get a license No one on this forum has ever seen me do anything but ELMER people like your self into HAM radio if you should heve the desire to do so. I dont admonish thoes who simply run outside the law they are free to do just that but if a point of law like DE brought up about rules and i know DE does get a bit winded my statment was ment to be a to the point answer to his dialog. Check www.arrl.org go look at the FCC postings some of the people busted were doing just what you said .
Bruce |
Kd4amg
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 10:24 am: |
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,,,without getting into the TECHNICAL side or LEGAL aspects of the situation, it is a whole lot simplier to just have 2 radios, with 2 microphones, and use them as you can... plus, if one tears up, you still have the other radio to communicate with. |
bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:33 am: |
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It boild down to the fcc not wanting cbers axcess to high power radios but your right its just as easy to have 2 sets. |
307
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 6:41 pm: |
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FT-847 Yaesu...Ya Man...
307 |
Czar
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 6:57 pm: |
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Yaesu ft847 thats what I run,very few radios {4} that are better than this model.All bands {allright ,no 220,who cares}and all modes.Sounds great,reciever with the dsp is unbelievable !!! |
