Copper Talk » Open Forum » Archived Messages » 2003 » 07/01/2003 to 07/31/2003 » New antenna « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buck
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check this thing out....Ill bet I wouldnt be a mudduck any longer if I got this thing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3035341544&category=1501
Buck
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Taz
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No you wouldnt. I have used the old wilson laser 500 and it was an excellent beam. Then when I added a few hundred watts, it blew me away.

Nice design. I might ave one some day. some day.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Taz
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For only $450.00 thats a smoking buy if its in the condition like he says it is.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kirk
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I'd opt for a smaller beam and and amp if I were thinking of this monster! Can you imagine the first 60 MPH wind hit it? You have to have at least Rohn 55 on that sucker just for the twist moment! And that might not be enough.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buck
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 8:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont have to worry about the tower part of it.....I have 4- 90'silos around my house I can use for a tower....It would take alo of wind to knock one down. But I'll bet the wife would object to spending $500 on an antenna
Buck
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Karatebutcher
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck would you dare ask ?I must be really cheap.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

de
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Too bad the current owner does not state the gain specs. F/B specs, Rejection Specs, Turn radius, and replacemnt parts availibility on the antenna so that the bidder can compare the antenna to current models aka 5 element Maco.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

de
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE Horizontal Polarization...

Q how can you tell with reasonable certainty a Big Gun CB Beam from a Big Gun Ham Beam of the same basic design?

A Most of the time the Ham Beam will be horizontal in polarization and the CB Beam will be vertical in natuure.

Reason...

Most CB is done for local communication beam or no beam. The most popular CB antennas are vertical omni directional in orientation. So in order to effectiely communicate with them your antenna has to be vertically orientated.

Ham antennas are horizontal not because most hams put their big gun antennas horizontal. So if you want to talk local you are going to have to also be horizontal.

So I wonder why should a person of CB persuasion even consider a horizontal mode beam at all. If most of ones buddies are vertical and most of the stations that one will talk to in nearby cities are vertical why even consider horizontal. Would not such expandatures be a waste of time and money.

I was looking at that 7 element Maco antenna sold by our good board host. The numbers are nice for the price. I imagine it can be used in a horizontal mode for 10 meters if one decided to get a Ham License that permitted them voice on 10 meters. AND most importantly, parts would be more readily available as the antenna is still in production.

PLUS Quads are notorious for maintenance. They are good, very good, dont get me wrong and like them very much. BUT they do require more maintenance than a traditional yagi. All that wire strung up there means that the antenna gremlins will be breaking one of them every year or so.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Highlander
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That thing would DESTROY a 7 element yagi...Not even close!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buck
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Karate...I wouldnt even ask....I already know the answer....Maybe she wouldnt miss the $500 from the checking account. OR I could charge it and she may never know!!
Buck
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kirk
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck....if she's as smart as my ex with $'s, YOU might come up missing if you purchased it! -;)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had my pdl-2 up and down twice and it has been up for a total of 4 years with no wire breakage and they're pure copper,it depends where you live,don't get baseball size hail or have falcons going for doves or have high winds blowing debris into it,that could be the reasons.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck lightning 8 will handle 100 mi per hour winds,AND 8-kilowatts.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buck
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That could be also Kirk...Or at least part of me?!?!?! She was born in Manassas VA. Every man knows that story!
Buck
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

151 southern indiana
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

buck,
as bigbob said it will handle 100mph winds and this antenna was TESTED at 8k watts. i know of dxers that push 12-15kw into them without failure.

no need for the monster tower as stated before
i run a six element quad thats 34 foot long looks just like this SE 8 less 2 elements.and its on normal tower and no problems. although its always nice to have a more sturdy tower.

mine has seen some pretty good storms. the last one has blown down several trees in the back field, one landing on our patio and across a 2 element quad i just finished building. that storm was said to have had 100+mph winds gusts. that big ole six moved around less than my antron 99's.

if built properly a quad will give you good service without alot of headachs.

re:7elem yagi my 6elem quad will out perform one of those,that 8 will easily.

de, all specs for this beam can be seen on signal engineering's website. as for the reasons for horz and vertical polarizations on this or anyother band that should be obvious.parts can be obtained as this beam is still in production.

there nice beams but if your good with antennas you can build your own for alot less money. ive got around 100 bucks in my six element quad.and this includes the spools of wire and guy cable as well as other parts.

later bullet