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738
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would not mind paying to be listed on a QRZ type database for 11M. Somebody should make and host one. It would be great to be able to enter a handle/unit number or a assigned # and get a address to QSL to. It costs so much to rent a P.O. Box these days and thats a lot of info. to exchange under bad conditions. Being listed as a operator does not imply any type of illegal activity. Just say for example there was such a thing and I was given the number #A2029 and I'm doing DX with a station in Austrailia and finish by saying please send me a QSL you can look me up on 11Mlist.com my number is A2029, and when they looked me up it would say 738 and my mailing info. Just a idea, If I was not renting I would try to make something like that! Thats one of the cool things about Ham radio; callsign look-up. It makes it so much easier, I know I have copied a few address wrong in the past because of bad conditions. Just an idea........
73
738 in Las Vegas
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would do it but my ISP wont let me run servers, unless I want to pay a total of $150 a month for static ip address and more upload.
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Tech808
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's wrong with listing your Home address on your QSL's?

You will get them a lot quicker, and No Extra money involved.

Lon
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738
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Listing your address on your QSL is normal, the point I'm trying to make is getting the mailing information in the first place. If you get the guys address right thats fine, I'm talking about all the going back and forth during bad conditions or during QRM exhanging addresses, there is so much to get wrong, 1 digit here or there wrong and no delivery. International is even harder with a different format it makes it even hard to fill in the blanks later. I have done recordings in the past and that helps a lot sometimes after the excitement dies down and you go back over it again and again. For example on 6m SSB many of the contacts I have made were at the noise level where I was only able to copy the call and grid, but later looked up the call on qrz.com and presto name and address= QSL in the mail, try copying 3-4 lines of address information under those conditions! I just thought it would be nice if we had something similar to QRZ.com for 11M operators.
73
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Znut
Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, one should only QSL with confirmed contacts. Both stations have each other in their logs with a readable signal report. If you are not talking well and don't pull each other out you may not be able to confirm the contact with each other.
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738
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A QSL is the confirmation of the contact. In a normal QSO the exchange of imformation is done at the end of the QSO. Many times you lose the contact due to fading, QRM, jammer, etc. before you get the chance to exchange imformation even though you may have had a long great conversation, but you always get the Handle/unit number of the station you are talking to (sometimes to much) not to mention the fact of giving out your real address or paid for P.O. Box over the air during less than 100% legal contact. But if you could look up a Handle/Number or assigned number or whatever to get the address later that would streamline the process and increase QSL's!
J
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Lowpowerhal
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 2:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remeber sending (qsl cards) if you made contact to the next town, and had your f.c.c. call letters on the post card, and home address on the card. Made my first out of state contact and QSL from Iowa to New York. On 11 meter band or cb-23 in the late 60's . That was a no no , FCC rules that you could not transmit more than 20 miles if i remeber right. I never heard anybody getting into trouble with the FCC. But times has changed,It would be nice to have a 11 meter (qrz) webb site. Its nice to recive a card from a much needed contact , like to hear some input on this?
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

question......why would you give the fcc a database for freebanders???? Maby im missing something here????
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738
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Having your name/address listed does not imply or prove guilt anymore than having your name on a Summit Auto mailing list! Saying that you are using their products for street racing would be a far leap, although many buyers may do just that.

I guess this is a aspect of the hobby that a lot of you may not have tried, so may not have noticed the hardship of it. I used to have at least 50 QSL's and momentos from around the world that I had received, and found that most international stations were very good at QSLing and even sent momentos like country stickers, patches, etc. I even had a patch of Tweed from a weaver I worked on the Hebrides Islands! (good old us mail lost the whole box when I relocated here!) Many (not all) of these contacts were very difficult and close to the noise level and many more were gone before they could get my p.o.box or visa versa, then there was the frequent jamming, etc. It's not that common to QSL here and most USA operators are to cheap to buy a card or a stamp, but if you do any serious DX (like I hope to do again) then you will find great opertunity's with the international stations. Even 3rd world country's DX! Talked to a station in Guatemala once for close to a hour, he had a old mobil and a wire in a tree! Got a QSL from him! Remember just work on getting the best receiver you can and use the pre-amp from time to time, and the best coax and antenna you can get.
73 Enjoy... J
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Bullet
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rodger that............ as i hide behind the tree's with my 100' mic cord and shot gun. hehe
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, thats exactly what I was thinking. Maybe some of you oldtimers remember the Whiskey club from the 1970s, they were in most states, I believe it was started from Florida, they used the number of the state as admitted in the Union, like Arkansas was 25-whiskey, when you joined your call was 25whiskey plus your issued number. It was very well organized with state directors for every state. They kept rosters with names, addresses, handles, qsl cards, the whole works, even put out a newsletter. When the FCC raided the national director in Florida, they got lots of people very easily, including the names/addresses of the state directors. Needless to say the Whiskey club was history pretty quick, but i still hear a few using their old calls. I don't know if the FCC gives a ratsa*s what goes on with the CB band now, but why take a chance, huh. scrapiron
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Lowpowerhal
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce Thats my point. 75% of the users on cb band has a radio that can go out of band or runs more than 5 watts out. Yes im guilty too.Its a nice ideal though, 11 meter (qrz). The FCC would love it to.It will not work.But what about this ideal( Fcc gives 27.415 - 27.550 mhz also able to run 250 watts out. Under a license fee like (GMRS). Self police the band as of ham bands.)Just a thought.Then there could be a data base for license 11 meter band.And have awards contacts and legal qsl's 73's lowpowerhal
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrap .... the whiskey club is EXACTLY what i was thinking of... when they got hit i knew several who got leters from the fcc ..... since the FCC had already monitored them on the freebands..... it was a nice address / phone book .... thank you whiskey club from the fcc .... Now if you dont use other than the 40 ch you would have little to worry about in a way i dont think the FCC realy cares but why chance it?
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738
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 5:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats a shame to hear about, I have been off for 12 years myself and did not hear of that L Well was a good idea IMHO, I don't think they would care at this point in time, but why take a chance if your not comfortable with it. It would be nice if they opened up the band a little, but I don't think they will. BTW does anybody follow the old "Gentelmans agreement" about AM below CH 30 or so and SSB above? Seems like a bunch of dummy's mixed up all over the place, and I have read hear in various places guys who seem to know better talking about talking AM on SSB freq.s and SSB on the AM channels like like 815? I guess everything goes down hill these days. At least I'm happy to hear some good stations still in there and some interesting topics here!
73 Guys \ch {:)}