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Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 5:02 pm: | 
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Do you like roger beeps? Do you ever use them? |
Karatebutcher
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 8:01 pm: |
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I like the roger beep, but I never use it, only a couple times when it really helped with a weak conversation to let them know I was done talking. |
Buck
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 8:26 pm: |
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Dont own one and never have....I hate them on am but they dont seem too bad on a weak SSB station.
Buck |
Bullseye
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 9:40 pm: |
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I like a RB because sometimes I stop to think and forget to start again. With the beep whoever I'm talking to knows I just sitting ther with a dumb look on my face. |
Keithinatlanta
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 9:57 pm: |
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Taz, I use the roger beep when on side band only, not am. It can drive you crazy on am, but on ssb it is great to have because it is a way to say you have unkeyed the mike from talking, which is usually skip conditions anyway.
Keith in Atlanta |
davidsstocks
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:19 pm: |
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Good for long distance communication. |
Alsworld
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 10:43 pm: |
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Yes I concur with what's been said above. SSB, especially for a weak connection it can be helpful, but I hate it on AM unless it's the same, a weak connection that needs it's help. Otherwise, it's an irritating noise to me.
Good thing for you Taz is that the Lincoln has one of the sweetest sounding roger beeps on the market! Short, not irritating whatsoever.
Alsworld |
Stickshift
| | Posted on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 11:16 pm: |
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I never have really used them much. They do have their place, however. When talking to weak stations they can be very effective in confirming the end of a transmission. Otherwise they are pretty much an annoying noise toy that I have no time for.
73's
stickshift |
Skilletlicker
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 5:55 am: |
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i have one but rarely use it
skilletlicker |
Sparkomatic
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 9:38 am: |
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If I need a beep to let someone know that I have unkeyed then I need to be spending my money on other things. |
Diggerodell
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 9:44 am: |
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all of my radios but one have roger beep and i use them all the time.........
undertaker |
Sodapop
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:44 am: |
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Well now, i agree with the SSB thing, they really help out when your talking skip. And as for AM, well depends on the beep. I don't mind when it's a short low beep. Like my 4900, very low, sometimes to low I think! *G* |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 4:38 pm: |
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I like the short muted beeps not the stock one in my dx2517. |
Rickinsc
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 6:06 pm: |
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Hello : This is just my 2 cents but for DX SSB conversations it is great.When conditions fade it does not matter how much power you are running. I see no use for it on am. |
Barefoot
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 6:25 pm: |
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they should sell a roger-beep filter you could install in your radio!!The same guy that has echo-breath usually has his roger-beep on! I just turn the dial and smile.If someone uses roger-beep local we just tell them and it usually gets turned off.It was not designed to be used for every conversation.sounds worse on AM. |
ChillyDog
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 6:29 pm: |
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One man's point of view:
If you need a roger beep to figure out that the person you are supposedly communicating with has finished talking, then you are not really communicating.
Sure, during scientific efforts such as earth-to-moon spaceflight, an ETS (end-of-transmission-signal) has its place.
But with CB, if you don't know when the other guy is done talking you don't really have a contact.
Roger beeps stink.
Bob
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Tech808
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:10 pm: |
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Well just my 2 cent's worth.
I really have never seen a need for them.
If you cannot hear when they unkey/quit talking then you do not need a roger beep to tell you they are no longer talking.
I always figured that they were for people who had Talkback and enjoyed listing to themselves.
SSB, heck if I can't hear them to talk to them why do I need to hear a beep to tell me they are done talking if I can't hear them anyway.
Just my thought's.
Lon |
67gto
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 9:42 pm: |
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I am not a big fan of Roger Beeps. The only one I can somewhat stand is the EchoMax Double beep. I think it helps with a weak signal.
67GTO |
DE
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 8:03 am: |
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Never used one because they annoy me when I have heard their use by others. The second worse invention. THE worse invention is the telephone answering machine--they never call you back anyway ;-).
DE |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 9:57 am: |
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No doubt the beeps are annoying, especially the long extended or double/triple ones. Have you noticed how many channels the beep will bleedover, you might not hear the talk, but the beep will come thur. They will kick the modulation several times that of voice. Guess thats why any noise makers have been against the FCC rules since the beginning, but who pays attention to the rules, huh. A single short one is not too bad, but I've keep an old mike for years that has a loud triple beep, the ear piercing type, and if someone is determined to play one, i'll let them listen to mine for a while, they generally get the idea. Thats the thing about beeps, the one using them, doesn't have to listen to it. That works for echo also, if someone has their's so high you can hardly understand them, turn yours up to where you know they can't understand you, that gets their attention. One consolation about those loud noise makers, if he's running an amplifier and keeps hitting it with those bursts of super high pitched mod, it will takes its toll sooner or later. scrapiron
PS, 10-4 on the answering machines DE. |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 10:16 am: |
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I guess y'all know when we post to this thread that we're dating ourselves. Old farts like me don't like the beeps, but the younger guys do. lol. The most important thing is to have fun, huh. scrapiron |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 6:24 pm: |
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My father-in-law says when you end your transmission say "go ahead" or "roger" or in noisy conditions "do you copy",makes sense to me. |
applejack
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 10:45 pm: |
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on my 2 2950's, they're on all the time. on my grant it was an add on and whenever i use it i hear it, so i only use it when calling someone, then shut it off. if when talking to someone on the 2950's they dont like it,i shut it off. i dont like the multiple beeps. although most here are against it i sure hear a lot of beeping on the air. |
Kattracker
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 3:08 pm: |
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I can take em or leave em. I almost never use one except on sideband. Also, if they beep more than once they start to irritate me.
Kattracker |
Codeman
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 6:58 pm: |
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ON the 2 meter repeters there are tones that resemble rodger beeps that sound when you unkey. there pourpose is twofold 1 is to reset the time out timer(TOT) the other is to let you know the other operator is done transmitting especially useful when there is a large amount of road noise so I soppose this would be comparitive to weak signal ssb. you could more easily tell when the other party has ceased transmitting. this would or could cut down on doubling on the air. I personally dont own anything with a rodger beep but I could see some usefullness to them. |
Barracuda
| | Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 11:42 pm: |
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Codeman,
The courtesy tone on the repeater doesn't reset anything. The timer may be reset at the same time, but there is no cause and effect between the beep and the reset action. That tone is there just to let all listeners know that the repeater recognized that the signal it was repeating has been dropped or that it has finished transmitting its own message.
73
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Codeman
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 1:59 pm: |
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Barracuda I own and maintaintain the local repeter YES OWN rest assured I know the courtesy tone sounds in conjunction with the reset I think I am more than qualified to make this statement. my repeter is set this way as well as all others. LET ME PAUSE FOR RESET (beep) codeman |
Tech808
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 2:39 pm: |
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Codeman,
Just wondering what repeater do you own?
For some reason I cannot find any Repeater's except the 2 Meter Repeater 146.6700- in Cloquet, MN. and is is registered to WA0GWI.
But his name does not match your name in your profile.
My 2003-2004 Repeater Directory might be wrong.
What Call Sign is your repeater listed under or what frequency is it?
As we are up that way quite a bit I could call for you the next time we are up that way.
If you feel uneasy about posting your Call Sign or Repeater call sign here on the Forum, you can e-mail me at: N9OSN@aol.com
Lon
N9OSN |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 3:03 pm: |
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codeman i agree with barracuda roger beeps dont reset repeaters now my repeater ( WR4ANA 53.55 mhz largo NOTE... at that time you had to have a repeater call ) which was active from 75-81 had a burst break squelch user turn on....if you wanted to turn it on from a sleep mode.... if the machine was not used for more that one hour the filiments to the transmitter were put on " QUICK HEAT " a 103.5 tone kicked them on and in 15-20 sec the transmitter was ready to go. Now im not saying you might not USE a roger beep to reset a timer but all stations would have to have a roger beep or you would have to have a back up reset carrer reset. Our local repeater puts out a beep to let you know it has reset my controler board had that too but thats a internal repeater thing not user. Also on my machine because of skip i had a output monitor recivier so if anything was on the output frequency the machine would not come up.... it never heard anything and untill its demise ( 3rd lighting hit ) was on 24/7/365.
The movement now is to all repeaters using tone squelch and one could incorperate the loss of tone into a controler board into a reset pulse.
Bruce |
Codeman
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 3:27 pm: |
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I wish to remain anonomous. but with that yes on my repeter the tone indicates that the tot has been reset yes the tone indicates this. Any way I thought this forum subject was in reguards to rodger beeps not courtesey tones. I was just simply makeing a comparason. |
Sandbagger106
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 3:53 pm: |
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For the most part, I think they are silly, but that being said, I knew a guy that ran an Astatic mic with a "K" beep and that was not bad at all and he was a distant station on SSB..... I think it helped to know when he unkeyed. sb106 |
bruce
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 4:59 pm: |
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I have no problem with them untill they get to BEEEEEEEEEEPing long and yes i hear them on ham radio too.... |
Codeman
| | Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 8:45 pm: |
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I have also heard them on ham but not very often. for some reason they dont get a very warm welcome on the ham bands. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 7:30 pm: |
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What about a Patrick beep instead? |
Ca346
| | Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 11:58 pm: |
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I own 3 radios, and only one has a Roger Beep. Never use it. Like to hear one on SSB tho. Not sure why. I only find it irritating, when 10 people are trying to talk at once. Sounds like a mad house! |
