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Allagator
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 9:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i know a guy that wants to trade amps his vamit 350 with new tubes for my d&a mavrick 250 hummmmmm good trade or not ???

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Kattracker
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 7:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Allagator,

I can't say if it's worth it as I don't know the condition of the Varmint amp that guy has.

I will say this, I had an amp like that and they are built like tanks. However if not tuned right they are dirty as Heck.

If you trade, check out the Varmint very well BEFORE you hit the commit button on trading.

Just my viewpoint,

Kattracker
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like he said, i'd want to make sure the varmint was in good condition. Your trading an 8 tube amp for a 4 tube. I guess all 350 varmints are 4 tube, mine is, it has 1 6KV6 driving 3 6LR6s. As far as swing on a meter, probably want be much difference between the two, the varmints with the super mod are really swingers. I think the D&A Marvick is better built and more durable/forgiving than the Varmints, which are kinda touchy, you gotta run them right, be very careful with keyup, etc, or your gonna have problems.
That's been my experience anyway. scrapiron
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RCI 2990
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are TERRIBLE for splatter!
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Allagator
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well guy its a done deal i stole it i gess it has brand new tubes and has been all redone !!!!!!
I think i got me a good amp now !!!!!!!
Thanks for the input guy's !!!!

Allagator CEF/115 P.S. Talk to ya on sunday !!!!!
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RCI 2990
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 2:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a maverick 250 and a Phantom 500 and both worked ok. They splattered like crazy but they were both built tough as nails. Id take a Mav 250/Phantom 500 over any Varmit anyday but anymore i stay away from sweep tubes boxes.. If I ever get another box (thats a BIGGG -IF-!) it will be a box with 3-500Z tubes and then ill be done and over with the amp thing for good!!!!
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know in my 30+ years of owning, using, and listening to all types of radio equipment, CB and Ham, some costing a few bucks, some a few thousand, the biggest factor that I've noticed, in how the equipment performs, is the operator. The lowest priced or the most expensive and best, can sound good or bad, just depending on the operator and how he sets it up. I've heard some of the low end, very poor built old CB radios and amplifiers have broadcast quality sound. I've also heard nice HF rigs and amps costing several thousand bucks that sound like junk. It's just the guy keying the mike and using the equipment that makes the difference. Granted, the better eqipment is more of a challenge to be made to sound bad, but it can be done, I hear it everyday. In fact I hear more bad sounding stuff now than I did back in the early days when most were using old Johnsons, Lafayetts, and Pintos, and running old cb tube amplifiers. I guess the reason was they were not super tuned, with way too much mod, and echo was not heard of. scrapiron
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Forummaster
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrapiron63,

You make a very good point. I believe the main reason for misuse of equipment is misinformation. Over the years I have heard more misinformed advice given to cbers than I have good advice. The average person myself included can't tell the truth from the bs. Some give bad advice because they want to make a buck others because they want to make their setup sound like it's the best and still others because they just don't know any better.

That's why we started this forum. I have tried to pull together experts to help the average cber determine the facts from the fiction. Tech833 is a prime example. He is an expert in the antenna field. He has debunked many myths that we have heard over the years but the process is not an easy one. We have heard and read the myths so many times it's hard not to believe they are true.

But as the myths get shot down one by one we will have a force of informed cbers releasing information well beyond the reach of this forum. Hopefully in the next few years you will see a difference on the air.

I would like to thank all of you here that participate in this process because it is an important one.
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 6:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Mr.Forummaster, do you think instead of "Citizens Band" that maybe BS Band might have been better. haha, You are right about the BS, and definitely right about the shooting down of lots of myths on this forum.
I'll admit that when you started advertising this forum on the weekly specials emails, I started reading it out of curiosity more or less. I sure didn't think I could or needed to learn anymore about CB radio, except maybe where a bargain was. But man it didn't take me long to realize some of these guys knew what they were talking about, and explained the reasoning behind things I had noticed, but didn't know why. And even for an old dude like me, after you admit to yourself that you don't know it all, then the learning becomes easier. The problem is, lots of guys will get radios, listen to the BS on the air for awhile, then start repeating that BS as facts, like maybe one guy will shoot down a certain radio on the air, 'that so and so is junk', the new guy picks it up, and a myth is born, he'll repeat it as fact. Like Lon has said before, we shouldn't badmouth any piece of equipment untill we've tried at least one, preferable several of that particular piece, be sure it was not an operator error. I've noticed posts on the forum several times about a certain radio, "they are no good on sideband", or "I've heard they are no good on sb." I knew that was not right, all you've gotta do is read the posts about the same radio from 307, 808 and 671, they all agree that radio is as good on sideband as any, and they've tested dozens of them. It's nice to have these educated opinions, huh. Yeah, I know, we all have opinions, and they certainly are not gonna all be the same, but when we start giving advise, on this forum, and on the radio, I think it should be from our own experiences or knowledge, not from something we've heard on the BS band. scrapiron
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Bigbob
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know if it had not been for 307 I would not have made the investment in such a spectacular radio as the DX2517,it's just what I wanted and needed,absolutely rock solid stable on ssb,no drift whatsoever,no more fiddling with the clarifier,but more on topic,please tell me when I'm full of bs,that is if you know for sure,because I sure don't want to promulgate any myths.
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Bigbob
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know it seems I have this knack for being able to stop a thread dead in it's tracks,ever since I was a kid,when I showed up everybody left,go figure,hm.lol.
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RCI 2990
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 2:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I notice when I post I get a lecture going for this and that.. Never fails!!!!


And guys yes i -DO- know how to run my stuff.. I just dont like TV tube boxes. They splatter.
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Bigbob
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 9:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Splatter!?!HAHAHAHA!That's so neet.