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chicken lady
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 8:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

with my amp,on, I have positive and negetive going straight,to batteries,that hook to amp,,and radio power is hooked to power in console,didnt know if,I could run radio,down to batteries,also?or hook them with amp,wires?I have low swrs,18 ft of coax 9ft jumper,10 guage wire,dont like the needles,jumping around,on my dash,I would appreciate,some advise,of what to do? ,I also need advise on ,not hurting my computer,that runs my rig,,,thanks
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Tech808
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

chickenlady,

On our 2000 Pete 379 and 2000 KW L800 we ran the wires for the Radio and Amp directly to the batteries.

We never had any problems with the Computer or Dash Gauges.

The dash or overhead wiring in the Trucks were not designed to handle the bigger radios. (Guess they figured everyone would run a little 1 watt radio.)

Check out the Link below and it will allow you to go to batteries and have your radio and amp hooked up (Splice both into leads) and makes it very easy to unplug and take your Radio & Amp in and out if needed.

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodW90-30014+

Lon
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e-mail:Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Mech
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chickenlady,

Another area you may want to look at real close is where on the batteries you have your amp connected. If you have a generation II autoshift transmission or a Cat 3406E or C-5 engine the engine ECU and trans. ECU both run straight off the batteries. You can't connect your amp or radio to the same terminals as either ECU. What type of truck/engine do you have?

Mike CEF 198
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Adshar64
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2000kw Lon ?

U da man lol
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Taz
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 7:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeeze Lon, big amps huh? I bet you didn't have much room in the trailer after you got all the amps in there!
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chicken lady
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 9:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you for the advise,can I run my cb positive,and negative,by just splicing,them in to the amp wires,which are 8 guage wire? that way I would not,have 4 wires,connected,to my batteries,I dont have any wires to ,where my ecm,is hook to,,,I have a volvo,425hp,volvo motor,super 10,which runs on 3 batteries,I had a 4th battery,added,on,and tied in with the rest,I was told it,would not,hurt anything,I have a 130 amp,its shows 13.8 on the dash,and doesnt seem to move,when I key up,but the needles do,on tach,and speedometer dont want to ruin my computer,you,know
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Bigbob
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have found,in my experience,that if you can surround the computer with a fine mesh metal screen and ground that,it effectively shields the computer from rf from antennas this is espescially helpful with fiberglass body panels and allows cooling air to freely pass though.Remember to insulate the spots where the screen touches the computer with vinyl tape, because many are above ground potential.
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Tech808
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chickenlady,

Yes, just splice your cb wires in and you should have no problem.

You might want to put Heat Shrink or Tape around splice.

Your 4th battery should be no problem as the alternator in the volvo's are good ones and should carry the load with no problem's.

Lon
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chickenlady
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have done everything,stated here,and tach and speedometer,still,go all the way to right,now also the little clock lite in rear of bunk,lights up when I key up,,I moved my antenna,to rear of cab,in the middle,ran a ground wire from base of antenna ,all the way to the frame,also ran a ground from amp ,to frame of truck,also ran positive and ground from cb to batteries,and ran positive and ground from amp to separet batteries,none are on computer battery,all heavy wire,have 18ft coax and 12ft coax,called 8mini,rg259,copper coled wire,gold fittings,come on guys please HELP,I have been called a dumb blonde,before,but its driving my girlfriend ,who is blonde also CRAZY
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Kattracker
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am not sure but I think people are not understanding what 808 is referring to with the 2000 pete and 2000kw L 800.

Lon, correct me if I am wrong, but I think you are referring to semi-tractors. A year 2000 Peterbuilt model 379 and a year 2000 KenWorth model L800.

I think some readers think you are refering to amplifiers.

Kattracker



AW DARN, I was having fun letting them think I was Hauling 29 extra Batteries and an Extra Trailer for the AMP.

Yes, you are correct.
Lon


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chickenlady
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so ,you think its funny!if I had a bra on,I would love to put ,it around you guys,neck,and choke the,,out of you,,,thought you guys,new what you where,talking about,not just full,of truckstop parking chit chat BS,tech,my ,ss


NOTE! From Tech808
Chickenlady,

I am sure Kattracker was not talking about your post. And neither was I, the remarks that were made was directed at me and I Apologize.

The Information I posted and suggested has worked well for me in Both the Pete 379, 210.000 miles and the KW L800 160.000 Miles. We ran the Ranger 2970DX with a Texas Star EX1200 and had NO Problems as I stated. We would run pretty much 24/7/for 5 months and then tske a month off and then another 5 months on driving, Rarely except for repairs or home did we ever shut them off.

If you have been driving for awhile we have probably talked at one time or another, OTR HANDLE was CATFISH & wife's 1st Sargant. We have always hauled Skateboard or Curtain Side Flatbed.

If you ever travel thru Bloomington, Il. Drop down to 13 and give a shout.
Radio is generally on from 5 am to midnight or later.

Lon
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Tech808
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 9:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chickenlady,

The only other suggestion is to take it to a Volvo Dealer and ask if they might have a Service Note on Adding radio's or any suggestion's that they may have.

Lon
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Kattracker
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually it was taz and adshar64's post that got me thinking there was a misinterpretation or misunderstanding on what Lon was referring to.

Kattracker
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Tech808
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chickenlady,

The only other suggestion is to take it to a Volvo Dealer and ask if they might have a Service Note on Adding radio's or any suggestion's that they may have.

Lon
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Viking
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know much about the big rigs, ok nothing, but the first thing that jump to my mind was the routing of the coax. Does it go through the dash and/or past the area of the tach and speedometer?

Just a thought.
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Scrapiron63
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I'm just glad Lon is not gonna get choked with that bra, wheeeeeeeeeeeeew, whatta relief, I wanna hear him again next sunday.
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Crafter
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the same problem in a trans-am was like a dosy watt meter !!! Sorta made me feel good.
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chickenlady
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Viking,has the brains,and a very good train of thought,my coax,is running in that area,im to tired,now,to check,,but also happy,I feel like thats it,,,bravo,,, Viking,I hope.
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Tech808
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

chickenlady,

Are you still using the STOCK Volvo COAX?

If you are it is not built to take your amp power.

Also is your radio mount above the windshield or top of dash?

Just curious,

Lon
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chickenlady
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 9:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech808,im using copper color mini8 r259,I think,the fittings are gold color,and the radio is above the windshield,in the overhead,,,,I was thinking is it ok to splice a ground wire,off the one I have running to minus,on batterie,maybe to frame?,,and can you have 3 ground wires,running off amp?,,I have amp wires running to battery,and another one running to frame,can I put another one also?,,also what ,,deadkey should my radio be at?