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Znut
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 6:17 pm: | 
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Well folks, this seems to be a hot topic, so here it goes!
I have best results on SSB when I have seperate control over my receive (only) with the clarifier. Even better with control over the receive+transmit, IN ADDITION to a RX clarifier (AKA RIT, or receive incremental tuning.) Best yet, frequency (VFO) tuning with a rx clarifier, or RIT. You 2510, Lincoln, 2950 and HF rig owners know what I mean.
To help a couple of us avoid I little redundancy I will copy and paste a couple posts from another thread.
Scrapiron wrote: (and I really appreciate his initiative in this debate, I've really enjoyed it)
"Znut, why would you just want to move your receive, if you tune someone by just moving your receive, you don't know where your tx is, wouldn't you rather have your tx and rx where the other party's tx is located. Just curious."
I replied:
"Good question Scrapiron and I have a good answer. I know where I am transmitting. If I don't I will take my radio to the bench to make sure, or send it to someone who is qualified to. My RCI 5054DX was 70hz off, but ranger fixed it under warranty!
Anyway, I prefer to be able to tune both ways because if the other guy is transmitting off freq from his own recieve and I move both my TX and RX to clarify him he won't be able to clarify me and the 2 stations chase each others tails instead of communicate. This is why I have such a big issue with unlocked clarifiers. You clarify a station once before you call them, they clarify you AND change their TX freq and you have to clarify them again. If your clarifier is unlocked and you do that he will clarify you again..............."
You can find a couple more posts under the thread "Magnum Omegaforce S45"
What do ya'll think? |
Hootyal
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 7:50 pm: |
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The best advice I could give anyone would be try it for yourself and see. If you don't like it, reverse the mod. Allot of higher dollar ham radios will track on recieve and transmit from the factory...and I can tell you from my own experience it is better open than closed. Be your own judge!!!!Hooty |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 9:32 pm: |
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Look,I have fine and course,does the same as vfo and rit in a 7 kc spectrum.The other guy clarifies to me at my behest,then I use the fine control to touch him up if nessessary,simple as that,uhuh. |
Topten
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:11 pm: |
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Znut,
I have a RCI-2985DX, thats the radio I use for SSB and it's great. My Galaxy 2517 is a pain in the butt to tune on SSB. A switch to lock the coarse tune out & a six digit frequency counter would be great additional features on an otherwise good radio. The 2985 always gets great reports on how it sounds on SSB and makes D'xing alot of fun. I mostly use the 2517 for AM and sometimes have a little fun on 27185, it has really loud punchy audio and it,
"Squashes All Their Pointy Little Heads". ;-) |
Znut
| | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 1:12 pm: |
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One reason I think it is good to discuss the details of how radios operate and how we would like them to is that some of this feedback is bound to make it to the designers and MFR's of them.
Bigbob, my moblie (Euro 3900) has fine and coarse tuning. By design this is perfect for these types of radios. It would work well if it did not have that stinkin' "detent" in the middle that wants to "snap" the coarse knob to just either side of right on freq. It drives me bananas trying to zoom in. (If any techs have a simple solution, feel free to chime in.) I can't imagine what the detent is good for. If you were trying to keep your eyes on the road and use the dentent to find the center I can almost understand but it is not accurate enough to do anything but get you + or - a few hundred hz. Otherwise, this means of tuning is great for this type of radio.
I still love my 2510 with VFO and RX clarifier. That's the best situation for SSB (even better with 3 more digits!) |
Bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 1:14 pm: |
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Clarifiers
Intresting on my ft-620 you can lock it or unlock it a very nice way to do it and over the 27 years ive had and used that radio it has been a god sent when dealing with crappy radios like SWAN 250's ( the 6 meter ver of a 1011 ) On my ft-840 you unlock it and it shows the receive frequency but does not change your transmitt frequency but with the qualty of most radios today it has been almost never needed. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 6:38 pm: |
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If the 2517 has a detent stock then 307 must've forseen the problems and removed it because mine does not have one on the coarse,only on the fine.Ssb has never been a problem for me with any radio,cut my teeth on a p-400 with a stock clarifier pot opened to 25kcs,Topten YOU think you have problems with 2517 try my p-400,7 kcs to right 18 kcs to left and no freq. counter,gawdog. |
Topten
| | Posted on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 1:02 am: |
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Bigbob,
My 2517 coarse and fine tuning pots have no detents and that's the way it came from the factory. It's really not a hassle to tune in a channel with only one person on the other end, but get 4 more in there and you end up chasing their radios so you can understand them. Of course it really helps if your radio is aligned properly from the factory. (had to get that done) IMHO Galaxy could of done a better job, pretty soon I'm gonna hang a for sale sign on it and just use the best radio I've ever owned, my RCI-2985DX. |
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