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Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I purchased a 1/4 wave groundwave for 6 only.. Manual said nothing about 2 but I tried it anyway and fond low swr on most of the band. It hears and talks very well on 2m so I tried 70cm and wow, kicks a#@ on 70, low swr, hears great. Is this a fluke or normal. If it's 1/4 wave on 6, what is it on 2/440. It's a vectra brand, 55 inch radiator with 4 radials, about $69.99.

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Bruce
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A 6 meter 1/4 wave is a 3/4 wave on 2 and works fine on 440 it is 9/4 wave and sometimes will also work i done this too with other antennas .
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392
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, does this mead any 6 meter antenna also works on 2? Including 3 element yagi's? Boy could this save me some space, and poles.

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Bruce
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No only a 1/4 wave driven elem will... AS and Hygain back in the 60's sold 6&2 beams they mixed elems with a pair of driven elems on one boom. Now you can make a quad and wind both 6 and 2 meters on the spreaders.
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ryan
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh man. i need to build me a 9/4 wave antenna for 11 meters. i'll rip all other omni users apart
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Bigbob
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 8:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ryan,an 81 foot driven element?Are you serious?Wow,holeeee.
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ss8541
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

odd 1/4w lengths are always resonant. the gain will increase, but bandwidth will decrease. so you aren't getting something for nothing. there is a tradeoff, gain for bandwidth.
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Bruce
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 4:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

true and if your realy crafty you could mount several small decoupling stubs for 440 and get more gain..... antennas are SO much fun.
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Simon
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heck, just slide the whip into a pvc pipe and glue aluminium ( English spelling) foil at the 70cm quarterwave points to decouple. With a bit of trial and error to tune it works extremely well.