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Moderator558
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 12:12 am: | 
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I have a Motorola Radius SP50 and a P100 VHF radio and would like to program them to a different frequency. Can this be done without any special equipment? |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 9:30 am: |
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you 1st need the software for both. then you need something called a rib(radio interface box). then you'll need the programming cables for both. you can find the software here.... http://www.cqham.ru/sch_eng.html
you can get the cables and rib here(they are much cheaper than buying motorolas name brand)... http://www.polarisradio.com/
if you don't have a computer whos cpu is -slower- than 350mhz and running windows 95/98, you can forget trying to program these. |
Moderator558
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 10:03 am: |
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so i need a SLOWER CPU? and I need 95 or 98?
damn I thought I was kewl with XP Pro
Nice link though |
Bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 9:51 pm: |
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ss8541 is right
When we got the p4's at our main shop our motorola softwhere stoped working.... sounds crazy but i guess it was wrote for DOS and after win ME ( win 2000 XP NT ) there are some real problems with running it. Soulition a 486-100 that computer services still had .... I use my NEC 100 meg P1 40 meg ram 1 gig hd to program my ham radios and when we lost the laptop at the jail ( DIED ) i used mine untill we got a replacement to keep things going it worked just fine.... the shop replacement was a 300mhz with 4 gig HD and 64 meg of memory and win 98 works like a champ! |
Crafter
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 1:26 am: |
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Yep we have to use a old lap top 100mhz to program our bendix kings. |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 10:44 am: |
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this problem is becoming a thing of the past. all the newest icom and motorola radios are programmed with windows. our athalon 1.8ghz programs these like a charm.
one of our laptops(for field programming) is a 366mhz and the only way it will program the DOS radios is with it booted straight to DOS. if you shut down to DOS, it will not read or write to the radios. |
Tech181
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 5:42 pm: |
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SS8541,
Are you familiar with EEPROM programing for Shinwa UHF mobiles (specifically model SC440X)? I have the prom burner, and have the radio programmed but I need to know what each level of the programming menu controls. I know TX and RX freq, and also TX and RX PL, but I am not sure on the others. I can clarify for you if I havn't explained this very well.
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STEVE
"Tech181"
Tech181@copperelectronics.com |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 7:47 am: |
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Sounds like ss8541 is saying it's time to UPGRADE,hehe. |
Taz
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 2:31 am: |
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That software was written so long ago that todays computers are actually too fast.
This problem is easily eliminated by making a hard drive partition and loading any operatingsystem, and using a piece of software (which I forget the name of) that slows your 2Ghz pentium or you Nice AMD 3200+ into a 386sx.
Scary huh?
Taz |
ss8541
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 9:47 am: |
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taz,
according to a service bulletin by motorola this will not work for their radios. MoSlo was one such program mentioned in that bulletin. but this was put out in 1998. there may be a program -now- that will work.
tech 181,
i have never heard of shinwa. i may be able to help, but sometimes, they lable some of these sections with terms that are completley undecipherable without the manual. i had a midland rptr like this one time. your best bet would be to call shinwa and let them walk you through it. that is what i had to do with that midland. |
Bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 12:03 am: |
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ss8541
Last i talked to icom no f3/4 windows program was plained o well ..... ill figure on the NEXT generation of radio will run on a new machine....
buy the way the $79 icom ic-t2 programs JUST FINE off my NEC-100mhz laptop! |
Taz
| | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 3:18 am: |
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Its not MoSlo.. I still can't figure out the name..
Gerrrr
Taz |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 6:24 pm: |
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taz,
think deep and hard, and pull that program out of your a$$, i mean subconscience for me. i am running a 166mhz for the programming desktop computer. it is networked into our other 1.8ghz and is as slow as xmas when we want to run other applications. i would like to trash it and get another faster computer. it would be nice to partition the h.drive and run 98 with a 'slowdown' program for DOS for programming older radios, and then have xp on the main partition for other applications. applications shared with the main computer. if you could help me, i would appreciate that. i hadn't thought anymore about this since i read that bulletin a few years ago, but that was in 98, and things have changed since then. |
Taz
| | Posted on Sunday, November 30, 2003 - 10:33 pm: |
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Ah ha!
Its called CPUKiller.
Slows your processor down by as much as 98%!
http://www.cpukiller.com/products/cpukiller/index.html |
Bruce
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 5:31 am: |
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8541
Here i run a 2.53GHZ P4 with 1 gig of ram a 128 meg vidio card 2 CD writers and 2 100 gig hd's. I built this to replace my 866P3 which i sent to a friend in brisbain austraila.
Now things are going speed nuts... for the wife i just had to replace her 1.7 gig celeron that was too slow for the games she likes to play with a 2.4 gig P4 with 528 meg of ram ( WIN 98se limmit ) a 256 MEG vidio card and a 120 gig hd with a soundblaster gaming audio card.....just to play games.
Right now you cant buy anything under 1 gig and soon under 2 gig and the ICOM f3 softwhere was wrote about 1997 when 200 mhz was DAM fast and expensive... Yep my trusty nec-100 mhz laptop works great for programing things slow but gets the job done. |
Taz
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 4:33 pm: |
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Hey Bruce:
What video card specificly? |
Bruce
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 8:36 pm: |
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256meg NVIDA gforce-4 |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 9:44 pm: |
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taz,
thanks, i knew you could do it. you'll make a good soldier one day....but, if you ever change your mind the USMC would love to have you. if you do go USMC...go infantry. you can always do anything else you want to later(you can even study while you're in, i did). i'm living proof of that. and the best part is you'll get to see the world down the sites of an m-16, meet strange, exotic people and then kill them. or if you are really lucky(and -expert- shot), it will be an m40-a2 sniper rifle. yes, seeing that firefight in the streets of I-rock, i mean iraq, has me a little pumped.
i'll definitely look into your link. you seem to be pretty computer savy(i remember many, many, of your posts). much more so than i am.
bruce,
what kind of games is she running that she needs a monster like that? my brother and cousin play SOCOM(the only one i know of, i'm not a gamer), and all kinds of other games and don't have beasts like the one you mentioned. they play these games over the net against each other and others. the cousin i am talking about is an IT(internet tech). thanks to what he knows i get to watch movies via internet download before they leave the movie theaters, and all the free music i can burn to disc. infact, i am jamming out to an internet download of 'system of a down'(metal-i bet taz knows them) as i write this.
i guess what i am trying to say, is that she must be playing some he!!asious games if she needs a system like that. like i said, i am not a 'gamer', but i know guys who are into 'gaming' pretty big, and they don't have anything like this. with these guys not running systems like this for their games, it obviously makes me wonder what games she is running??? |
Bruce
| | Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 11:35 pm: |
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morrowind cool game if you have a good card |
Ironmask
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 9:38 am: |
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ss8541
Please drop me a line at sharlow@stny.rr.com.
Thank you
Iron Mask |
Taz
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 11:14 am: |
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Socom is cool!
Its alot of fun
Hey ss8541
Check out www.americasarmy.com
Try out americas army special forces!
Its free to download and play there are no gimmicks with that one!
Taz |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 5:25 pm: |
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taz,
my cousin that i mentioned above was telling me about that game. he plays it. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 9:28 pm: |
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Ss8541,have you ever heard of a sniper rifle that uses a shortened version of the .458 mag,specifically 1.5" case 500 grain fmj for sub-sonic velocities in the neighborhood of the old 45 acp,I've heard of 700 meter head shots done with this number.Bigbob |
2ir473
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 10:16 pm: |
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I program E.F. Johnson, Maxon and Kenwood radios on my PC.
The software (freeware)is called "Slowdown", and it reduces the processor speed so that you can run the older prgramming software in a DOS window on your Windows O.S. computers.
Also, you could try booting up in DOS and running the software.
The software is often available on the website listed above, and RIBS and cables are usually available on eBay, usually at significantly less money than on commercial sites.
Portable radios usually have specific programming cables, and you may have to open them up and pull some smaller boards, to access the progrmming port or connection. |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 9:55 pm: |
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bigbob,
i have heard of them, but i'm not too familiar with them. the rifle i used(m40-a1) was a remington 700 that the USMC ripped apart and rebuilt the way that they wanted it. it could hold 1MOA(minute of angle) with the rounds i shot (168grain, match grade, .308's). so headshots at 700yds(1MOA at 700yds is a 7" circle, just about the size of a head)was not uncommon on a day with good wind. with the rounds that the USMC purchased right before i got out, guys were shooting at 1/2MOA. no one was failing sniper school for shooting anymore, and they had to lessen the number of rounds that could be 'dropped' on qual day. at least this is what i was told, i don't know this for certain. at least the school part, i do know the new rounds were better.
the real fun was shooting the .50cal barret. this gun could kill a man just from the shockwave off the round if it came close enough to the head. the roufus rounds were a blast, literally. the actual projectile contained rdx and a tungsten penetrator that could go through 8" of hardened steel. great for stopping convoys. fire a shot into lead and rear vehicles engines, and call in airstrike.
this weapon is a real force multiplier for the USMC. with it, a radio, and a nearby jet/helo, a 2-4 man STA, recon, or force recon team can do the job an infanty platoon or company. it also means much less casualties on our end since these teams can hit these targets up to 1.5miles away. an infanty platoon has to get much closer(within range of return fire from the enemy). and by going this route, by the time the enemy realizes what the he!! has happened, we have already given a BDA(battle damage assesment) and are off to an extract point, or the next objective.
sorry to talk/type so much, but...you got me started. and once i get in on this stuff i could talk forever. especially with what is going on in iraq and afghanistan. i did a tour in kosovo and surrounding areas before, during, and after the so called 'air' war and 'peace keeping' operations. for it to be an 'air' war and 'peace keeping' mission, i was pretty busy through all stages. much of it as combat operations but also much of it as humanitarian aid and such. so i have a pretty good idea what these guys are going through, but i also know it is worse for them. |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Friday, December 05, 2003 - 10:46 pm: |
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COOL!There was a company that made special heavy for caliber bullets,Elk Mountain,you could get 350 grain .308,250 grain .284,200 grain .264 and so on,the front half of the core was lead alloy,the rear half was tungsten and all in standard lengths.Imagine a 120 grn 22 or a 1500 grn 50.After the cop-killer bullet law was enacted they could no longer sell to the public,their main sales target was dangerous-game hunters.Bigbob |
Ss8541
| | Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 4:38 pm: |
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the only problem with this is that the extra weight changes the 'path of trajectory' for the weapon it is used in. the true '0' of that weapon is changed greatly, and that weapon will have to be re-zeroed for this round. it also decreases the effective range of the weapon.
at sniper school we zeroed our rifles with a certain 'lot' of rounds. we then shot only that 'lot' of rounds all through school. when we returned to the fleet, we were to re-zero our rifles to the 'lot' we would use there. that shows just how much changing from one lot to another will change the zero of a rifle. even though the differences in one lot to another may be very small, the effect that they have on a rifle firing at 800-1000yds, may mean the difference between General so-and-so walking away, or being carried away. and this is with all the rounds, no matter of lot, being 'match grade'. so you can see what kind of difference these -heavy- rounds will make in a rifle. but then again, they will also make a big difference on the rxing end if the target is close enough.
bigbob, let me throw this in for s$%^s and giggles, i think that you will like it. we were taught at school to control and watch all body functions for the 800-1000yd shots. and you really had to do this. these shots were always in the prone position. stress shoots was one such drill to help us with this(wearing you out with p.t. before you shoot). some of the instructors could consistently hit at 1000yds in the standing off-hand. and i thought i was a good shot. but shooting was all that they did. some instructors would bring their own rifles out to shoot on the range.
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silent souls leave .308 holes.
1* - pronouned; one asterisk (a$$ to risk) |
Bigbob
| | Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 6:58 pm: |
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My 50 sharps is loaded for big game 600 grn bullet at 2350 fps,8970 lb/ft energy,130 lb/ft free recoil not a prone rifle even with a monte carlo comb,pistol grip and 90$ pachmyr magnum recoil pad I get a hefty bruise on my sholder with 3 shots off-hand accuracy is adequate for close in work 3" at fifty yards with open sights,oh and the rifle weighs only a mere 12 1/2 lbs. |
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