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Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are there any amps out there that use a matched-8 set of sd1446,possibly with a sd1446 driver,say a palomar or a boomer or the like,could you drive something like that to good effect with a dx2517 if it has no driver transistor?Bigbob
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like a Messenger 4V.
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Rover
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey!

I got of one of them (M4V)
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Wildbill
Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try and find some MRF-455's, I know that eight of them will smoke in an amplifier, I know that 1446's is suppose to be equal, but I think the 455's are better than the 1446's. Here another thought 8-MRF3800's or 8-MRF421's or 8-MRF492's, all better than the 2879's in my opinion, if you can find them. Wildbill
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Tech671
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Texas Star DX1200 driven by your 2517 and a KL60 or 203 would do well.
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MRF455-60 watt
1447-70 watt
MRF3800-100 watt
MRF492-90 watt
MRF421-80 watt
2SC2879-120 watt...the only one of these that can be volted. The best of the best!
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ryan
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MRF454-80 watt (if you can find em)
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Wildbill
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right the 2879's can be volted, but look at the spec. sheet on the Motorolas versus the Toshiba's, look at the gain factor for these transistors also. Wildbill
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Bigbob
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've read where motorola is pulling out of the hf transistor manufactory,so toshiba may be where it's at,and one other thing when the 1446 is tested at 50mhz it takes 7 watts in to produce 70 watts out,at 30 mhz it takes 5 watts in to produce 90 watts out,this is according to RF Parts and if you look in their on line catalog it is listed as a 90 watt transistor for HF,my average with 4 of 'em is 460 watts how does that compute for peak watts,maybe about 690 naw can't be.Bigbob....P.S.got my phone back on.
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Bigbob
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 8:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had an amp with mrf455a tr's,a pair,talked on AM so long the studs desoldered from the pills,POOF,they were very high gain,3 in 60 out,and high-beta to boot,the real problem;steel washers between pills and heat sink,huh?Cost me double the price of mrf455s to repair.Bigbob
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Adshar64
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are you going to "volt" the 2879's at?
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Bigbob
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 8:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about a 800 watt amp 2 pills,50 volts dc,two irf154 892$ mp,need mega bucks and it's just plans and a schematic oh and tech8541 steered me to the site I lost that has combiners and splitters so you can run 4 ts667v amps off one radio,cool huh.Bigbob
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Wildbill
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've seen 2879's volted as much as 21.5 volts, but I don't suggest you try that if you don't know anything about volting. Unless you have deep pocket $$$. Wildbill
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Adshar64
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 5:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2SC2879's wont handle over 18v. At 21.5v they are smoke. Get a new voltmeter :)
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Wildbill
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are only going by what you've been told, until you do an actual test yourself, I will keep my volt meter. Wildbill
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Adshar64
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you know that? Ive replaced more sc2879's than I can remember, and have seen plenty blow on a car regulator fault (toyota)that jumped the voltage to 20.7v smoked em twice on this customer until the intermittent fault was permanent and the regulator replaced. This was in a TS50s which has two 2SC2879 finals. If your real show me a pic of your voltage hooked up to a SC2879 collector circuit with a ammeter in line. :)
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Wildbill
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're talking about 2879's in a transceiver application, I'm talking about 2879's strictly in an amplifier. I'm not going to debate you that this is true or not, but this is a common setup that some of the radio operators here in my town run. If you can't fathom that, sorry. Wildbill
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Butcher 318
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wildbill, don't waste your time, everyone knows that your hard core Davemade and X-Force comp guys run them at 20-21 volts all the time. Yea they smoke afew but they do hold up when everything is dialed in.