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Bulldog369
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have an a-99 now an i am looking to get into a beam. which the best beam-it has to be quite small tho for where i am living... i mean really small, if there is such a thing a as a small beam..i dont know much about them...any info would be great thnxs.
bulldog/369
cef302 rhode island
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulldog369,

Please check out the link below. It is one on the smallest and does not require a large rotor and is not bad looking in the Air,

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodM00-05100+

Hope this helps.

Lon
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Dinker1
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have used this beam, very good for price and it,s not hard tomanoover around. I used it on vert. or you can go horz. DEAN-
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Bulldog369
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 8:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thnxs for that 808... do u know the exact size an turning radius of that beam??
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Spun
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turn Radius: 10'
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Dx431
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 8:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turning radius is 10'.
The best thing I like about this beam, you dont need an expensive rotator to turn it. A heavy duty T.V. antenna rotator will turn it with no problem.
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Bulldog369
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thank you all for the info... just one more question... would this beam be good for shooting skip?--cause that is pretty much what i do....you know talking around town is no challenge...
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Mech
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 2:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulldog369,
Next to the IMAX 2000 it's one of the best antenna I have had. It handles the wind well and I use a heavy duty T.V. rotor also. I like it better than the PDL II that mother nature had a go with!

Mike CEF 198
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Highlander
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, it would do very well for skip. If you are not concerned with talking locally, or if you have a vertical antenna to use for that, I would suggest mounting the m103 horizontally.
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulldog369,

Homeboy CEF#159 Uses the M103 and talks skip generally 4 to 8 hours a day Every Day and on Weekends maybe 12 to 18 hours & Every Sunday on the CEF Nets.

He does not have an Omni and also has used it for over a year now for Local and DXing and trust me he has NO PROBLEMS doing either.

Homeboy runs his M103 Verticle and love's it.

He is known locallay as the FASTEST DIAL TURNER EVER.

He can be talking DX on 38 and flip back so fast and continue a conversation with us on 13 and never miss a beat.

HE IS FASSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!

Locally he always sounds Great and always gets good report's on the CEF Net's as well.

Lon
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Bulldog369
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thnxs very much 808... i just dont know much about them but i guess i will try it out..the reason i am going with the beam is to maybe cut down on the rf interfereance with the nextdoor neighbor... hopefully it helps..even when i point it right at her house with a jb2000---lol
i'll post a let ya know how i make out..
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Highlander
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bulldog, I wasn't trying to suggest that you would have "problems" mounting the beam vertically, but there are advantages to mounting it horizontally if you don't care about using it for local talking. Most man-made noise, it turns out, is vertically polarized, so you might find your receiver to be a little less noisy if you went flat. It can make a difference, especially with weaker signals. (Source, ARRL Handbook, 1993 edition) It would also have a lower wind profile flat. Most serious DXers go flat, but vertical will work fine as well, as Tech808 pointed out.
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Bulldog369
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thnak you highlander..i am goinig to try it both ways to see which one i like better...i feel like i am living in the land oz over here nothing goes right... but hey what can u do... thanks alot for all the info, the m-103 should be in next week we'll see what happens..