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Mikefromms
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone use barrel connectors to join coax? Is there any noticeable loss using a barrel connector?

mikefromms
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Crafter
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Post Number: 1010
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do, and have noticed no difference, also join two lowpass filters with a adapter and dont notice any difference either.
Mike on a side note e-mail me I got that thing made for ya you wanted.
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Tech8541
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Post Number: 153
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the loss at cb freqs is so low, you could say that there is no loss.
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 96
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you mean a coupler i have no difference.. there should not be cause you are really just adding an 1/2 an inch to the legth of your coax i actually moded one for that the tips of each connection would touch an it seemed to work great.
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Keithinatlanta
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Post Number: 202
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok Mike. Educate me. What is a barrel connector. I have a connector where you can join two pieces of coax with pl 259 connector on each end. But that is all I have seen. So what is a barrel connector? Thanks.
Keith in Atlanta
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Tech808
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Post Number: 2017
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith,

A Barrell Connector is:

A DOUBLE FEMALE CONNECTOR that allows you to Connect Two Pieces of Coax together that have PL259 ends on them. See Link Below:

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodC70-05004+

They are VERY HANDY if you decide to move your equipment to another area in your room and you find your coax is a little short.

The you can add a barrell connector and a Jumper/(another piece of coax.)

Hope this help's.

Lon
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Barracuda
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Post Number: 225
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the connector doesn't get any warmer when you transmit, it can't be disipating any real power in the connector itself, so therefore there can't be any great loss from it being there.
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Mikefromms
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 6:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the replies. You'd never believe (well, your might believe) some of the things I've heard about barrel connector and other coax related stories. The main one that sticks out in my mind is the 1 db gain loss it supposingly causes. I was really wondering about that. If you guys don't see a difference in performance that is good enough for me. Now I've got to order some more coax.

mikefromms
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Keithinatlanta
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Post Number: 204
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Lon. I thought that was what it was. That is what I have.

Keith
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Ozzie
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike,
Any join will have a loss. How much depends on the quality of all connectors used in the jopint, how well they were put on the cable and the frequency in use.

A Barrel connector, used at 11m, with properly fitted PL-259 plugs should have almost 0 loss ( I think the figure is around 0.05db but cannot be sure). Anyway the loss is so small that unless you after the ultimate in performance it really doesnt matter.

I have used them as high a 70cm on several occasions with no NOTICABLE loss of communications quality. Just make sure everything is good and clean. BTW you can clean the pins on the 259 with a white soft eraser.
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Skilletlicker
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have usef barrel connectors for years with no problems,it is the only way i know to propely connect two pieces of coax,lou franklin says splicing a coax causes an impedence hump raising the swr like tying a knot in a water hose
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Crafter
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Post Number: 1015
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Higher quality metals conduct rf energy better than non-precious, I do pay the extra money for silver and gold connectors though I realize its just alittle but every little bit helps.