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Skilletlicker
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just saw a great buy on e bay anew anttron 99 for
49.50.copper price 37.50
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

don't you mean an anttron "splatter stick" 99?????lol
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Bullet
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Post Number: 301
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 6:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i run a pair of those and love them.

(splatter is not an antenna problem as much as it is a transmitter problem!)

i feel they work very well for a low cost antenna.

ive just bought 2 more of these the other day for 20 bucks. not bad.

im thinking seriously of phasing another pair with the pair i have up now.

i'll have about 40 bucks in 4 used antron 99's ive reconditioned and painted.

plus the co phase harnesses ive made. might be about 90 bucks in all for a four element colinear array with about 8-9 dbi gain.

this is similar to the real gain of a 2 element signal engineering quad or PDL2. but is omni directional instead of unidirection
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Jon666
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have used the same a99 for 10+years
and i have neaver had any complaints
from my neibors.
so i say radio splatter.dont knock the 99
for a splattering radios and amps
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Ryan
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Post Number: 90
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Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wouldnt pay 40-50 bucks for an antron. i know far too many people who have them sitting not in use because they either upgraded or went off air. ive gotten a few 99s for the price of $0 because of this
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Pp1616
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

iv used 5 diffrent radios on my a99 using mini8x brand new on a my meter pushing about 80% modulation and i still bother the people next door and thats even runing .4watt dead key swinging to 3 watts through a tvi filter!!!! when i had my old antenna up it never did that even with 9watt dead key swinging 40 watts modulation 100+ %
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Yankee
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 2:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Say what you will, I run an I-Max 2000 with several different radios most of the time at 150 watts. I live in a mobile home park, and as yet no complaints. Most families here are either on cable or sattelite. My system is well grounded with an 8 foot copper clad steel rod. Compliments of the cable company, same rod the phone companies use. When I was running an Antron 99 I had complaints and that was before I was running power, other than my own home TVs I'm clean of TVI & RFI on telephones even cheap phones, friends it's all in the grounding, my ground wire is #12 copper wire. I bother my own because my TV antenna and sat. system is just under my I-Max2000. Yankee
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Radiodude
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 7:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOT the 99s fault!! crappy radios fault!!!!
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Pig040
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Post Number: 368
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used the 99, had constant problems with my neighbors, used the same antenna with numerous radios, still bled! Switched to a V 5/8 and never had a problem running the same radios and power as with the 99. The 99 is a good low cost 1/2 wave antenna, but it bleeds, and that is a fact. It has its uses, but it bleeds, and there is not one thing you can do about it. In this time when most people have cable there are not as many complaints, but I bled over phones, and one neighbor who didnt have cable I was in her tv, and yes it was properly installed, and I was using a filter, several in fact.
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Pp1616
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 1:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

iv used a galaxy saturn, voyager, cobra 142, superstar 3900, cobra 19, rci 2950, and a ranger 696f and all on a good meter and all through a filter and still have bleeding. poor guy next door i go through his tv his computer his sattelite phones, all is grounded well never did it on any of the other antenna's i have had
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Jon666
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Post Number: 168
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 3:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i live in a trailer park my neibors are about 50 feet away neaver! have i had a complaint
so bash the 99 all you wish.
ill shurly not get another antenna
with no complaints
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 105
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 6:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i think they are a splatter stick thats why i said it... i have a neighbor about 60 feet away. i have used 4 different radios.. they have all botherd her. i have everything ground. every radio that comes in here either to keep or to work on them they all get grounded to my inside ground rod an then outside to the other grding rod. i think these a99 are good for a cheap antenna but they are not very good for close by neighbors with the high rf they have. an i don't run heat all the time so it is not that.
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Jon666
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Post Number: 169
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 7:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh well to each their own i guess what it boils down to is whateaver works 4 you
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Mdiver
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 8:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok I have one two and have tried many radio's on it..I have made 4 contacts in the last 5 months on our CEF Sunday sing in, don't have a amp that works on side band but when I do run my amp I'm very pleased. the SWR's are flat brand new coax..Now for the rest of my contacts were on my moble no amp and a wilson 5000 ant.(think I will put a wilson on top my roof and give that a try..
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Hawk1
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Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bulldog;;did you try a different antenna and did you have the same problem then?changing radios doest neccessarily mean its the 99..now if youy change antennas i think it would..hk
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Kb5lpa
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've owned 3 A-99's. Sold one when I moved into an apartment(no radio for 2 years). Sold the 2nd to a fellow ham for him to use with his HTX 10. The 3rd is in the air now. Zero problems with any of them. Never has it gotten into any rf sensitive component in my home or anyone elses for that matter. Ground everything, use low pass on the radio, high pass filter on the tv,vcr,etc. Toroid chokes on answering machines,telephones,etc. Quiet,very quiet. For the cost it cannot be neat. I've worked the world on this antenna running 100 watts or less on 10, 12,15, and 17 meters. 20 meters in a pinch through a tuner.

73 de KB5LPA
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Pp1616
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Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ya if u feel like buyng chockes and filters for every one around u that works... my antenna dont do any thing to my tv's phone's computer's but my neighbors house it trashes.
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 5:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i guess it must just be us in rhode island there 1616 that have problems. no hawk i have not tried a different antenna yet i am working on getting one now. an i do run lp filter on the radio an the rf chokes an the clamshell filter on the coax.. i have put in-line chokes on her phone, hp filter on her tv an it does not seem to work.
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Foxracing
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 6:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will tell you this.. I have a A-99 and have no problems... Whenever I run heat.. OTHERWISE IT DOES A BETTER JOB THAN THE BIG STICK..

fox
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Skilletlicker
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 8:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i had the same problems with an i max 2000 as i do with a anttron 99 ,as long as i use no power i have no problems,what i was trying to bring out in the first post the difference between ebay and copper prices
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Ozzie
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funnily enough I give our stereo heck when using the B & W folded dipole (far side of the house to stereo) on 10m but nothing if I switch to the A-99 right above the stereo.

5 years and I have had no problems with the A-99
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Pp1616
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 9:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im starting to think it might just be a hit or miss on these.. im thinking maybe the guys making the a99 have a couple people working for thim that cant do a good job so some antenna's are worse then others and some are real good. and because they make the imax 2000 i wounder if thats why some people say there better then the a99 and some say there just as bad. just some of my late night thoughts
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Hawk1
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bulldog,,if your real close to someone it mite be front end overload,,probably the only thing that would work then would be to raise your antenna..
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Cm3885
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to run a A99 and GPK and NEVER bothered anyone and that was running a radio with the(Oh my gosh!)limiter removed. Grounding is definetly the thing to do!!!!!
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Tech833
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my report I mentioned that in one of the A99's I cut open, the stranded center conductor of the coax cable was only wrapped around the bottom of the coil tap and not soldered, but on the second one I cut open the center conductor was wrapped and soldered well.

If your antenna is one that is not soldered,
you will surely create intermod interference the same as a loose aluminum antenna joint would. I believe it is an old mfg. date vs. a recently mfg. antenna.
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Bulldog369
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Post Number: 107
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 5:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hawk i have had my antenna up highprobably around 20-25 feet above her house... i must have one thats not soldered i guess.
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Jon666
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 5:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well said tech833
you took the words right out of my mouth thanks for clearing up this matter.