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Rollingrock
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Username: Rollingrock

Post Number: 16
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O.K. I,m about to give up and try SSB. Can any of you give me a lsit of the benefits of SSB over regular AM DX? Any cons? Also if anyone knows of a good tech in the south central WI area, I need to expand my options. Thanks in advance.

Rolling Rock 095
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Rattlesnakejake
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Username: Rattlesnakejake

Post Number: 130
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SSB goes farther, becuase many radios are set at a higher wattage for SSB. Also, because SSB has nom modulation, many antennas can handle more wattage on SSB than AM. Plus, you can get one the Sunday CEF nets :-)

73's
Rattlesnakejake
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Lowpowerhal
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Username: Lowpowerhal

Post Number: 208
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 2:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rollingrock 1st am power is 4 watts out, and ssb is 12 watts out. 2nd most of dx is on ssb, 3rd the serious dx guys and girls are on ssb and are very professional and polite.We have a net every Sunday on 27.115 LSB Its called copper fourm net or (CEF). We even have members from New Zealand and Australia which i have made contact also.Rollingrock SSB is the best way to go.As far as cons go none really, SSB radios cost a little more, But COPPERS has the best deals you will find on radios and equiptment. Also welcome to the Fourm.
Your new freind
Lowpowerhal CEF 136
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Cm3885
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Post Number: 369
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SSB is great but for the first timers the clarifier deal pretty much sorts out the guys that are serious SSB users and those that are not..
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Rollingrock
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Username: Rollingrock

Post Number: 17
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 5:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I order say a MAG 257 from Copper will the work already be done or do I need to take it someone?(work meaning unlock clarifier, tune, align and peak) Also, I have absolutely no experience with clarifiers so I would need some guidance.(first off, how to use the Darn Thing).


Thanks,

Rolling Rock 095
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Rollingrock
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Username: Rollingrock

Post Number: 18
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 6:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O.K. one more.. I'm looking at the Mag 257. Can anyone recc. a better radio for the price to get on SSB? Also do I have to make any special antenna changes?

Rolling Rock 095
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Tech808
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Username: Tech808

Post Number: 2229
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rolling Rock,

Check out the Link below for more information on the Magnum 257.

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodP03-01000+

The $30.00 Tune up and Conversion Does NOT include Clarifier Modification's.

Sorry but Copper does Not Modify the Clarifier's in Radio's.

Hope this help's.

Lon
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Ca346
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Post Number: 732
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 9:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you buy a radio from COPPER, you have to click on the extra box for the tuning and peaking you are talking about (adds about $30). That includes opening a 10 meter radio to include 11 meters. The question on the clarifier: On "most" radios the clarifier acts as a frequency adjustment knob. It changes and adjusts the transmitting and receiving frequency slightly.
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Buck
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Post Number: 875
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im pretty sure the clarifier is modded from the factory....Ive been known to be wrong though
Buck
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Chillydog
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Username: Chillydog

Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 9:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Copper,

OK, I may be a slow learner, but I finally get it. You (understandably) don't want questions regarding competent techs answered, unless the answer is "send it to Copper". Hey, it's your forum, and it's a good one! I'll stop sending in answers to these sorts of questions!

Very Best Regards,

Bob
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Tech808
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Post Number: 2246
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Copper Tech's and Moderator's are required to follow the same Forum Rules posted to the Left of the Forum as the Copper Forum Member's are.

Rule #1

Advertising
You will not advertise or solicit other members to buy, sell or peruse any products or services through this discussion forum.
You may not post links to direct competitors of Copper Electronics.


When the Copper Tech's or Moderator's read a Post or Reply that is not in line with the Forum Rules then we must Edit or Refuse it.

The rules are the same for everyone and every post.

We do not single anyone or any post out, as we just we follow the rules.

I hope this help's to explain this for the Copper Forum member's.

Lon
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Moderator558
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rolling

My experience with an "unlocked" clarifier was a trainwreck. When you unlock the clarifier your now tuning to someones voice whom you dont know so you may be wrong bringing you off frequency. Then the next guy gets on the air and hey he is off frequency so I will tune to him. Dang now the guy I just tuned before is off freq,,,,,,all these guy have junky radios!!

Look at your radio, your chasing people all over the frequency and they are chasing you and noone is on freq anymore. The clarifier when "Locked" adjusts your recieve only and not the transmit. less chasing around = more radio fun :-)

thats my short on it hope that helps

(in other words, I would not unlock the clarifier)
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Forummaster
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Post Number: 357
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chillydog,

In the past we have had many dealers and techs want to advertise here. Since we are not in the business to help our competitors advertise we haven't allowed it.

Rollingrock has an email address on his profile and anyone with information on a tech in his area can email him. This gets Rollingrock his information and helps us avoid advertising other dealers and techs.

Thanks for your understanding.
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Waverider
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 6:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rolling Rock make the jump to SSB, you'll not regret it. Less noise, more range ect. Don't be afraid of the clarifer, you'll get the hang of it quickly. I agree with "558" keep the clarifier locked. I put a radio in my wife's truck with an open clarifer and she refused to use it, too much trouble she said. I quickly got her another radio with the clarifier locked and she is a happy sidebander. Copper's has some great deals on SSB radios. For your first one you might want one without too many bells & whistles.
73's
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Sinner
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All my radios have "unlocked clarifiers"I would not have them any other way.
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Rolling Rock (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 3:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Sinner