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Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 10:45 am: |
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Can someone recommend an amp somewhere around 100 watts? I don't need anything larger that 100 watts in my area. It would be nice though to come up and over all the noise that is sometimes out there. Also, a link to said amp if possible. Thanks, Jay |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 4224 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 11:59 am: |
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Dexter30, Try the link below: http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodW90-KL200P+ Hope this helps. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 2:54 pm: |
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Thanks Lon. That pretty much fits the bill for what I'm looking for. How reliable are these units? Is there anywhere you know of where I can maybe get a user review on these? Thanks for helping, Jay |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 4228 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 4:57 pm: |
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Dexter30, I have personally used many of the KL-200P Amplifiers before. They are a Very Good Reliable little amp. I do Suggest you ONLY drive it with 2 to 2-1/2 watts of drive. Also it has the Built in Pre-Amp so I suggest if you are driving around be Careful around other's that may be also running an amplifier so you do not over load it. I also know of many people who use this little Amp for their base radios running it off of a power supply. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Cowboy_bob
New member Username: Cowboy_bob
Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 6:01 pm: |
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I've found the KL amps to be very reliable. I have previously had the 300 and the 500. Now I run a 5 pill "FATBOY" One thing...BUY THE SPECIAL INTERNAL FUSES from Copper that fit these amps...ONLY COPPER has these ¾" 12 watt fuses. The fuses are just a precautonary measure, in case you cross a wire or somethng, like I did! Duhhh |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 7:32 pm: |
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Thanks for helping out guys. The wife asked me what I want for my birthday and I think I know what the answer will be now. Later, Jay |
Patzerozero
Intermediate Member Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 252 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 8:25 pm: |
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my wife knows better than to ask me what i want...it's always a few thousand more than she's prepared to spend!! |
Highlander
Advanced Member Username: Highlander
Post Number: 714 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 8:29 pm: |
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For the same money, I like the KL-203 better than the 200p. |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 9:58 pm: |
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Interesting opinion Highlander. Can you tell me why this is? I'd like to have as many opinions as possible. Patzerozero, same thing here but I was well behaved this time and didn't go crazy. Besides, my birthday is so close to Christmas that I usually end up making out pretty well. 73's Jay |
Highlander
Advanced Member Username: Highlander
Post Number: 715 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:06 am: |
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Well, for one thing, I don't like the fact that the pre-amp on the 200p is always on. The other thing is the200p has one 1446 transistor. That's a 70 watt transistor, and they are calling it a 200? Dream on. The 203 has 3 RM-3 Mosfets in it, it will put out more power reliably than the 200p. Plus, I owned one(203), and since I sold it, it has been through several pairs of hands here in my area, and it is still kicking butt after nearly 3 years and at least 4 owners. |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 8:36 am: |
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I myself had some concerns about the pre-amp being on continuosly. As for the transistor, I don't have to much knowledge of such things but I'll take your word for it. I still have a week before I order so I'll take all this new knowledge into consideration. I guess I could always buy a seperate pre-amp in the future if I need one. 73's Jay |
Cowboy_bob
New member Username: Cowboy_bob
Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 9:09 am: |
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I see that the KL-200P has "3" switches. on/off...am/ssb and is the third prea-amp on/off??? |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 12:43 pm: |
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Yeah, good point. Is the pre-amp switchable on the 200P? There is three switches in the photo but I don't see any labels as to what each is for. Also, what transistors are used in 203 model and what is the rated wattage for these transistors. |
Dxuall
Junior Member Username: Dxuall
Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 2:31 pm: |
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what kind of power supply does it need to work properly?? (I mean how many amps?) |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 4:34 pm: |
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Dxuall, I'd say try a 28 amp supply just to be safe if you're going to use it as a base amp. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 4237 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:39 pm: |
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Dexter30, For help to determine what size Power Supply you need for Radios or Amplifiers check out the Article I posted in the Subscriber (Preview) Area » Articles » WHICH POWER SUPPLY DO YOU NEED? Hope this helps. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN |
Highlander
Advanced Member Username: Highlander
Post Number: 716 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:47 pm: |
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The KL-203 uses (3) RM-3 MosFets, they manufacture that part at RM Italy. I think they are rated for 30 or 40 watts each. |
Dexter30
Junior Member Username: Dexter30
Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:02 pm: |
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Lon, I recommended that he use the 28 amp supply just to be on the safe side. I went to the thread you suggested and it read as such: PR30 T70-00026, 28 amps, 6.25x6.25x10.25, 125 Watt Transmitters, VHF/UHF Ham Radios The question I have is do you use the wattage listed for am tx or ssb tx when determining such a thing? Thanks for the info Highlander. |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 4238 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:21 pm: |
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Dexter30, The KL Web site shows input 12 to 14 volts and it pulls between 8 and 11 Amps. So you always want to try and go bigger as you will probaby also be using a radio with it. So a 20 amp minimum (FOR AMP ONLY) would work, But a 25 or 30 Amp Power Supply would be much better. Always try and go as big as you can afford for future additions. Lon Tech808 CEF808 N9OSN
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