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Dexter30
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can someone recommend an amp somewhere around 100 watts? I don't need anything larger that 100 watts in my area. It would be nice though to come up and over all the noise that is sometimes out there. Also, a link to said amp if possible.

Thanks,
Jay
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Tech808
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Post Number: 4224
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dexter30,

Try the link below:

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodW90-KL200P+

Hope this helps.

Lon
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 2:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Lon. That pretty much fits the bill for what I'm looking for. How reliable are these units? Is there anywhere you know of where I can maybe get a user review on these?

Thanks for helping,
Jay
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Tech808
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Post Number: 4228
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Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 4:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dexter30,

I have personally used many of the KL-200P Amplifiers before.

They are a Very Good Reliable little amp.

I do Suggest you ONLY drive it with 2 to 2-1/2 watts of drive.

Also it has the Built in Pre-Amp so I suggest if you are driving around be Careful around other's that may be also running an amplifier so you do not over load it.

I also know of many people who use this little Amp for their base radios running it off of a power supply.

Lon
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Cowboy_bob
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 6:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've found the KL amps to be very reliable. I have previously had the 300 and the 500. Now I run a 5 pill "FATBOY" One thing...BUY THE SPECIAL INTERNAL FUSES from Copper that fit these amps...ONLY COPPER has these ¾" 12 watt fuses. The fuses are just a precautonary measure, in case you cross a wire or somethng, like I did! Duhhh
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 7:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for helping out guys. The wife asked me what I want for my birthday and I think I know what the answer will be now.

Later,
Jay
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 252
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 8:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my wife knows better than to ask me what i want...it's always a few thousand more than she's prepared to spend!!
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Highlander
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Post Number: 714
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the same money, I like the KL-203 better than the 200p.
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 16
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Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting opinion Highlander. Can you tell me why this is? I'd like to have as many opinions as possible.

Patzerozero, same thing here but I was well behaved this time and didn't go crazy. Besides, my birthday is so close to Christmas that I usually end up making out pretty well.

73's
Jay
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Highlander
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Post Number: 715
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, for one thing, I don't like the fact that the pre-amp on the 200p is always on. The other thing is the200p has one 1446 transistor. That's a 70 watt transistor, and they are calling it a 200? Dream on. The 203 has 3 RM-3 Mosfets in it, it will put out more power reliably than the 200p. Plus, I owned one(203), and since I sold it, it has been through several pairs of hands here in my area, and it is still kicking butt after nearly 3 years and at least 4 owners.
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 8:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I myself had some concerns about the pre-amp being on continuosly. As for the transistor, I don't have to much knowledge of such things but I'll take your word for it. I still have a week before I order so I'll take all this new knowledge into consideration. I guess I could always buy a seperate pre-amp in the future if I need one.

73's
Jay
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Cowboy_bob
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Post Number: 7
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see that the KL-200P has "3" switches. on/off...am/ssb and is the third prea-amp on/off???
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, good point. Is the pre-amp switchable on the 200P? There is three switches in the photo but I don't see any labels as to what each is for. Also, what transistors are used in 203 model and what is the rated wattage for these transistors.
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Dxuall
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what kind of power supply does it need to work properly?? (I mean how many amps?)
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 4:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dxuall, I'd say try a 28 amp supply just to be safe if you're going to use it as a base amp.
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dexter30,

For help to determine what size Power Supply you need for Radios or Amplifiers check out the Article I posted in the

Subscriber (Preview) Area
» Articles
» WHICH POWER SUPPLY DO YOU NEED?


Hope this helps.

Lon
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Highlander
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Post Number: 716
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The KL-203 uses (3) RM-3 MosFets, they manufacture that part at RM Italy. I think they are rated for 30 or 40 watts each.
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Dexter30
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon, I recommended that he use the 28 amp supply just to be on the safe side. I went to the thread you suggested and it read as such:
PR30 T70-00026, 28 amps, 6.25x6.25x10.25, 125 Watt Transmitters, VHF/UHF Ham Radios

The question I have is do you use the wattage listed for am tx or ssb tx when determining such a thing?

Thanks for the info Highlander.
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Tech808
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dexter30,

The KL Web site shows input 12 to 14 volts and it pulls between 8 and 11 Amps.

So you always want to try and go bigger as you will probaby also be using a radio with it.

So a 20 amp minimum (FOR AMP ONLY) would work, But a 25 or 30 Amp Power Supply would be much better.

Always try and go as big as you can afford for future additions.

Lon
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