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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 1:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I notice Dosy makes a switchbox that allows
you to run your beam on Vert and Horz at
the same time./ How would a Maco shooting Star
react in this position???/ What the advantages
and disavantages of using this mode.???

JIM/CENTRAL PA/CEF 375
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Geekster
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Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PDC made a PDC 4DX similar to this. You can use this for antenna (co)phasing. I wouldn't transmit through that position unless you have the antennas (co-phased) setup to do so.

A good thing this is for is when skip conditions occur. When the wave bounces at times it can change polarization and with the switch in that position you can get better RX results.

You can also use that position for a few other tricks too. Also if you have dual radios and want to monitor two seperate frequencies on CB for example. Just don't transmit unless you switch the coax position.

I am sure there are other uses for it too.
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477
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 5:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dosy makes a switch box that allows you to receive on vertical and horizontal at the same time only so you cannot transmit... is this correct? If so what is the going price of this product?
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Tech808
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Post Number: 4312
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

477,



D60-07020 DOSY SW-4 4 Position Switch Box
$ 27.99

Features

4 Position Coaxial Switch Box

Low Insertion Loss

Handles up to 1000 Watts

DOSY Professional Architecture

Printed Circuit Board

Automatic SWR Compensation

Vertical/Horizontal/Auxiliary/Horizontal + Vertical Positions


****


To Order one click on the Link Below:

http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodD60-07020+


Hope this helps.

Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN

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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 214
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, on this Vert+Horz position, you can listen,
but, not transmit./
What needs done to the Antenna to be able to
transmit???? And will this effect still using just Vert or Horz?????

JIM/CENTRAL PA/CEF 375
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Diggerodell
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Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i talked on mine in that position.........
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Bruce
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Post Number: 1882
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 7:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 2 boxes simular to that DOSY you CAN transmitt into both antennas at the same time however your VSWR will be high. Also remember even if you MATCH them you will have a 3 db loss in each.
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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 215
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, thanks Bruce & everyone./ Appreciate the
info!/

JIM/CENTRAL PA/CEF 375
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477
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Post Number: 88
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Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks LON for the info on the price. Now I can replace one of my old ones.




CEF:227Pa.
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Tech833
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Post Number: 909
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 5:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce,

You are incorrect. A little.

If you install the Dosy switch on your dual polarity beam, switch it to dual polarity position, and your coax cables are the EXACT same length and type of cable (preferable off the same spool), then you will have a cross polarised signal. If you shorten one coax by 1/4 electrical wavelength, you will have circular polarization. If you shorten one coax by 1/2 electrical wavelength, you will have a lossy dummy load.
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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 217
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Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tech 833,

How high does the SWR jump when switched to the
dual polarity position on the dosy???
With coaxs of equal length, same type.

JIM/CENTRAL PA/CEF 375
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Tech833
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Post Number: 914
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It all depends on your loads of the two cables summed. If each is a perfect 50 ohms, then the sum will be 25 ohms. Assuming the reactances are both j0, then your SWR will only be slightly higher. However, if the loads are both reactive the same side of j, then the SWR will get pretty high.
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Tech833
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Post Number: 917
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is how I use my Dosy antenna switch-



The Collins R390A reeiver is connected to the VERT input. The Zenith M660 receiver is connected to the HORIZ input. The Kenwood transceiver is connected to the AUX input. I can run the two SW receivers at the same time, no problem. In this way, I cannot accidentally transmit on the Kenwood into the Collins or the Zenith.
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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 224
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice setup Tech 833... thanks again

JIM/CENTRAL PA/CEF 375

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