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Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 276
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 2:25 am: | 
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Between 1978 and 1992, I used to work at various Radio and TV stations. FCC licenses were mandatory for me to work in the industry. So, I took classes specifically geared for me to pass the FCC tests. I have a FCC Radiotelephone Operator 1st class license (General Radiotelephone Certificate issued 1/85). I also have another FCC General Radiotelephone license, issued 8/5/80. Will these licenses back me up, if I was caught operating on 10 meter frequencies? Can I dabble in ham equipment with my licenses? Like I stated above, the classes I took to get these licences were to get the answers right during a FCC test. I have never taken any tests for novice, tech etc, nor have I taken any electronic theory classes. . Thanks for your answers in advance.
Wolverine. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 7:35 am: |
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They have nothing to do with ham radio. You get caught on 10 meters and they are GONE!
http://www.qrz.com look for tests they have them on that site. |
Geekster
Intermediate Member
Username: Geekster
Post Number: 140
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 8:43 am: |
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Wolverine,
If you passed those tests then the ham tests should be a breeze for you. |
Moderator558
Moderator
Username: Moderator558
Post Number: 230
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 2:00 pm: |
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I took the tests on QRZ until I was consitently passing above 95%. I would go there and take the technician test and see how you score and continue doing so. I would also recommend taking them on EHAM as well same questions but you get more of the question pool mixed in.
http://www.qrz.com/p/testing.pl
http://www.eham.net/exams/ |
That ELCO Guy (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 2:02 pm: |
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@ Wolverine
Bruce is right. In order to operate on 10 Meters or even transmit on ham gear (on legitimate bands) for purposes other than a legitimate emergency situation you need an FCC Issued Tech License or higher (depending on where you intend to transmit) issued by the FCC and at this time you also need the 5 WPM code certification. 10 M his considered HF aka High frequency territiory and the FCC requires 5 wpm to use the HF Bands at this time.
Testing materials and code study helpers can be obtained on the ARRL web site for a nominal price--pretty cheaply actually. If you have a ham radio club in your area you can probably convince someone to donate free of charge their study material once they are finished with it--just be sure that the material is the current question pool in use.
@ the G man...
I gather from the wording of post that as most people who are not hams having the code requirement behind them face that code requirement with a degree of Hmmmmmm why the code is so feared. I guess/imagine its just a matter of mind over matter.
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That ELCO Guy (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 2:06 pm: |
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@ 558...
Good evening. Just wanted to let ya know that the FCC has not yet dropped the 5 wpm code requirement for phone privledges. So in addition to the written test he might want to get some code software and practice, practice practice.
However if he did pass the tech written he could still get the no code tech license and operate vhf and uhf. |
Moderator558
Moderator
Username: Moderator558
Post Number: 231
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 2:45 pm: |
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ELCO I understand that completely but were at 1 step at a time. Lets all not forget to get 10 meter phone (talk) privledges you MUST take your tech test FIRST then you MUST pass code and General written.
You can take the code first and then the general written or take the written first then code. Just remember if you take the written part first you have only 1 year from that date to pass your code for the written test to count toward your general but taking the code first you have that out of the way forever and can take the written part whenever your ready.
If I were to do it all over again here is what I would do.
Technician - taking practice tests on QRZ and EHAM - Schedule a test
Code - It is alot easier than you think get Code Quick they have it here at Copper for sale - Schedule a test
General - taking practice tests on QRZ and EHAM - Schedule a test
you pass all those and you have 10 meter and more privledges then extra is just a question pool away  |
Bob_p
Advanced Member
Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 615
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 3:41 pm: |
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Just a note here before it gets too confusing.
You can pass the Technicians test, and pass the 5 wpm code and have you will have10 meter privileges up to 28.500. But to have it apply for your general you have to take the general written within a year after the code.
I used QRZ and Code Quick, and the code really isn't that bad. You just have to decide your going to do it, and dedicate the time to practice each day and you can get it done under a month. I did it in 30 or 31 days after I passed the general written (had to wait for a testing session). Geekster did it in 14 days! So I agree with that Elco Guy and think most peoples problem with code is simply mind over matter, or the willingness to do the work.
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That ELCO Guy (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 5:50 pm: |
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Hi 558
Just wanted you to know that I am an Extra Class VE for the ARRL. And what you say is quite true in re to the required elements.
Only one slight discrepancy, at least the way we run the testing in general for the techie plus people. We administer the code first asking those taking other written testing to remain quiet. If the applicant should pass code they move on to the written. Or fail code we give them the option of taking the written test. That way the applicant at least can walk away with a no code license--a certificate of completion in hand to encourage them to continue.
Of course if the person screwed up sooooo badly we politely tell them they did not pass and suggest that they study a little more, encourage them and ask them to retry again.
Later
That ELCO Guy
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Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift
Post Number: 179
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 10:16 pm: |
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That ELCO Guy (Unregistered Guest),
You wouldn't by any chance know DEADLY EYES would you? |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 277
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 2:25 am: |
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Thanks, for the information guys. I was under the impression that Broadcast industry 1st class licenses (General Radiotelephone), was the same as Ham radio licenses. Your imput has probably saved me from a large fine, and jail time to boot! I'm sooo busy right now, between the kids and work, I fear that I may never have the time to start all over and learn the code. But someway, somehow, I will make the time, even if it's in the future. Thanks again.
Wolverine. |
Mikefromms
Intermediate Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 342
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 9:19 am: |
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10 meters has been dead lately, at least in my area. Anyway, as someone else stated, since you have already shown you can pass FCC tests for radio/telephone license you should breeze through the ham requirements.
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Kirk
Intermediate Member
Username: Kirk
Post Number: 265
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:19 am: |
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I thought at one point (back before all the restructuring) that those with a General Radiotelephone had the ability to 'grandfather' into a General ticket per FCC (this was back in the mid 90's). Could this be what Wolverine was thinking or heard? |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 1952
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 12:02 pm: |
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NOT TRUE ....
"a General Radiotelephone had the ability to 'grandfather' "
TRUTH ....
IF YOU HAD A tech class license issued before the no-code tech came out ( mid 1980's ) Since you had taken the same written exam for the general and 5 wpm code and since the new requirement for general class was 5 wpm you had in effect passed a general class exam. SO you could convert it to general class. Now no codes who had taken the general written could go general by simply passing the code. |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 279
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 2:50 am: |
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Well, that's one less thing that I have to worry about. So now, all I have to do is study for the code. Moderator558, and Bruce, thanks for the excellent e.ham, and QRZ code links.
Wolverine. |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 280
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 3:09 am: |
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Bruce, one other thing, I read in another thread that you said that it is 99% true, that the FCC will drop the no code, and upgrade the tech license to the general class in mid 2006 to 2007. Will this benefit my situation if I wait? In other words, why take the code test, when it will be dropped in the future. Maybe then, my current license will be accepted for ham use, am I correct??. Your thread was under CB/Ham discussion.
Wolverine. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 1956
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 6:55 am: |
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NO your GMRT will never be good as a ham test you need to take at least the no-code. |
Tech291
Moderator
Username: Tech291
Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 7:05 am: |
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Bruce,I think that was the answer he was looking for,whether or not his gmrt license would allow him to OPERATE on the hf bands.I havnt checked latley,but 20 years ago a gmrt license did not give you any privleges to operate in the ham bands. |
Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 7:10 am: |
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Wolverine - Your GMRT license has nothing to do with the Amateur Radio Service. If you want an Amateur Radio license, you need to take and pass Amateur Radio license tests. |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 281
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 8:50 am: |
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OOOOOKAY, Racer X. Then that is what I'll have to do. Thanks.
Wolverine.
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Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 3:07 pm: |
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Sorry man, but it read like you really wanted to believe some rumor you heard years ago instead of the replies here. So I wanted to leave no doubt. |
Wolverine
Intermediate Member
Username: Wolverine
Post Number: 282
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 4:18 am: |
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No problem. |
