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Tech237
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Username: Tech237
Post Number: 134
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:14 am: | 
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OK I have aquestion. The race track uses several FRS radios to maintain comms on race days. Whats the rule about running data on FRS? We are looking at using packet or PSK to transfer line-ups, race results from the tower instead of reading out long lists of numbers in a noisey environment. |
Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce
Post Number: 2194
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 2:09 pm: |
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237 ....
This is part of the rule my guess is it applys to MURS too.
( From the internet )
"You should note that data communications in FRS are permissible only from stations (specific radio models) authorized that data emission mode. The use of add-on devices is prohibited by an FRS station, unless that radio has been certified to attach to that particular device. (See FRS Rule 4(c), 95.104(c).)
In the R&O, the FCC specifically refers to this continuing prohibition. In other words, you may not add a keyboard or other device to an FRS radio unless that radio is certified for use with that specific device. What this means in practicality is that brief text messaging between FRS units will be permissible only for those FRS radios subsequently designed and certified for such operation. "
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2ec837
Member
Username: 2ec837
Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 2:20 pm: |
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http://www.provide.net/~prsg/frsrules.htm |
Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
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| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 4:47 pm: |
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Wow. A commercial enterprise using FRS radios. I can't imagine why they would depend on a radio that sells for $10 at Walmart and could very easily be interfered with by malicious kids. That's why there is a business radio service. Even Walmart uses real radios - at least the ones in my area.
I guess I'll have to carry my FRS radio around more often to see what other businesses are that cheap. |
Tech808
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Username: Tech808
Post Number: 4798
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 5:13 pm: |
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Somehow I do not think operating them around a 1/2 or mile race track would cause any major problems for the users.
There is a group of maybe 25 to 30 coyote hunters around here that have used them for years covering a 1 to 2 mile area with no problems.
And most kids at a race track are more interested in watching the races than messing with radios or interfering with the officials running the race.
A lot of the smaller dirt tracks are on a very limited budget and if it works and saves money use it. 
And you already have a LOT of drivers & teams using them already to keep in touch with the pit crews.
When you are a car owner or track owner with the cost of fuel and equipment you try and save as much money as you can.
Been there done that.
Just my thoughts,
Lon
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Barracuda
Intermediate Member
Username: Barracuda
Post Number: 290
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 5:49 pm: |
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Tech237,
What frequency were they using? Could it be possible they were using GMRS instead of FRS? GMRS is less restricted than FRS.
Just a thought.
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Tech237
Moderator
Username: Tech237
Post Number: 135
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:10 pm: |
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Nope, they are FRS ( I bought the original radios) from Wal-Mart.
yes a 1/3 mile track and no radios in the cars so not much interference. Heck if it doesn't work we have a ham or two in the club so 2m might be used even.
Definitely not commerical in fact we are not allowed to make a profit (ruins our charity tax status).
Like I said stillnot sure which way I'll go and just looking at the legality side of FRS. |
Tech833
Moderator
Username: Tech833
Post Number: 997
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 5:46 pm: |
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It is illegal to run data on FRS. The only exception is Garmin's APRS data. so far, that is all that is allowed, and it is very restricted as far as transmission length, frequency, etc. |
