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Purplehaze
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Username: Purplehaze

Post Number: 57
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can i use a good grade rope for guides.. so i dont have to worrry about reflection.... soemthing else can i use 10,000 watt maco gammas for my moonraker 4's?
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Hotwire
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Post Number: 208
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use plastic coated guy wires and I dont think they cause me any trouble at all.
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Pig040
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Post Number: 737
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The military uses rope guy wires, I had them on my tower in NM, worked fine. I also used the plastic coated wire ones once, and they did the job too.
Rich
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Tech237
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 4-2004
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ive used both over the years, just make sure the rope is UV reistant for longer life
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Yankee
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, there is a UV treated 3/16 inch olive drab in color, polyester rope that is being used in amateur radio that I think would be a good item for Copper to carry. Same rope that the military is using. The rays of the sun will in time eat up regular polyester rope.
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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 394
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use ski rope which seems to work good.

JIM/PA/CEF 375
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Tech808
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Post Number: 5306
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can get Poly UV rated Marine Rope at your Local Walmart Store cheeper than Copper Could buy it, box it and then have you pay the shipping on it which would cost more than the rope its self.

Check the Sporting Goods Dept around the Boat supplies.

I just bought 100' of 5/16 on saturday for under $5.00 for Lowpowerhal to use as tie down rope when they were here and he did not need it.

Hope this helps,

Lon
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Road_warrior
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I call it ski rope...LOL
But, i use the same thing Tech 808
is talking about from Walmart.

JIM/PA/CEF 375
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Chainsawiowa
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use Dacron Line you can find it on ebay, Mine 175 lbs of strength. Doesn't stretch, its the best I have seen and cheap.
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Kid_vicious
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Post Number: 302
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmmm, UV rated poly rope. i guess i would trust it if i could get to it to check it every once in a while. i guess i would trust it if failure didnt mean major damage to my antenna system, not to mention an unlucky parked car!

Since i cannot check the rope often, and i dont want to pay to repair someone elses property, i'll spend the 16.00 for a 100' roll of 3/16" dacron covered antenna rope. it doesnt stretch, its rated, and its UV resistant. dont try to save money on the safety items. you'll be VERY sorry!
matt
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Scrapiron63
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Post Number: 787
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 8:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kid Vicious, that's the way I feel about it, the guy wires are the most important thing that keeps the tower standing. Why cut a few bucks on the most important thing. I learned this the hard way about 30 years ago, I had 70 feet of tower blow down because of rotted and stretched ropes for guys, and it had not been up that long. It was a pretty good wind, but not near enough to break steel wires. You mentioned someone else's property damage, what if some kids were out there when it came down. I'll save money somewhere else, but not on guy wires.
If you do use rope you better check it regular for wear and restretch it, when it gets to moving very much there's added pressure. Just my thoughts.
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Road_warrior
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Username: Road_warrior

Post Number: 399
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of my friends who is a ham operator has
the Dacron antenna rope./ Says its strong
& works great./ So, that looks like it
would be a good choice for guy wires.

JIM/PA/CEF 375
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Road_warrior
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Username: Road_warrior

Post Number: 400
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 2:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My 39ft tower is braketed to my house
at the 20ft mark & the 26 ft mark at the
peak./ It's not freestanding./ I used
the Walmart rope as an extra measure. It
seems to work great./ I'm going to go
look at my friends Dacron Antenna rope to
see what its like./ After seeing this post,
i started asking around to what type of
guy wires my friends were using./ Some
are using the Dacron Antenna rope & love it.

JIM/PA/CEF 375

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