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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808

Post Number: 5468
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Copper Forum Members,

Since the Copper Forum is read Worldwide and we have a World Wide Radio Club with member’s in 11 different countries as well as Copper Forum Members form over 19 different countries, lets ALL try and keep the Topics and Posts from being, Gender, Race, Religion, Language, or Nationality based / worded.

Before submitting your post please double check it before you click on submit, and ask yourself this 1 simple question,

Could my Post or Topic possibly be offensive to another Copper Forum Member or someone reading the Copper Forum?

If the answer is Yes or Maybe then please do not post it.

Please Remember it is not just the Copper Forum Member’s who will be reading your post's here on the Copper Forum but Copper Electronics also has thousands of people each week who check in, to read and see the Copper Forum for the first time and see what we have to offer.

Be kind, courteous and informative and think before you post and Have Fun!

Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift

Post Number: 203
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the Copper Forum administrators need to take a better look at the posts before they are being distributed around the world. The way I see it, you are as much to blame for what gets published here as the authors themselves. If you have any doubt in your minds, than you should think before you approve. I've seen tons of posts on this site that have "slpipped" past your approvals over the past couple years that could be offensive to many.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808

Post Number: 5476
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 3:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stickshift,

We are taking a better look at all posts before they are approved.

But it is no fun when the moderators have to read every post and then edit or refuse members posts due to content.

Then the members ask why was my post edited or refused.

Any time one of the Copper Forum Moderators has a question on a post or topic, the Moderator will ask the Copper Forummaster if it is acceptable.

Otherwise we follow the directions/instructions/rules that are given to us to follow by the Copper Forummaster when approving posts.


We are trying our hardest to keep things in line and the Copper Forum Members can also help us to do our job by following the Copper Forum Rules when making a post.

Any help that we can get from the Copper Forum Members will help us to help the members get their posts approved and posted quicker.

Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift

Post Number: 204
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know everyone wants a fun place to congregate and talk about different radio related issues. The question, "Could my Post or Topic possibly be offensive to another Copper Forum Member or someone reading the Copper Forum?", is a very good point indeed. The thing is, not everyone interprets material in the same manner. Some will look at a post and simply laugh, while others will take offense to the same post, and others will just blow it off all together. I have been at the giving and receiving end of these posts, as I'm sure most other members have at some point or another. I applaud EVERYONE for their input, be it a newbie, seasoned operator, moderator, tech, or whoever else. This is a great hobby, and we should remind ourselves of this. The key word here is "HOBBY".

The point I'm trying to make is where do we draw the line and say enough is enough. It's a hard choice to make.

I want to thank all members for all of the input they've supplied to this forum over the years. I especially want to thank the techs and forum master for all of their tireless efforts and countless approvals over the years. You guys have more patients than I could ever dream of for reading all the things you do, day in day out, on your time.

Enjoy the hobby folks! Life is whatever we make it.

73
stickshift
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808

Post Number: 5486
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 4:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, Here is the Information ie: Copper Forum Rules that the Copper Forum Members need to read before making a post.

The below information is located at the Top Left hand corner on the Forum here for every Copper Forum Member to read.

Forum Membership
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Forum Rules





Copper Forum Rules

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Please read this entire page before posting messages in our forum. If you don't, you may find that you inadvertently break our rules and have your messages refused or edited. Save yourself some time and learn the rules!



Advertising
You will not advertise or solicit other members to buy, sell or peruse any products or services through this discussion forum.
You may not post links or references to direct competitors of Copper Electronics.

Moderators Note!
This means if you post a link to a site and that site contains links to other sites in it that are competitors of Copper Electronics then your post will be Refused. The rest is Self-Explanatory




Personal Attacks, Flaming, Bashing, and Trolling
You will not post material that is knowingly defamatory, illegal, abusive, threatening, harassing, or racially offensive.
You will not persistently create conflict without contributing anything useful(trolling).
You will not violate a person's privacy by publishing against someone's will information that is private and personal.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory




Unregistered Visitors
Unregistered users may post in the areas that don't require registration using any name you like as long as that name is not used by a registered user. If you are caught impersonating another user you will be banned.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory




Obscene Material
You will not post material that is sexually or otherwise obscene and has no educational purpose or any significant relevance to an ongoing and legitimate discussion.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory


Copyrighted Material
You will not post, distribute or reproduce in any way any copyrighted material, trademarks, or other proprietary information without obtaining the prior written consent of the owner of such proprietary rights. Exceptions to this standard are covered by the Federal law regarding fair use, 17 USCS 107, and related case law, which holds that only partial excerpts of copyrighted material may be reproduced, and only as necessary for criticism or comment.

Moderators Note!
This Means if you post a link to a site with Copyrighted material then it will be refused unless Copper Electronics has permission from the person who copyrighted it to post it.




Private Property and Administrator Rights
You agree that if any of these rules are abused, the offending message may be refused or removed without prior notice, and if you repeatedly violate any of these rules or otherwise seek to disrupt the board then the administrators can ban you from the forum at their discretion.
You agree that this is private property and you are our guest, and that we (Copper Electronics, Inc.) reserve the right to refuse, delete or edit any message.
You agree that all material you post becomes the property of Copper Electronics, Inc.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory





Accuracy of Information
You recognize that we (Copper Electronics, Inc.) do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy of any information posted here, and that any message expresses the views of its author, not necessarily the views of this forum or any entity associated with this forum.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory




Your Responsibility
You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless Copper Electronics, Inc. or any of its agents. We (Copper Electronics, Inc.) also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory


Posting in Correct Section
Please create posts in the forum section best suited for them.}

Moderators Note!
Self-Explanatory


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Since less than 1% of the Copper Forum Members are having problems over and over again, as I have posted many times before, If you do not understand the Copper Forum Rules that are posted PLEASE e-mail the Copper Forummaster or one of the Copper Techs or Moderators and we will be more than happy to explain it to you.

The Copper Forum Rules that are posted seem very easy to read and understand, but should someone have a question on a post they can e-mail one of us before making that post for clarification on the rules.

You can find the Contact Information for the Forummaster and the Copper Techs and Moderators listed to the Left of the Forum here under:

Utilities
Search
Contact
User List
Users Online
Edit Profile


Just CLICK on: Contact, and it will bring our e-mail information up for you.

Hope this helps,

Lon
Tech808
CEF808
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Tech808@copperelectronics.com



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Lowpowerhal
Intermediate Member
Username: Lowpowerhal

Post Number: 417
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been on the forum and a copper forum member since July of 2003, and I have made 416 posts and never had a problem or any of them being edited or refused.

But I do follow the rules and guidelines, which does help.

If you have questions contact the Forummaster I’m sure any problems anyone has can be resolved.

Lowpowerhal
CEF #136
KCØSVC



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Bruce
Senior Member
Username: Bruce

Post Number: 2445
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon see if this might lightin things up ....

http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/tunes/tunes.asp?Var=S

OK HERE IS A FUNNY SONG MOST CAN RELATE TO ....

GO TO SELLING ALL MY JUNK ON E-BAY ...... And have a good laugh !
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Scrapiron63
Advanced Member
Username: Scrapiron63

Post Number: 818
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been on the forum since 2001, I believe since it started, and have had one post rejected that I can remember. It was a link or something.
I can't remember all the details, but Copper first tried an un-moderated forum. I was reading it at the time, don't remember if I joined or posted on it or not. Anyway, someone came on with some personal attacks to other posters, they had to stop that.
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Carls86fiero
New member
Username: Carls86fiero

Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All I would say is treat people with respect and they will respect you.

thank you,
carl has left the building...........lol
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Scrapiron63
Advanced Member
Username: Scrapiron63

Post Number: 821
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know this has probably been talked about enough, but I believe the reason for mis-understandings on forums is that things come across so much different in typed words as opposed to spoken words. In typed words you can't read the tone of the voice or how they are spoken. If we are talking in person, or even on the radio, and I made some stupid remark, and you call me an idiot, I can tell it's in a kidding way and we both laugh about it. That's an extreme, but that's how it works. When you type something like that, it's there's big and bold for everyone to read.

I've learned long ago sometimes when I would type up a post in haste, then read it again, I would wonder about it. I've then copied and pasted them to wordpad and let it "age" for several hours.
Then after the "aging" period, I would read the post and think why the heck did I ever think about posting this junk.
Even doing this I've posted some pretty lousy stuff, but at least if didn't get rejected.

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Stickshift
Intermediate Member
Username: Stickshift

Post Number: 206
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrapiron,

You can say that again. That's why I refuse to chat with my girlfriend on messenger. She can never tell when I'm joking or being serious. Needless to say it's got me in hot water a time or two.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808

Post Number: 5508
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrapiron63,

And just think since December 2001 you have 821 approved posts.

You must have read and followed the Copper Forum Rules after the Forummaster put them in place.

And just think, you were here long before any of the Copper Forum Techs and Moderators that are here now.

YOU DA GRANDDADY of the COPPER FORUM!

Keep on posting.

Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN
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Coyote
Intermediate Member
Username: Coyote

Post Number: 205
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone should preview their posts, read through it a couple times and think about it first before clicking that "post" button. I know I do.
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Bigbob
Senior Member
Username: Bigbob

Post Number: 1823
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm,I guess that makes me and scrap bros,but I must say not seeing those red asterisks allowing one to read into it what's not there,is refreshing,NO MORE FOUL LANGUAGE,MAN I LOVE THIS PLACE.Keep up the good work moderators,you ROCK.Bigbob
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Big_l
Junior Member
Username: Big_l

Post Number: 36
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it's wrong that you can promote copper products and no one else. If a novice operator is looking for a qualified tech and doesn't know any better then he would think that Copper is the only shop in the US.It's almost like your afraid that others may shop elsewhere, I know I would and do.

Moderator Note
Big_I,why would Copper Electronics who owns this site furnish free advertising for a competitor who does not help sponser it?
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Saddletramp025
Member
Username: Saddletramp025

Post Number: 81
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another thing to remember about Copper also. Like the homepage says, "Lowest Prices Guaranteed!" So why shop elsewhere.
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Kid_vicious
Intermediate Member
Username: Kid_vicious

Post Number: 404
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have felt the same way as Big I in the past, BUT!!!
in thinking it through, i figured out why i was wrong.
it seems as though those of us who's post number is in the triple digits feel that we have a "right" to post our opinions however we see fit. after all, we've been here for a long time right? wrong. at this moment every last one of us is on Copper's website. this is their town and they will govern how they see fit. we are all allowed to move out if we dont like the rules.
we can even start our own forum. trying to get enough people to go there to make it interesting is another story.
so think about it this way. if you had your own forum, would you allow your post? sarcasm aside, the rule is pretty simple. this is a business sponsored site, and the rules follow in accordance with that.
matt
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Crackerjack
Intermediate Member
Username: Crackerjack

Post Number: 309
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 4:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea. I don'y see ** **** or ********* R**** sponsoring a forumn and supplying Tech advise free. You want prices, send them an E-Mail and see how quick they reply. LOL....
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Pig040
Advanced Member
Username: Pig040

Post Number: 761
Registered: 7-2003


Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The prices thing is not a motto, if you check them, copperelectronics.comes out lower more than 90 percent of the time!
Rich
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Crackerjack
Intermediate Member
Username: Crackerjack

Post Number: 315
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can sometimes find slightly lower prices on the Internet but experience has taught me that when you have ANY problems with a product, you better have purchased from Coppers.

Also, you will be dealing with a complete lack of competant product support, if you didn't.
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Scrapiron63
Advanced Member
Username: Scrapiron63

Post Number: 836
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"YOU DA GRANDDADY of the COPPER FORUM!"

Lon, I don't mind being the granddady of the copper forum. I fit the age group since i'm also a g.granddaddy. I've got a pretty little great granddaugher almost a year old. She's a dandy.

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