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Tuna55
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Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 7:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any one have the RCI-2970n2 and what do you think of this radio.
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The radio is just like a 2950dx with some extra power. I have one and I like it. I use the radio on 10 meters and it works very good. It is a nice solid radio. It just depends on what you are looking for in a radio.
Mike
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I have a RCI-2950DX now. What I would like to know if there are any problems with the 2970n2
Its a new radio and thats why I would like to here from someone that has one.
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Mscott1212
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The radio is just like a 2950dx with some extra power. I have one and I like it. I use the radio on 10 meters and it works very good. It is a nice solid radio. It just depends on what you are looking for in a radio.
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Tuna55
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I just got my RCI-2970N2 today. Went down in the basement and hooked it up to my IMax. Wow !!!!!
Started out on 19 AM. Got out around 26 miles away and was told I sounded like I was next to him. Changed over to 38 Lower Side Band and my first contact was with 20012 in Grenada West Indies. He was on a RCI-2950 with an Imax. Also no problem with heat on this radio.
67Hundred in New Jersey 73's
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ya i like mine,ive had it since feb of this year and no problems so far,i did turn the wattage down to 250 watts tho,it was doing 325 when i got it and was running to warm,i have heard of several people getting them and having to turn them down,they wouldnt last long cranked up,i only know of one that blew a couple of mosfets,may be in the bias is set to high,i havent had mine checked but it does great at 250 watts
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Bob1
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How big power supply does it take to drive this puppy?

Thanks Bob
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Ok, This looks like a great box but I have one simple question?!?!?!? I have had the 2970 and I hated the receiver! Why? Because when you turn the radio on with no antenna connected at all, you hear a TON of WHITE noise!!! It was typical of these boxes and drove me nuts! Is the new one any better?
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Not sure since I never turn it on without a dummy load or antenna connected. It is boxed up and stored right now, or I would check for you.
73's
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I have the new 2970DX N2 Blackface and fine it to be a GREAT RADIO, had to drop the gain down in the receiver some because I use it as a Base radio but after that I could not ask for a better radio, it pull out the weak station very well and with 200 watts I can always get back to them its ***** in my book. Oldtimer
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I purchased the 2970N2 and its an incredible unit, only thing is it started to have an issue when i un keyed the mic. The meter on the radio would spike and sound like 30 s units of white noise. I would key up again and it would go away, i could also shut the unit off and would go away as well

But when i was taking a short video of the problem to send it to the shop i got it from the unthinkable happened, i went to duplicate the issue buy shutting the unit off and something popped on the inside. With burnt electrical smell woffting in my truck i disconnected it and shipped it back the next day WITH the video.

Im hoping they can fix the issue soon. Has anyone heard of this problem??
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I got my 2970N2 back and the tech told me that he has seen this problem before twice, he said that the RF loop was missing from factory causing the amp to stay keyed and eventually blew the mosfets and a resistor. The blown parts were in a bag when the radio arrived. Works as it did when i got it. Just thought i put it out there incase anyone has the same issue. 73's AM #18
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i have a 2970n2 and it worked great for the first week i had it but now its doing the same thing as your 2970n2 (American tadio 18) i noticed that when i tured it on it worked as it should but after i unkeyed my receive is gone so i checked all my cabels and everything is good and tight but if i grab the power/ground wire the relay would click and my receive would come back and i can turn it off and back on and sometimes it works and other times i have to touch the power wires to make the relay unkey my swr is a 1:1:1 on ch 1 and a 1:3:1 on ch 40

i dont use it much and when this started happaning i unhooked it to keep any other problems from popping up haha so does this sound like the same problem ?
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if its still under warranty id call ranger
thats too much money just to leave it sit.
just my opinion
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Sounds like RF coming in through your power cable, causing the relays to stay in the keyed state.

When you mentioned that you grabbed the power wires and the relays would release, that is a good indication. Have seen this many times.

You can instal a ferrite over the power cables where they enter the radio and it may solve the problem.
Your radio 'Mythbuster' since 1998
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sorry for the way late post but i still have the radio and it is under warranty i have used it a few times to hear truckers to find back ups on the freeway and grabing the power cables does not always unkey the builtin amp and neather does turning the ridao off an on i had it hooked up in my old crown vic and now i have an s10 and hooked it up in it an the same thing is happening was told by my dad that my old vic might not have a big enough alt to power the radio but my s10 does the same thing so i am vary sure its the radio i called ranger and talked to a guy i could barly understand lol and got some info on sending it in but just for Confirmation can someone give me the repair address or tell me if what i have is right radio

(shop supply 1672 main street sweet 228 ramona cal 92065)
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I'll be gettn one soon (2970), anyone know if the pyramid 46 amp copper sales will hold it?
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I would go with 60amps or higher follow the LORD Jesus.
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The pryamid 46 works on sideband good, radio does 200w swing, By the way, It even holds a good firm am carrier while on sideband too. And I dont have to worry about the am going out soon as it only keys 60 watts or so & swings backward when above 40 or 50 watts on am.
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You should have your set up check out if you have backward swing follow the Lord JESUS.
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If he has backward swing his dead key on am is set to high. Some people will run the watt's on the control on the radio wide open with a 50 or 60 watt dead key. This is a no, no, for this radio. It will get hot quicker and the radio is not made to operate this way. At least not for long. I suggest you by a service manual for this radio or at least download it. Then you will see what I am talking about. I run all my RCI radio's on a 2 to a 3 watt dead key and let it swing. If the radio is properly tuned correctly it will perform with forward swing. On ssb 200 watt is about 50 watt to much. 150 watt will sound better and the radio will run cooler. On today's radio the cooler they run the longer they last. Sure they will do that much power but would you run your car wide open every place you go? Sure they will do it but they will not last long.
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charlie brown is correct. also shouldnt have a carrier on ssb. ssb is all audio so shouldnt
have a carrier at all. id send send it to
back to ranger for a PROPER align and tune
as this is WAY outta wack
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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True, I wasnt planning on using it full power, Through years of trials & error, Like anyone, I just wanted to see what it would go up to, soon as I saw backward swing at 30 or 40 watts i knew not to go full blast, Just a twist up on the power & right back, Would like to run it around 10 watts or so when I get it fixed
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I would not run mine at a 10 watt dead key. It is better for the radio to run at a lower dead key. I would not run the dead key any more than a 6 watt dead key at best. My radio is much cooler at 2 to 3 watt dead key. In today's radio's heat is a major factor in a radio to break down. Also if you leave this radio in a very hot car with no protection from the sun the display will fail and the fan's in the radio will run all day and the radio will still be red hot to the touch.
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with a 2970 i think 10 watt deadkey max is safe
if it was the 2950 then id say 6-7 max deadkey.
also same in cold weather the displays go crazy
until it warms up
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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I've never used one in a vehicle, but I wouldnt want to. I've used 2950s 2970s for base units for several yrs though, Nothing compares
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well lets just say they dont like cold weather
below 30 degress especially.2950/70 are great
base setups i had a few. but i also like my
2510,5010 as much if not slightly more jmo
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Conner
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I hear a lot of those 2510s out there lately, They've been a very dependable clean sounding radio, In fact, usually when I hear one I mistake the audio for a Icom yaesu or kenwood
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I like the RCI DX radio's because they have very good receive, modulation, frequency range, and most of all they do not have drift on both am and ssb frequencies. Very stable. To put it even better ( THEY HAVE ABOUT EVERYTHING A PERSON COULD WANT IN A RADIO) Other radio's have trouble with temp's as well. It is even in the owner's manual about the temp's tolerance. In the summer I cover my radio display from the sun. In the winter I let the radio come up to temp. before I turn it on.
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I too have a 2510. Always had excellent audio. Had a Lincoln too but it ran away from home. Wish I'd kept it! Heard a bunch of them too.

Haven't had any of the RCIs yet. Sure like the looks of their bases but with my Kenwood TS-180S I can't justify the expenditure.
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I'm sure you have to pay Shipping to have one repaired under warranty to Ranger, But Does anyone know if Ranger sends it back at their cost?
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I think you would be satisfied with one of the ranger 29 series Press man... While owning a Kenwood, it may seem like a step down while purchasing, but you'd be suprised with the stability of the rangers
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Glad 2 say, sent my RCI 2970n2 to ranger 3 weeks ago & it came back last week. All ligned up on recieve on a.m. and swings forward.& am very satisfied. ( I'ts even stronger on output on sideband which was a concern as I thought they might 'dehorn' it, but not.
I had 2 pay for shipping it to them, which wasnt bad, S&H & Insured for $33. & They paid return shipping.
Best reports I ever had on a sideband radio.
Even though I am using a new d104 m6b hand mike it has an intermittent squeal, and I heard this mic doesnt match up too well with a 2970, but If anyone has any ideas Let me Know.I've tried grounding mike to radio,changing battery, turning mike down just takes mod down too much. Oddly,I can stop the squeal easy by wrapping my hand around the cord near the radio, But its not a loose connection, cause the closer I get to the cord before touching it,the more it goes away. I would really like to stick with this mic cause of the reports
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I use the 878 desk mike good sound , and the galaxy base /echo mike , Silver Eagle On my Ranger and Galaxy radios all sound great all my radios due over 100 watts follow the the Lord Jesus.
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I get a small squeal with bout every power mic I try, Even the galaxy base echo mic, Ive heard somethin bout a ferrite bead, wonder where I could get one & what I do with it
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check ya battery
may need to turn down power mic
or if mike is down may need to turn down mic gain,
start with the microphone.
could be a bad jumper. if using ANY jumpers disconnect them all and run just radio and mic and antenna.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Thanks Dale, I know it sounds stoneage, but Im running the radio on a 750 amp marine battery, May have somthn to do with it? I charge it with trickle charger bout every 2 days with radio unpluged. I never turn on radio while charging though, But one Question, some say to charge it often like I do, Some say to "let it run down" b4 charging? That sounds like it would be hard on the radio to let it run down. I have found my old turner 2 deskmic works best when turned down to 4 on the mic on sideband with great reports on clarity
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Conner, You can run the radio while the charger is being used. It will not do anything to the radio as long as your cable's for the charger is connected to the battery first then the power cable for the radio. The battery will act like a filter and you will not have noise. This will give you more constant power the radio need's. As far as your mic. squeal you most likely have some rf in your room causing this problem. Make sure your radio has a frame ground connected to the radio. This will help put any stray rf to ground.
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with the extra info ya provided conner i will say
that i DO agree with charlie brown about keeping
charger on all time.just keep it on trickle.
for future reference the marine battery you can
let it run down HOWEVER at or around 12 volts ya radios lights will prbaly start to dim. now a 12 volt car battery ya NEVER wanna run those down
ya did the right thing by getting a marine battery
and not just a 12 volt car battery
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Really appreciate you fellers for that info as I was unplugging everything so often. But Charlie Brown, I've been wondering if im getting enough ground from just a battery and the antenna pipe in the ground outside.
And I have found Charlie Brown,that running it on a low dead key on a.m. makes it really run cooler, as it really gets warm running it at 10 watts dead key, but 99 percent of the time im on sideband-27.385 & up & I just leave it wide open cause I dont stay keyed long and it swings from 50 to 200 watts depending on how close to the mic I am & how different words affect the watt meter. And It runs pretty cool on sideband, Never gets hot, I've always run sideband full power on radios and if I have to I just turn the mic gain down
Thanks again Dale & Charlie
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The 2970 is a pure waste of money in my opinion.
You can buy an Amateur Radio that does 100 watts for less money that does all the bands and you don't have to worry about swing and all that stuff.
If you operate 100 watts SSB - you have enough drive to run a Linear amplifier.
Most of the Rangers that I hear on the air sounds off frequency to me and their TX and RX never seems to match on 10 meters after they have been modified for 11 meters.
Even with just the Solorcon A99 and my GE 40 channel 3 watt AM radio I can talk up to 18 miles away with the local truck drivers..
Transmitting is all about location, location, location...
You can't substitute location with more power for talking and listening locally.
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conner with more power comes more heat
so yes its normal for ya radio to be warmer
running a higher deadkey on am.if people can
hear ya with a low deadkey then go ahead.
far as ground go to homedepot or lowes and
get a 9 foot ground rod mount it close to
ya pipe and pond into ground.using hose clamp
clamp the ground rod to the mast pipe also
get either bare wire or braided wire and run
a 1 inch piece from the ground rod to ya mast
id drill a hole in mast and wrap it to the bolt
or can use eyelets.i think this should ground your mast and antenna
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Dont buy one then
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conner with more power comes more heat
so yes its normal for ya radio to be warmer
running a higher deadkey on am.if people can
hear ya with a low deadkey then go ahead.
far as ground go to homedepot or lowes and
get a 9 foot ground rod mount it close to
ya pipe and pond into ground.using hose clamp
clamp the ground rod to the mast pipe also
get either bare wire or braided wire and run
a 1 inch piece from the ground rod to ya mast
id drill a hole in mast and wrap it to the bolt
or can use eyelets.i think this should ground your mast and antenna..

How do you figure that the Connex has more power then a Ranger>>? How do you figure power translates to range and performance?
How do you figure that one ground rod will act as a counterpoise for your antenna system?
I am wondering because RF ground is different then DC ground - say for your electrical system coming into your home that is only 60 Hz.

For an RF ground, you want to have many ground radials - at or near the surface, the one or two or four tower grounds should be away from the tower as far as possible, especially if the tower is cemented into the ground.

A jolt of lightning would crack the cement if the tower was struck by lightning.
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Post Number: 2083
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 5:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i never said anything about a connex.
and power can help ya to get out better
to a small degree.1 ground is better than no ground at all. AGAIN i never said my way the the greatest of greats. i think you better re-read posts
before commenting
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Conner
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Post Number: 33
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Posted on Monday, May 19, 2014 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I grounded it with a 6 ft metal rod today Dale, and so far I'm not getting the squeal from the turner 2 or the d104 handmic, May have fixed the problem, By the way There is a water well only 7 ft or so from my antenna mast, Thinking about dropping a long piece of wire down in it with a heavy piece of steel or metal tied 2 it, I'm thinking that would be a good ground Well isnt being used, Just covered up
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Dale
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Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 6:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the well woud only work if ya kept ground
wire short perferbly less than 9 feet.
to my best of understading it starts
to act as a antenna at or around 9 feet
cause 1/4 wave
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Possum_lodge
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Conner
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I grounded it with a 6 ft metal rod today Dale, and so far I'm not getting the squeal from the turner 2 or the d104 handmic, May have fixed the problem, By the way There is a water well only 7 ft or so from my antenna mast, Thinking about dropping a long piece of wire down in it with a heavy piece of steel or metal tied 2 it, I'm thinking that would be a good ground Well isnt being used, Just covered up

Fresh water is an insulator, not a conductor.

If you run a vertical, you need to put a counterpoise beneath the antenna at or near the surface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwbqP_RytOE
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Conner
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Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In case anyone is wondering if the 2970n2 will hold up at full power on sideband ,the tested answer is yes, I've run it with rf power wide open at 210 watts with a turner 2 deskmic just cracked open since May 2. If I hear you, you'll hear me and it's stable as any 2950 i've owned, Only drawback, A PS 52 amp power supply wont hold it. Bought one, It lasted a mere 8 days, Went with a 750 amp marine battery from walmart and charge it bout every 4 days and its never went down on amperage or voltage that way,I hardly ever talk A.M., but same kinda reports, Very Loud Mod
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Dale
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Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

will the rf knob control the power on ssb?
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Conner
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Posted on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, to a certain point, It really doesnt want to go below 60 watts on sideband when rf power is turned all the way down,but I can turn it on down with the mic gain or the mic if I need to. I use it as a base and the mounting bracket isnt really tall enough for table top mounting ,so for extra height & cooling, I have it mounted on a thick oak table top with the original bracket plus four straight metal plates 6 inches long with four holes in them, pointing upward & screwed into the original bracket. This raised it up bout 3 inches above the table top. I put the mounting bracket knobs in through the top holes of the plates & in to the radio loosely leaving the radio a little loose as to not squeeze the radio, Then directly under the radio, I cut a 3 inch square hole in the table top to squeeze in(countersink) a 3 inch computer fan which runs on a 9 volt adapter,blowing away from the bottom of the radio down under the table. And I really see a diffence as the rig used to get warm all the way to the front, Now not
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Charliebrown
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Post Number: 363
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Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2014 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most people over tune the 2970n2. No radio will ever perform well when over driven, over modulated and over powered. Of course this will give this radio and any other a bad rap. But this is not a problem of the radio just those with little knowledge of what they are doing and a golden screw driver. Take my advice. Let a true tech with the proper equipment tune your radio. It will take more than a watt and modulation meter to tune a radio properly. Now I am not speaking of those people that have tuned the radio's on their own properly. Just those that will pull the limiter and over tune the radio to where it does sound terrible. I have nothing but good report's from people both local and distant. I will always buy the RCI DX series radio's and the 2970n2 as long as they make them. However I do think that they are priced to high. Yes you can get a ham radio cheaper with more frequency range and the same power but, you better make your ham ticket if you use one.
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Conner
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Hey CharlieBrown, how you doing?, If I audio in the mic while mic is turned up, ye 210, But when dxing, Its turned up to only 3 or 4 out of 20. Most words go into the watt meter showing between 80 to 150, Depending. But I agree with you so much about a real tech, Which there are none around here, So I let Copper do it, But my 2970n2 had an issue when new which RCI made clear on my reciept from RCI when I sent it to them, that it had nothing to do with alignment at Copper, & when I got it back, They had actually turned up SSB power during repair, And I say again, Had nothing to do with Copper Electronics.
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Charliebrown
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Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 9:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Conner, Yes we have no tech's around here as well. The so called tech's here do pull the limiter on every radio they get their hand's on. If they only knew that this will make the radio sound so bad on ssb. Yes on side band if the power is set to low you will get the effect you had said also. It is so good to hear from a person that does know that more is not always better and that to much audio or power does sound terrible also. Do not get me wrong I am not talking of a little power but to much. But, try to get other's to believe that is a very hard thing to do. Have a great day and thank you for your input Conner.
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Press_man
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Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2014 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Charlie;

There are techs who frequent this forum. Not limiter cutters either.
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Charliebrown
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Post Number: 365
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Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2014 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello press man. I know that but here where I live it would seem that cutting the mod limiter is all they know. As I had said before I am not talking about those that know how to do the tune right. I guess I could have been more clear about those I had been speaking of. Not those I know on this sight. I had got an RCI used and the person that had cut the mod limiter wrote his handle and date when he had done this. He does radio repair and tune. You would think by now people would have been taught better. The only people that should be offended should be those that I am speaking of. Press Man it is good to hear from you and I thank you for your post. I consider all on this forum as a friend. I am sure some of you have got a used radio at some point in time that had a limiter cut or even over tuned or butchered.
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Dale
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Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 7:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

charliebrown ive had several radios with clip limiters [ not my choice]. lucky for me i have a few good techs around here. for you take a drive
on the nearest interstate monitor ch. 19 and
ask truckers for closest cb shop.mine is 70 miles away from my home so ya may have to go for a nice sat or sun drive.if ya trust ups or fedex there are places online that can TRUELY tune a radio.STAY CLEAR of any place using phrases like supertune ,swing mod, swing kit
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Revpo
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Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 8:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have to find a shop first, few and far between anymore.
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Charliebrown
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Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 9:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Dale. I guess I will start back buying new radio's and let Copper do the tune. I could do it myself but they do it better.
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Conner
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 3:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Around here guys, There are 2 choices if your a sidebander and in need of a tech, drop your radio off at someones house who has a building out back & reminds you of Mr. Haney from Green Acres, & hope it dont sound like those others that he (hehe) fixed. & will fix again. & eventually trade you out of it. I hear that so much around here. - Second choice, do what I have & Charlie Brown said, Trust Copper Electronics. I've bought at least five 29 series & had them set em up & have never worried about it after the first time. It's a no brainer, unless you have a good tech nearby. Used to be 2 around here, But they've give it up a long time ago.
I was literaly made fun of on the air when I first bought this 2970n2 by some distant A.M. locals for buying one mail order & having it setup there when I coulda trusted their local tech, But after listening to their radios a while, I understand why they wont even try sideband on theirs. Shew! I'm glad Copper is there for us.
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Dale
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if ya can do ya own repairs thats best.
if u can solder really good you can fix
the audio limiter yourself.
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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Press_man
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Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2014 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been buying older radios, when I have time I replace all the electrolytic caps and replace and expand the limiter. Some of the mods out there require the limiter be removed and controlled with the mic gain and or power mic. It can be done, but, the temptation is there to WATCH HER SWANG!

Some of the best ideas now are to have the radio aligned, have the receive checked to see if replacing diodes are needed to get rid of excess noise, some radios have the RIGHT STUFF and just need to be tuned properly.

Then if you want more, buy an amp. ( For research only! )
73 Pressman
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Dale
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Post Number: 2115
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Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

those mods that defeat the limiter are junk
imho. that SWING you see on your meter is
just over modulation.your best tune will happen
if ya just use whats there in radio L-tuning cans
and vr adjustments. for more audio add a power mic
all that sio called SWING is usually 9 timmes outta 10 the main cause for tvi issues.and main
reason for channel splashing. just listen to channel 6
dale/a.k.a.hotrod
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