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Connie Lingus
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 5:50 am: | 
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are there any tips or tricks available for this old war horse |
Taz
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 7:52 am: |
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Sure is, this is what I found.
135 XLR R134 or CUT R125 for modulation
L3 for am power R130 for ssb
135(OLD) CUT Q25 for modulation
T14, T15, L3, C116 for am power (ssb)R136
Taz |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 3:10 pm: |
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Except for restoring it as a "classic" why? |
Taz
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 9:08 pm: |
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i would leave it alone. |
Taz
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 9:09 pm: |
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put it on the shelf and look at it |
409
| | Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 5:48 am: |
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Radio's don't last long if all you do is LOOK at them...... |
Taz
| | Posted on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:56 pm: |
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haha, well
different folks different strokes! |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 10:18 pm: |
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Its sad that a radio like this isn't leagal but money talks and the FCC lissened. Still its a nice radio even if ALL you can do is look at it! |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 2:41 pm: |
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Bruce, are you trying to scare this guy into not using his 135 cobra. I've never seen a man so hung up on the word leagal, lagel, leegal, or however your gonna spell it the next time. I know, you've got that letter, I don't know what the purpose of it was or why you would worry about the legality of a 23 channel radio with all the other stuff going on. As I told you before, you can go to the FCC website, search 40 CB, read the question and answer section, and it plainly answers to the fact the 23 channel radios were legal after the 40s came out. Maybe they changed that later, but its still there, and I believe if those big bad fcc guys were about to hang you for using a 23 channel, you would have a little defense. You know as well as I, the fcc is not worrying about the 23 channel CBs, or any CB for that matter, unless some fool like that one in Florida just keeps pushing them. I know some of the old legal goats have even tried hard to keep them from selling on e-bay, I guess it burns their a** a little because we can get more for a mint condition Browning than they can for a late model HF rig. That's just life Bruce, your gonna have to live with it.
Now to answer the orginial question about the 135 cobra. You can do quite a bit with that radio, I would not clip anything, they have lots of mod, you might need to turn the adjustment up for modulation and SSB. It's easy to expand the channels, you can get 23 more channels with one crystal, add two crystals, and have 23 uppers and 23 lowers. A siltronix model 90 VFO number 3 works real well, it will give you lots of channels. Or any of the other VFO's in the 16 meg range will work. The 135 takes the expanded freq ok also, without a lot of tuning. It was the same board as the Cobra 132 mobil, and also the browning LTD mobil. Enjoy your old classic radio, after all, its yours.
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409
| | Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 2:19 am: |
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I have radios from back in the 60's an 70's. The FCC can't tell by listening how old they are. They sound as clean as any on the band. |
bruce
| | Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:35 pm: |
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409 i agree there are very good clean radios built back then The HE-15 and HE-20 were nice sets for that day. As for Scrapiron whay you said was true for a while but the FCC does not allow their use anymore.... i think its over kill but cb is a typeaccepted band and if they yank it thats it. I dont care REALY but im not going to back down from this fact just because someone dosnt like it and like i have stated feel free to prove me wrong otherwise back off. |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Bruce, your right about that, you can believe however you like, that's the great thing about our country, even those that have been preaching 'no taxes and no rules', and we know how ridiculous that it. But telling that guy he has a nice radio, but all he can do is look at it, is kinda far-fetched. You could go up and down this forum and tell everyone thats posting about modifying radios, using amplifiers and export radios, and most everything mentioned here, the same thing, they are not legal. The complete FCC documents covering Citizens Band radio is online, I've read the whole thing, the only rule for legal radios is that they must be type-excepted, with the sticker on them, and the 23 channels were that. Now the rules are real plain about no amplifiers of any kind, no modification of radios, no more that 4 watts carrier power, 12 watts PEP, frequency's allowed are center slot of channel 1 thur 40, no sliding off center, no playing of music, beeps, noise makers, whistling or audio-ing, coded or scrambled messages. I guess that would cover roger beeps and the ping of my eagles. Oh yeah, that one is still there about talking over 5 minutes, its below. Hell i've heard those superbowl guys hollow, test-test-test-test-test, longer than 5 minutes. I wonder if anyone follows all these rules. Have you been screwdriving your CB Bruce?hahaha scrapiron
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PART 95--PERSONAL RADIO SERVICES--Table of Contents
Subpart D--Citizens Band (CB) Radio Service
Sec. 95.416 (CB Rule 16) Do I have to limit the length of my communications?
(a) You must limit your CB communications to the minimum practical
time.
(b) If you are communicating with another CB station or stations,
you, and the stations communicating with you, must limit each of your
conversations to no more than five continuous minutes.
(c) At the end of your conversation, you, and the stations
communicating with you, must not transmit again for at least one minute.
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Subpart D--Citizens Band (CB) Radio Service
Sec. 95.409 (CB Rule 9) What equipment may I use at my CB station?
(a) You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB
station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the
certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. You may examine a
list of certificated equipment at any FCC Field Office or at FCC
Headquarters. Use of a transmitter which is not FCC certificated voids
your authority to operate the station.
(b) You must not make, or have made, any internal modification to a
certificated CB transmitter. (See CB Rule 25, Sec. 95.425). Any internal
modification to a certificated CB transmitter cancels the certification,
and use of such a transmitter voids your authority to operate the
station.
[48 FR 24894, June 3, 1983, as amended at 63 FR 36610, July 7, 1998] |
bruce
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 3:05 pm: |
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I dont care
BUT to answer your question
My radio has NOT been tampered with even though if i wanted too i could and i dont care if anyone turns a radio into a pile of dirt right now i can and do work from 1.8 mhz to 440 mhz and would work even more if i could find space in my 79 caddy to put it. You seem to confuse the fact that my comment was a fact and meet to be just that not a "scare " just a fact and while we are at it why toss good money into a radio when a 90 dollar radio will give 10 times the frequencys all modes even fm and digital readout. If people want to be stupid and convert them go to it
Bottom line its not my problem
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409
| | Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 4:58 am: |
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I don't think very many operators junked their old 23ch CBs just because the FCC said they should. Just wishful thinking on there part. That would be like junking all your old less efficent appliances just because BIG BROTHER said you should.......ain't gonna happen !! |
bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 8:26 pm: |
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409
I made no bones i aggree they screw up they gave in to help the sellers keep selling the offical stance is yank the acceptance and by this time 25 years down the road the FCC figured none would be left they did this to the uhf / vhf market too the old wideband stuff cant be used anymore. Sadly you know as well as i do some REALY nice well made radios got bounced too.... along with the $19 junk. The cost of "EXPORT" radios is so low now why would anyone even think of tossing money into converting one of these sets .... we are not talking as a colectible fixing one up i done that to 2 radios i bought new in the 60's But they are not going on the air. O one final point the use of these radios on 10 meters is LEAGAL many old hygains found a new life their.
bruce |
409
| | Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 4:48 am: |
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Another stupid rule that's not enforceable. |
bruce
| | Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 9:16 pm: |
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409
correct as inforcable as liner amps working skip .....ect ......ect. |
409
| | Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 3:04 am: |
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That means non-enforcable. Just something on paper with no real meaning. |
bruce
| | Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 2:57 pm: |
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409
Ive talked with them involving the use of older radios on the ham bands inc these sets they can be converted for ham use since this REMOVES them from cb service. On the FCC web site you can type in the FCC id on the back of a radio and it wil tell you if that number is still on record if it is not Hummm could be a mistake but... The public notice still stands it is not just paper it is the law but at the same time like linears unless your the unlucky one who gets caught they are not comming after you.... it will be treated as illeagal equiptment no more no less.
bruce |
409
| | Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 4:27 pm: |
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I don't think they will be knocking down any doors to get at all those old CB's that still see some use. Just like many of the other junk laws on todays books.....they get ignored . |
JSS
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 1:38 pm: |
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Okay, I am a little confused. I realize that I am a novice to the cb world, but I didn't know that the old 23 channel radios have been banned. Have they? I was thinking about getting an old 23 channel Midland. Any opinion on the old Midlands? If they have been banned, then for what reason? |
Biged
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 7:17 pm: |
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Scrappy,
I have read MANY posts from Bruce about the legal and illegal side of the 10 & 11 meter band. He has sure opened my eyes to alot of stuff that I did not know. When Bruce posts on a legal subject, he is not pushing the issue on anyone. He is very much on track when it comes to the FCC's rules and regulations. Not once have I seen him down anybody for running an amplifier, removing the limiter or anything of that nature. As a matter of fact, he has helped people out and given usefull information on linears, knowing that it will most likely be used on chicken band. I, myself enjoy reading Bruce's posts. He, by far has more knowledge than I ever will about RF. If you dont want to read what he has to say, it is easy to scroll right past it. If I hear someone on channel 19 that is being ignorent, I dont tell them to shut up or go to another channel, I simply turn the radio off. |
bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 03, 2002 - 7:23 pm: |
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JSS
Here i go and get into trouble again.....
1) as of Jan 1 1978 the sale of ANY 23 ch cb radio became illeagal IF you owned the set and had the bill of sale you could continue to use it.
2) 2 reasons a lot of pressure form the dealers not wanting to have a huge supply of used radios and the FACT that most were junk anyway.
You can write the FCC at e-mail ghendric@fcc.gov and ask him is your set somehow was not banded a very limited group was already approved for 40 ch use and was " remanufacured " later finaly except for this group of radios and as of about one year ago all use of these radios was now banded
LAST I dont make rules and lets not yell at the messager. I do have copys of the FCC public notice if you e-mail me ill send you a copy of it |
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