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Chris
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm a novice to the CB's and was just wanting some information on power mics. I have a Cobra 25 LTD Classic with a Wilson 1000 Whip. Someone recommened that I get a power mic with echo.
First, what and how is a power mic going to help me? And second, What is echo? And do I have to install anything in my radio or is it all in the mike? Thanks for any response....
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bruce
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris FORGET THE ECHO there is no need for it and no one can show me there is. Now if you want a power mike copper has a bunch of them and they will install the plug foe a reasonable price too.
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Alsworld
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 8:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

a power microphone increases your audio, makes you louder. Echo mics can also be (or not be) power mics but you can add echo to your voice and even reverb as well. It is up to you if you want the echo or not. Most power mics have a 9volt battery in them that gives it the power to amplify your voice.

I would suggest if you just want to sound loud and crystal clear, look at the Astatic D104 M6 versions here on Copper. These sound superior and very clean, but no echo. Someone else can give you pointers on echo mics.

Ask around for a good sounding microphone, as not all power mics sound great. Stay away from cheap junk or that is what you will sound like, just amplified :) . Enjoy the shopping.

Alsworld
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Chris
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Bruce and Alsworld.
Some good info. I just want to sound clear, not so much loud. People tell me my rig sounds good now, but I want it a little better.
Thanks again for the info..

Chris in Arizona
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Tech671
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The D104m6b or 575m6 from astatic are both power mikes that would sound excellent on your 25. I do NOT use power mikes to make me louder, but to increase fidelity. There is one echo-power mike that will do this as well. The "Xtreme 2018". When adjusted properly, you'll have awesome fidelity and a hint of fullness like in a warehouse or stadium. I'm running this right now on a Galaxy 949 with the "671 tune" and get more flowers than I can fit in my mobile.
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Chris
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 2:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tech671 for the info. I was looking at the cobra power mic here at Copper and was wandering what you all thought of the Cobra Mics? Would you still pick the Astatic over it? Just curiuos cause I haven't heard anyone run a Cobra power Mic?
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Chris
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 2:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Taz,
Na, Im not that Chris. I'm down here in Tucson, where in Arizona are you?
My handle is: Counrty Boy
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Alsworld
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 9:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,

I have a friend with a Cobra power mic with echo. His microphone does sound very good. He likes echo whereas for me, I really don't care much for it. I have a cheaper Cobra power mic and it also sounds pretty clean.

But....my personal preference is the Astatic D104 M6. There is a B version (black) with the chrome screen and C version is all chrome. Both use the D104 head like on the larger base mics. These are really superior mics. Just holding the two in your hand and the weight is really different with the Astatic (heavier). Okay, maybe I am an idiot by comparing the heavier weight to better quality but that's just my opinion with no facts to back it up.

I prefer the Astatic myself as the better of the two choices, but once again, just my opinion. Remember, there is no echo in the mic I mention. On the Astatic, I could crank it all the way up and never distort whatsoever. That really impressed my local friend with the Cobra. Of course I don't run it that way though, just a test.

Chris, these are just my opinions. The Cobras are not a bad sounding mic though.

Alsworld
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Chris
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 4:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Alsworld,
Some good info. Well with what I have heard for you guys and what the locals are saying, The Astatis seems to be the perfered. I'll keep in informed on which mike I choice and how it sounds.

Thanks again

Chris
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Alsworld
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One more thing I may not have clarified, I have a Cobra power mic on my little radio, but run the Astatic mic on my Lincoln. I do have both microphones to compare each other to so that is where my opinions come from.

Good Hunting

Alsworld
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Chris
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 3:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Cobra just caught my eye because of the style and I was thinking that since I have a Cobra rig might as well have a set? Well thanks again for all info. I'm glad I found this sight. And I'm sure you will see more often on here once I get in the swing of things.

Chris in Arizona
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Beth West
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 5:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have an Astatic D104-M6C handheld mic and need to wire it to a Cobra 148 GTL. Does anyone know the wiring order? Thanks for any info.
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Alsworld
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here ya go. http://www.copperelectronics.com/mics/Cobra.html

and if that link does not work, from the home page of Copper Electronics, look on the left hand side in the red where is says "Support". Click there and follow the micrphone wiring all the way to your cobra. It gives standard wiring, then Astatic wiring for the Cobra.

You should be in business!

Alsworld
799 North West Florida
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larry w. smitheson (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know anything about the wiring on the Astatic TMD-107-E handmic? Need to wire it to a Kenwood 8-pin radio. Thanks! Larry
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2004 - 8:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry,

About all I can offer is the List below which might help for Most Astatic Mic's.

most 4 pin radios

white 1
shield 4
yellow n/c
blue 3
red 2
black n/c


model(s) wire color pin number
most 5 pin radios

white 1
shield 4
yellow n/c
blue 5
red 2


black n/c
model(s) wire color pin number
most 6 pin radios

white 1
shield 6
yellow n/c
blue 6
red 2


black n/c
model(s) wire color pin number
most 8 pin radios

white 1
shield 7
yellow n/c
blue 8
red 2
black n/c
Hope this can help.

Lon
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Barefoot
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 4:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,
A superstar DM452 mic would work very well for you.
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larry w. smitheson (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your help Lon. I appreciate it......
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Tech808
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Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are Welcome!

Lon
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Waterboy
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Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 9:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please can any one tell me if the mic. from my galaxy 2517 will fit a Cobra 2000gtl or 2000 with on changes. thanks
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Kc0gxz
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Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Waterboy

No, they will not interchange. The Cobra-2000 has a 5 pin mic jack and the Galaxy has a 4 pin jack.

Jeff, kc0gxz.
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Oppie
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Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does anyone know how to wire a midland 77-104 with a d 104 tug (9)
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Tech808
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Posted on Friday, December 24, 2004 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oppie.

ASTATIC TUG9 to MIDLAND 77-104

PIN #1 ~ WHITE
PIN #2 ~ RED
PIN #3 ~ N/C
PIN #4 ~ SHIELD & BLUE
PIN #5 ~ BLACK
YELLOW N/C
Hope this helps,

Lon
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Heavy_chevy
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Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenwood mc-60 to Galaxy 2527.....can anyone help me??
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Tech808
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heavy_chevy,

WELCOME TO THE COPPER FORUM!

Look to the Left of the Forum here and you will see:

Tools
Mic. Wiring
Frequency Chart
CB & Ham Lingo
Modification List


CLICK on Mic.Wiring and it should help you.

Lon
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Heavy_chevy
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks tech808, but I had already looked, and all I seen was for Galaxy 4-pin. My 2527 is a 6-pin.
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Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look at the wiring for the Ranger 2950/2990 - it should be the same. You can verify by using a clip lead and grounding the pins individually.
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Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 4:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the Kenwood 8 pin microphone pinout:

1 - Mic Audio
2 - STBY (PTT)
3 - Down
4 - Up
5 - +8V
6 - NC - NC
7 - Shield - GND (Mic)
8 - Black - GND (STBY)

This is the 2950's microphone pinout:

1 - Audio Shield (GND)
2 - Audio
3 - TX
4 - RX
5 - UP
6 - Down

Kenwood radios are all relay switched so they don't have a pin for receive which could make it tricky to wire the microphone for your radio. If your 2527 has receive audio with the microphone disconnected you don't need to worry about connecting anything to pin 4.

Good luck!
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Heavy_chevy
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Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2005 - 6:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks RACERX. Yes, my 2527 does recieve with the microphone disconnected, so I should be good to go. I'll wire it tomorrow, and give a follow up report. Much appreciated!
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Heavy_chevy
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Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 6:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got it....finally. KENWOOD MC-60 TO GALAXY 2527, 1-SHEILD & GREEN/ 2-YELLOW/ 3-BLACK/4-NO CONNECTION/ 5-RED/ 6-BLUE.
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Racer X (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great! How do you like it? Do the up/down buttons work? I don't know how they work on your radio, but the microphone just grounds the corresponding pins when the buttons are depressed which is pretty standard.
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Heavy_chevy
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Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, the channel up & down buttons do work. I like the mic. I've ran it on everything I have, and it works good on all my radios. Nothing but good reports. It has no volume adjustment though, so you need a radio that has a mic gain.

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