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DAN
| | Posted on Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 8:47 am: | 
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can any one give me any sugestion. i have a galaxy saturn turbo that been peek out and iam thinking of running a amp on it iam looking towards the x-force amps any help would be helpfull. tks Dan |
Tech808
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 8:09 am: |
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Dan,
My suggestion would be the KLV-1000P Base Amplifier.
See link below:
http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodW90-00110+
We have used the KLV-1000 with the 1st Sargant's TR696F SSB Base and have had great results. 
ALso check out the REVIEW we wrote on the KLV-1000
in the Subscriber (Preview) Section under Product Review's.
Just a Suggestion.
Lon
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Bullet
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 11:57 am: |
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Dan,
id sugest you buy a nice ham amplifier and not a ham amp (wink wink) that was really made with the cber in mind.
id also stay away from those transister amps as they tend to be notorious for tvi problems.
its hard to say exactly because i dont know what power range or how much money your looking to spend on a amp.
but you cant go wrong with these amps, and they'll provide you with rock solid proformance.
you can get them for less money than that klv and other cb geared amps.
besides horizontal sweep tubes are not going to last as 1/2 as long or take near as much punishment that a transmitt tube will.
1kw amps i like for that radio are.
yeasue 2100 series that use a pair of 572b's.
heathkit sb200 again a pair of 572b's
ameritron has some 811a amps
ameritrons single 3-500z amp
2kw amplifiers i like for the turbo are
kenwoods 922, runs a pair of 3-500z's(nice amp)
heathkit sb220, pair of 3-500z's (the one i use)
drake L4B, again a pair of 3-500z's
ameritron AL 1200,single 3cx1200a7 (strong tube)
ameritron AL 1500,single 3cx1500a7 2kw with ease.
and anything made by saul, my amp tech.
look on ebay or the ham swap shops im sure youll see many of these amps thier for sale and at a reasonable price.
i gave $550 for my sb220 and thier is now comparision on quality or performance
between this and any cb minded ham amp ive ever run. nothing but transmitt tubes for me from here out.
i even bought another single 3-500z amp as a back up, like i did when i ran the phantom 500's.
im having both the phantoms freshened up with new hv capacitors,new 3amp rectifiers diodes in place of the 2 amp ones,and a modification to draw less idle current when in rec mode (bias change) but i cant remember the details.
then im going to sell them and a extra bird type 43 watt meter and go live like a king in mexico.. lol  |
Nitemare 5AE586
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 2:15 pm: |
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Looking for a good high drive amp for my DX 2527 running a Comet beam.... |
Tech808
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:01 am: |
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Nitemare
5AE586
Read my post above.
Lon
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RCI 2990
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 3:23 pm: |
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Get a Heatrhkit SB 220!!!! It can be modded to run on AM with a relay circuit and it uses REAL TX tubes not TV sweep tubes!! It can also run of of 120 or just run on 220 but most people dont have 220 volts in a spare bedroom so they run them on 110/120 but it will draw a lot of current! I used to run a KLV 1000P and i ran it on 120 with no problems.. |
Bullet
| | Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 11:42 pm: |
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2990
yes thats a great old amp isnt it!
you choise the relay circuit witch is a fine
way to go,i used the built in relay outlet and a foot pedel switch. ones just as good as the other as far as operation goes.
that klv1000p is ok but its built 20 years past its time when sweep tube amps were made because they were economical at 6-8 bucks a tube. if your going to pay over 20 bucks a tube i wouldnt waste my hard earned dough on a sweep tube but rather a transmitt tube. thiers no comparison between them for power or life span per dollar spent.
not to mention the quality differances of a nice brand name amplifier and a sweep tube amp. |
Pig040
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 11:58 am: |
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I run a Heathkit 220 also, never a problem, great power, and great audio from my Kenwood. I also have a Dentron, and that works well too.
Pig |
RCI 2990
| | Posted on Monday, August 18, 2003 - 1:37 pm: |
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I know a guy that can install a keying relay switch in the 220 so you dont need a petal. Yeah someday i might get a 220. I had that 1000P and it was OK but i dont like sweep tubes that well. Ive had lots of amps in my day and they were all sweep tubes amps and NONE of them impressed me at all and most of the time i sold them after about 6 months....
As a side what kind of power do you get out of the 220 on AM? Do you run yours off of 220 or 110/120? |
Bullet
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 3:04 am: |
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i run mine on 124 volts(what my volt meter reads the voltage at the outlet).
ya i could have went with the relay but chose to stay with a foot petal for my own reasons.
it depends on drive!
the condition of the amp and its caps,hv transformer,tubes ect.
regular z tube run a little lighter than the grafite tubes do.
i run mine rather mild compared to most fellas.
alot of guys run thiers to were they light up the first 2 to 3 rings of the tube.
i dont do this, i run mine nice and cool none of the rings ever light up even when i get windy on the mic.
it takes 2x the power to make a differance anyway so why abuse the equipment for another s unit. id rather put out a nice clean clear 1200-1400 pep bird watts and do so for twenty years on the same tubes.
ive watched the other guys slam out 2000+ watts and have thier amps repaired often and retubed often as well. i like to learn expensive mistakes from watching others make them.
besides if i need more rf power i can turn on the ugly home brew. but in all honesty if your not getting it done with 1200 you might as well wait for better conditions anyway. |
Pig040
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 10:57 am: |
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2990,
I run mine on 110 (no 220 in my radio room) I get 500 watts on am. I also use a foot pedal because I want the amp on, but dont necessarily want to use it for every key-up
Pig |
RCI 2990
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:22 am: |
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Bullett.. If you say your SB 220 is doing 12 to 1400 bird watts its definetly working! LOL. I figure if i can run my KLV 1000P i used to own running it off of 120 and get anywere from 1 K to 1400 and you are getting those readings on your 220 running it on 124 volts then im safe to use the 220 on the 120 volts....
L8trzzzz............ |
RCI 2990
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 2:23 am: |
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Bullett..
Curious as to what you use to drive that 220 with???? |
Bullet
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 1:38 am: |
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pig040,
say your getting 500 on AM.(cw or ssb position) is this just what you want it to do or is this all you can get out of her.(surely not)
im just currious about your drive level.
2990,
yea you should be fine, its only gona pull around 16-17 amps by its self on 120. and thats at its peak points.
i ran in and checked it over.
radio at about 1 watt dead key
amp at 12 watts dead key swinging 60 it does 200 dead key swings around 800 watts.(were i normally use it)
at 20 watts dead key swinging 95 on the driver it keys up 360 watts and swings 1400 this is in the cw position.
does abit better in the ssb position but im not worried about getting every last watt out of her just nice sound and long tube life.
if i use a 2990/turbo then its just the radio.
in any case i try to use only enuff to get me were i want to go. if i can do it on 2 watts i use 2 watts.
no body likes a fella that runs 1kw to talk across town. i know i dont! thier is a fella here that does this and its a pain in the but and i dont want to be thought of as being like him! |
RCI 2990
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 3:22 am: |
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Oh OK.. well bud, you answered all my questions on the 220.. Sounds like it would do everything that id want it to do. I myself cant see running the thing balls to the you-know-what but there are guys that do that. Now running that 220 is it like tuning up say a KLV 1000P tune to the max peaks? I normally run an amp(when i have one and right now i dont own one) with the 1 to 4 ratio in mind like for instance set the deadkey to 200 watts and swing it to 800 or so.
Another question is it a major job to install the footswitch keying relays in the amp? IMHO i like the idea of having relays built in the amp and have the radios deadkey engage the relays like in a regular CB grade amp but if thats not possible i can see using a footswitch. LOL A fella would just have to coordinate himself to key up the amp using his foot when he keys up the radio!!!! |
Pig040
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 11:31 am: |
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Bullet,
I am running the Heathkit 200, not a 220. I get 500 on the regular am channels, double that on sideband. I got a little more when I was hitting it with my Yaesu 101, but the recieve went dead on it, and now I am hitting it with my Kenwood, (850) doesnt put out quite as much power, or audio.
Pig |
Scrapiron63
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 3:52 pm: |
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I had a 101 heathkit radio and the heathkit 220 amp, used them for probably 10 years, just for SB, as the 101 radio didn't have AM. In tune position, the 101 radio would do about 140 watts, that would load the 220 to about 1400 watts, it talked around 700-1000 on sideband the way I set it. I believe the 220 was a 10 to 1 amp, multiplied by 10 the input. I never tried it on AM or on 120 volts, it was wired for 220 when I got it and when I sold it. The radio and amp was a nice looking setup, still have some pics of it somewhere. scrapiron |
RCI 2990
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 7:36 pm: |
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I had a FT 101 E once and loved it on AM and SSB. Had to let it set for an hour to warm up to use it on SSB or it drifted.. |
Bullet
| | Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 10:46 pm: |
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2990,
yea is close to 4:1 i didnt set out for this ratio but thats about what its doing if you look above at the deadkey and swing outputs.
footswitch,is super easy thats why so many use it and it gives you more freedom in operation than a built in relay does.
i dont use a foot switch but rather a momentary push switch on a 7ft cord with a regular rca jack on the other end and this simply plugs in the back on the amp were it says relay.(thats easy and cheap)
and i control the amp at the switch in the right hand all kicked back in my chair feet up! and if i want to say something to a local durring a dx shoot out i just dont key the main amp up as to not bother everyone with local traffic.
other wise id be having to work the amps on/off switch for this purpose if it had a keying relay built in it! and then youd want to add a stand by switch if you did this. this way its much cheaper and less parts to fail.
pig040,
in your aug 18th post you said heathkit 220. thats why i was wondering about your drive level i guess. from fellas i know with that amp thats about right on am 500-600.
scrapiron63,
mine came with a 220 plug on it and set up for 220 volts on the AE terminal block as well. its a very easy conversion to 120 volts, and a plug change.and your ready to go. i as well dont have 220 in the spare bed room/ radio room.
the xyl wants me to get a big shead and wire it up to put all my radio stuff in and at first i hated the idea but lately im warming up to that idea. |
jack reichard (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |
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DAN : i have a galaxy saturn turbo I run a drake L-4 HAS TWO 400z IT WILL DEAD KEY ABOUT 1000 watts and peak about OVER 1500 pep works well together , i only hit it with about a 1/4 watt dead key , don't go over 40 WATTS dead key or 100% mod works the best on the drake amps every body have a nice day ! (JACKINTHEBOX -ch 31 IND,
P.S IT MAKES A GOOD MATCH! COPPER SALES A NICE TVI FILTER LM-TVX2 |
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