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HYDRO
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 2:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

please wether you use an amp or not keep it CLEAN don't cut mod. limiter, don't make a "slider" out of your clarifier makes it impossible for everyone to get on freq. when you can't be. Throw the galaxies in the trash or change the TXCO out for something stable. And #1 filter, Filter,FILTER. If you don't understand this post you have no business having a radio.

P.S. LEGAL limit on 11 meter's in USA for EVERYONE is 4 watts AM & 12 watts SSB.
enough said, as a ham I spend much time on 11 meter's cause its fun, NOT so DAMN serious,
Joe
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Vernonott
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 7:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok guys , when you decide to throw the Galaxys in the trash ,send them to me C.O.D.
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Hamcber
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ummm... Hey there 'Hydro'.

It is true that 11 meters is "not so serious" as you put it, and that is why I enjoy it too. I was a little disturbed to see you (a fellow ham) jump on the forum here like a ton of bricks yelling (caps) about watts, filtering, and the icing on the cake, your diatribe about "If you don't understand this post you have no business having a radio"? Last time I looked at the FCC rules, any American citizen may own a CB radio regardless of technical education or qualifications.

I am a ham too. However, I do not believe that I am mightier than the 11 meter only guys and gals, nor do I jump on the forum preaching to them. Good engineering practices are not something that only hams have managed to learn. In fact, I have found more 'junk' at ham shacks than at 11 meter shacks.

Please be a little less "in your face" when dealing with the 11 meter crowd. Us hams are not 'better', than anyone else. We should be a guide and a source of reason and acceptance. Don't make us look bad.
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Hydro
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 6:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I probably did come off a little stiff (ok, a real stiff) been military for so long got use to pretty direct, Being a ham yourself you know what I mean about the seriuos part. I know there's plenty of good CB'ers out there I talk to a lot of them everyday and learn from them too. Just tired of the mega splatter from dirty radio's. I work on a lot of radio's for free just to help it stay clean out there but some of the mod's done in the hi-way shops are not fixible. I can go on and on but I'm sure you understand what I mean.
My spelling probably sucks but just got off a 14 hour shift.
Sorry if I did offend anyone, and when I have more time I'll get registerd on this site and help with tech. stuff as best I can.
Joe
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Bulldog
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 9:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just about very ham I know has at LEAST 100 watts on 11 meters, and they use it to! So maybe you should jump on a ham board and preach to them also. Being a ham also I use and like 11 meters alot! BECAUSE IT'S FUN!!! And whatever radios don't get sent to Vernonott please the rest to me.
Also please, please, please drink a little less coffee.
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Hamcber
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know what? YOU could be a bigger help than you know!! Doing free 'un-mods' is one of the nicest things I have ever heard a ham doing for the 11 meter crowd. Bravo!

Turn the page.

You are aware that you need to have a General ticket in order to do work on type accepted transceivers, right?
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Hydro
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 2:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a couple of other license's, I have both, The General & a comercial license.
I'm kinda glad I started this little post, gettin some good constructive criticism, I respect that, I enjoy humor too so don't hold back when I screw up.
I did want to clarify one thing, I stated the wattage thing cause I seen someone was confused about it in another post. Also I did'nt realize using caps would be taken as yelling, for me it's emphasis but not yelling, I'll attempt to remember that though.
One last thing I'll add is one of biggest parts of the hobby is designing antenna's, I enjoy the heck out of that, so any antenna questions please ask if I don't have the answer I'll go to my grave finding it, it's fun, not the grave part.
Joe
P.S. You should see my balcony, the wife say's she's gonna hang me off one those "damn tenna things"
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9 ball
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hydro:

I hope you don't expect anyone to take your post seriously. I have a galaxy 88.....you can't be dense enough to think I would not use it. If you don't like one, that's fine.

Oh and thanks for the info on 4 watts being legal....I am sure no one else knows that. Wow !!! We are so fortunate to have you around.

9 ball
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rightwing
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 7:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is one of those times where i`m gonna put my 2 cantes in.. if you are gonna run an amp ,at lease run it clean, no overdriving, leave mod limiters alone and you should be ok. i know several people who have radios modified up the kazoo but care little about sounding good modulation wise and overdriving the amps or radio. those are the problematic ones. in a nutshell ... run over 100 percent modulation or overdrive an amp, and not only will you sound like crap, but other operators won`t appreciate it either.
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MrRF
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI...Just to set the record straight:
1. Bulldog, I'm a ham and only have 4 watts from an unmodified type accepted CB in my shack. Guess I'm unique!
2. Hamcber, In 1984 the FCC deregulated the industry and removed the requirement to possess a General Class Radiotelephone License with exceptions: Broadcast transmitters greater than 10KW, directional AM broadcast stations, maritime mobile service, and certain radar services. Since 1984 the owner is responsible for the proper operation and performance of his or her CB, ham, or other transmitter not included above regardless of who services/maintains the device.
3. I do agree that the heavy duty amps on the CB band are a bit too much, but most hams I know run their stations full bore to talk across town too. Oh well, guess we're all guilty at something.
73's
MrRF
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mr rf is right so keep in mind only YOU will be held acountable for any illegual changes to your radio so all us tech who are making big bucks doing them are off the hook.
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MrRF
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, yea...one more thing, I talk on the CB and I'm an Extra Class Ham of 20 plus years. CB's have their place too.

73's all,

MrRF
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Hamcber
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. RF: Look at part 95 again.
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Hydro
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One quik one, if someone is removing a mod on a type accepted radio that would mean it was mod'd out of type acceptance and now it is being repaired.
Joe
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MrRF
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK Hamcber...I'll look at Part 95 for ya. Hmmm, Lets see:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47&PART=95&SECTION=424&YEAR=2000&TYPE=TEXT

From 47CFR95:2000 FCC Rules: Sec. 95.424
(CB Rule 24) How do I have my CB station transmitter serviced?

Quote: "(b) You are responsible for the proper operation of the station at all times and are expected to provide for observations, servicing and maintenance as often as may be necessary to ensure proper operation." Pretty clear...YOU, the owner are the responsible party!

Continuing: "You must have all internal repairs or internal adjustments to your CB transmitter made in accordance with the Technical Regulations (see subpart E). The internal repairs or internal adjustments should be performed by or under the immediate supervision and responsibility of a person certified as technically qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or committee representative of users in those services."
-End Quote-

The term above "responsible" refers to the service personnel and the way they repair the CB...they must use the same type of component(s) as the CB was type accepted with to repair the CB. Under no circumstances are the service personnel responsible for the CB's operation if proper parts are used to repair it, and NO modifications to the transmitter are made.

The term above "certified" is broad and does not limit service to General Radiotelephone Licensed personnel. Regardless, YOU (the radio owner) is responsible for your transmitter's proper operation! Now, You go read Part 95.

Hope this is helpful, I'm not trying to be mean, just make sure the rules are properly quoted to others on the forum. I deal with regulatory issues worldwide everyday...I eat and sleep the CFR's, CISPR's, RSS's, ANSI's of the world (those acronyms refer to the rules and test methodologies worldwide).

Oh yea, one more note... this is the RM (rulemaking) that changed the service world, including CB, for life. Go look up:

[48 FR 24894, June 3, 1983, as amended at 49 FR 20673, May 16, 1984]

73's
MrRF
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MrRF
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bruce,

How are things in Largo lately. work any 6 meters? I worked Quam this past weekend with 50 Watts on the U.S. call channel...whata pileup!

73's
MrRF
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Hamcber
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 1:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No disrespect, you need to look at the rest of the sentence you quoted: "The internal repairs or internal adjustments should be performed by or under the immediate supervision and responsibility of a person certified as technically qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or committee representative of users in those services."

O.K.: Look more precicely at this part of that sentence: "certified as technically qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or committee representative of users in those services."

An "organization or committee" in the "private land mobile services and fixed services" does not mean your buddies at the CB barn. You can read the rules any way you want, and get just about any meaning you want if you twist the words right. Unless you read them properly, you are fooling yourself.

I guess that's also why there are so many different religions who go 'strictly by the bible' too.

I hate getting into rules conversations because people here read whatever they want into them, as you are doing here. In the future, I will refrain from posting in these types of threads again, I don't have the patience. As a professional in the industry, I don't give it away for free either.
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Hydro
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 4:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Hamcber 100% on the rules part. As a professional in the industry I give free labor in my OFF time but NEVER in my on time and I do charge for parts (what I pay for them). My wife got me doing this after she listen'd to me piss and moan at all the dirty radio's splattering on everybody. Now I do take pleasure in helping the hobby.( no yelling here ).
Hamcber I'm personally gratefull that you did enter this thread so I will say THANKS. I mean no dis-respect in anything I say here so don't take any of it wrong. I work 1.8-2.4 GHZ all day long at work and know the feeling of not wanting to deal with anything else in my off time.
I am trying to get your beacon but living in a river valley is'nt helping, so me and my little one are gonna try next week on our hiking trip.
Joe
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Marconi
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 5:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hydro, I have a question for you about antennas in the antenna area.
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bruce
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 7:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mr RF still moving my station and missed out on the space dust this last week. when the dust clears from construction ill have a new shack ant and workshop so for now im stuck moble for now on 10, 6, 2 and 440. Guys Mr RF is right the fcc puts ALL the blame for illegual anything involving your radio on YOU. YOU have no out YOU cannot say " tech bruce added the frequencys" sorry its your radio and your fine. Dont be fooled read the 1984 releses that removed the general radio telephone requirement. I have that license because in my organization we do radars as well as all other radio products used by my office but the fcc is clear no license in needed to work on a cb radio and the rules are clear only YOU are lible for any radio you are useing so when you get the mods made remember that.
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9 ball
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2001 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with not cutting any mod limiters. What you actually do is give control to the operator of the radio through the use of the mic gain which they turn tooooooo high. A good clean ab-1 regulated amp also is good since it keeps the signal "in the band" and doesn't bleed seven channels up and down.

But reality world says that there are more modified and export radios with linears leaving Los Angeles every day than not in those Big Semi's that are on the road.

I like the nice clean signals and I use a Magnum 257 radio and the best compliments I recieve are "and it sounds good too". But I happen to have a little amp that gives me DA POWAAAAAAA.

Not everyone follows each and every law all the time......sometimes we fudge just a little.

I respect all your opinions and we all know you are right. THE LIMIT IS 4 WATTS !!! There is no way around that. Also there are lots of place that are selling these illegal radios and amps and no one does anything about it.

Life goes on

cya
9 ball
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ironmask
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gentlemen,

I have been active in this Ham field with multiple tickets.
I wish to tell a short story that supports the gist of this conversation.
My wife and I were walking on the beach one evening when this very loud strange noise really shook me. She thought I was fooling so I had her put her ear next to mine so she could hear it also.
Let me explain. I am seriously hearing impaired and wear dual aids. The noise was coming from the car parked down the beach with it's ground wire in the ocean and it's trunk full of batteries. He was talking to his home country.
Yes, I became very angry and the wife had to keep me from losing it.
Just explaining that splatter affects many areas. Thanks for listening.
P.S. Aids no longer work. Iron Mask
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Dan
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see this is a little older post, but here is my $1.00 with $.98 change.....

First off, let me say that I am (pleasantly) supprised to see so many ham operators here. Most of the people that I encounter in ham radio are uptight stiffs about 11 meters....but I'm sure at least 90% of them started on CB and probably still have one or two in their shack. As far as the illegal power issue goes, I'm a ham operator (obviously), possess a commercial broadcasters license, and use CB. I think the 4 Watt rule is B.S. With new technology, filters, and digitally controlled transceivers providing clean signals, I don't see why the power limit shouldn't be bumped to like the 15-20 watts AM and while we are rewriting the book, we really should have 11 meter FM too (legally).
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409
Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 4:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree.....the very low power levels really encourage amp usage.
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Junior
Posted on Thursday, August 08, 2002 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dan,
you expressed my sentiments exactly
i wish the fcc would pull the wedgie out
and rethink the whole program...
we can dream can't we??
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bruce
Posted on Friday, August 09, 2002 - 5:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Junior Why would the FCC even think of "granting" new privliges on CB when they have made the HAM license so easy to get. In short CB never was INTENDED to be used as a form of HAM radio there just isnt enough room to do that and how would you set the standards / testing and how would you get anyone to comply? One thing that i have alway felt was a mistake on CB ( MY OPINION ) was for the FCC not to have switch over to NBFM back when they went from 23-40 channles and rased the power to the standard 25 watts. There are several errors made at that time but with millions of export radios out there it would take forever to make any changes now.
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Big_Mike
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On the other side of the spectrum, When propogation on the 11-meter band opens up, even the 12-Watts SSB limit will allow communications of several hundred to over one thousand miles. When I started out with my General ticket, I made world-wide contacts on 10-meters with 10-watts or less (CW, AM & SSB). That being the case, plus the fact that 11-meters is very similar in propogation, focus on the weakest link on any radio setup - the antenna. You can run 1000 watts into a junk antenna and talk around the world OR you can run 10 watts into an efficient antenna with a proper ground and talk around the world. Some people must like equipment that hums when you turn it on - and knocking out tv's and cordless phones in the process
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Czar
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey HYDRO,go back to QRZ,we don't need your info on power,freq,etc.Hams are about the most abusive when it comes to power,just listen to the CA. "BIG GUNS" !!!!! YOU KNOW,the HAMS running henry 8k ultras,henry 4k ultras,gates modified 5kw amps,and on and on and on.We cb'ers{actually I have a general ticket too}do the EXACT same thing as hams do .. .... no more, no less!!The only differance is cb'ers sometimes brag about how much power they run,hams do it but "pretend" they don't !!!!
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bruce
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Czar

Their is truth to what you say but i think you'll find that the people who run high power and abuse rules and others is more limited on the ham bands. Also I have defended the no-codes since there is no real numbers to support the fact that they account for a disproporiant number of fines based on their numbers...... in short a code test does little to weed out bad operators. Dirty amps .... not high power are not as common on ham radio since a OO will contact you and failure to corect the problem probley will get you in trouble alot faster than on CB. I dont see either group as having a lock on stupid or bad people but i have and use all bands from 80 and up and lissen to them on a regular bases there are pockets of LIDS on 75, 40 and 20 who are quick to point out how bad 11 meters is it is not as bad on 17 or 15 but again their out there. I have but never use a 800 watt amp in the box one day i might pull it out and set it up but right now my 100 watts at the house and 300 in the car is more than enough..... and a heck of alot less of TVI!
Bruce
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Czar
Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Bruce I don't know,About 5 years ago there was an article in qst{I think},they were saying that they estimated{and I don't know how}that nearly 35% of hams at that time were running power over the legal limit.I would bet that with the lax in FCC enforcement{k6nut repeater,tampa jammers,etc.}that that number is closer to 40-50% now,I may be wrong,but whyen I am on 20 {for the BIG DX'ers},and 40 and 75 meters there are ALWAYS stations openly bragging about running 2500 watts and up!!!Most could care less about the ARRL OO{they REALY are a joke anymore},and they sure don't worry about the FCC doing anything.Hydro was talking about "splatter",YEAH I am tired about all the splatter on 20 and 40 meters when I am trying to work some rare DX,but it sure isn't from any cb'ers ,its all from the HAMS that are on the same band as I am.Some splatter 50kc either side !!!!The bottom line is at this time in history,the hams are no better than ANY cb'er,and I am a ham too,just tired of 11 meter operators criticized for running too much power by HAM operators when hams do the EXACT same thing,only they lie about it!!!!
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bruce
Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 4:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Czar

Like i said what you are saying is TRUE there are thoes on the ham bands who are worse than the people on CB that they are so quick to complan about but as a hole even on 80 and 40 it's not as bad. Here in this county ( pinellas county grid EL-87 ) maby its ONLY here but the OO's are there and are still efective even if the FCC is not. Splatter is a problem even o 6 which i've been on for many years you sometimes get someone who sounds like c**p but they are few i used to run a KW on 6 but it was clean SQUKEY clean. I dont use 80 40 or 20 unless i have too because EVERYONE seems to think they NEED a KW to work 20 miles but even on thoes bands there are clean signals some broadcast quailty. Hey guess what there are clean CB ones too gosh would that blow some of their minds! I'ts the same old stuff back 30 years ago at the ham club i belonged to all the time i would hear YOUR A TECH CLASS? HE HE HE Yep i'd tell them ... with a first class radiotelephone and i do this for a living! Most of them could not change a tube or wire a mike and were quick to let you know were the tech class seating was .... o even better i was just 40 when i walked into a QCWA meeting and asked to join .... neet looks on some faces ..... i was in my mid teens when i got the tech ticket. Well stupid people are stupid people.
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Crafter
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 1:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know a few years ago I supported my family on 15.00 tune-ups and selling those little 100 watt amps. Its been awhile since I have done any till last month I had to go back to my old books just to unlock a clarifier on a 148 cobra and yes HYDRO pulled the amc limiter right out. Made another 20 bucks what a deal. I really dont agree with the cutting the diodes but there the customer. Plus I got terrific I.F. filtering. Its a hobby to make friends and learn from thats why I do it today. Hope everyone has a good NEW YEAR!
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bruce
Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 6:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crafter you did WHAT? HE HE HE as for filtering back to back channelguards at 10.7 and replacing the 455 khz one with a channelguard i put ALL of them in a radio to see what would happen -100 easy at 1 ch away the 455 khz filter realy cleans up most radios but there 30 bucks each
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Crafter
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 2:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got plenty of junk radio's with them in them need any? Just a thought for the new operators wanting to learn, which is what its all about! I lived in a CB H**L before I was a ham had 5 base stations runing at least 1kw in less than a city block. Man it was fun used 2000w to talk next door no joke guess thats why I got my letter from the Honarable Don Nickles via FCC. But you know that whole good is ham now. As far as I know run alot cleaner now too! We all learn somewhere I guess. Oh almost forgot Bruce watch the news were famous guess they caught they guy who murdered his family in western oregon here in Baker where I live More tv and radio antennas setting up its a circus. Be careful stay safe. John
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bruce
Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 9:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crafter

Here my department was helping St pete chase a car thef the guy ran over one of our sheriffs he was knocked OVER the fleeing felons car and only slightly hurt the crook is realy lucky since that was the 2nd cop in the chase he tried to run over the first was a st. Pete cop and the st. Pete cop was the SAME cop who shot and KILLED the last guy who tried to run him over look for this one on POLICE CHASES.
Bruce
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If my mobile wasn't super loud and didn't bleed all over the place then I probably would get rid of it. Leave the Mod limiter in the radio???? Are you kidding? Signal strength gives you presence and audio gets you noticed. Every 8719 PLL radio I own has had TR24 removed on Day 1.
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country boy
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 3:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are more CBers out there that run linears and limiterless radios than those that run stock only.. Its been an ongoing thing since like about the 1960s.. "If you dont run with the big dogs you might as well stay on the porch!"
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bruce
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Country boy lissen sometime on 29.6 fm MOST are running 100 watts but there are many running about the same power as most cb radios when the band is open it dosnt matter from the car i worked germany running 4 watts and had a S9 report if CB had 160 channles and was blocked off for am / SSB /FM ill bet things would run MUCH smoother.... the problems on cb have 3 parts

1) A Stupid band to put personal radio service on

2) Stupid people tring to enforct it

3) And many smart people who know the first 2 things
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Sparkomatic
Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 3:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only thing I will respond to is the part where the CBers are not supposed to remove the modulation limiters from their radios??? What planet are you from??
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Orion
Posted on Sunday, April 27, 2003 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its all in the presentaion and the situation.. I understand Hydro perfectly but no one likes a lecturing tone. I'm not a ham but if I were and was getting splashed by some hee-haw on the 11-meters constantly it would •••• me off. Thats for sure. "Throw your Galaxy radios in the trash". Hmm, now I've heard they are LOUD radios and that was one of the best plugs I've ever seen them get. Another poster was right in saying the FCC should dump the 4 watt rule as it certainly does encourage amp usage.
"Gee, 4 watts isn't getting me across town the way I'd like. 20 watts would be better so I need a linear. Well, now that I'm in the market for a linear, why not get this 500 watter....". Its jsut like being under age and unable to get beer. If you find a guy willing to get it for you, you'll get a case, not a six-pack. IF you break the rules you break'm big and its only your own funds that dictate how far you'll go.
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bruce
Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orion

The problem is this ....

1) There is only so much room on the radio dial.
2) Someone has to devide it up
3) The 4 watt limit was set because CB is not a hobby band it was and is a personal comunications band so you dont need to be talking over long distances.
4) Look at all other non hobby/busines radio and you will find the power limit is under 25 watts for the most part again the reason is to limit range and interferance.
5) current ITU rules stated for a goverment to issue a hobby license below 30 mhz a code test must be given ...... this could change this summer.
6) galaxy radios are not very good ive owned several and found them to be a cheep ranger.

CB unless someone is willing to go do the fight will never be any diffrent if you want expanded rights go fight for them show the FCC they are needed and can be justified or be willing as you said to pay the price
Bruce

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