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Nomeancity
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 3:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ive owned nothing but 2950's 4 about 12 years Im just tired of the bar s meter. Love the radio though . Have 2950DX 4 a base at the present. Just need advice on which sideband radio to go with in the home.Or are there any radios as good as the 2950's under $450-$500. Would like opinions on connex 4800,- Lincoln,-6900FHP-ect.But dont want to buy a radio that your stuck listening to yourself on with talkback that cant be turned off. Or at lest turned all the way down.Recently bought a superstar 3900 4 the car,not the best radio for sideband seeing it drifts when cold,but ok once warmed up. I tried it in the house & its a pretty descent radio ,AM & sideband both long as it stays warm. Good reports on all modes
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Diggerodell
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 9:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lincoln!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Peddler
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never owned a 6900 but I have a Lincoln and a HR2600. Both very Stable. I also have a 4800DXL that drifts until warm (about 20 mins). The Connex is a better AM radio and the Presidents are excellent SSB radios.

Later
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Buck
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I have a Lincoln and love it but if you dont like the bar meters you better stay away from it. Thats the only thing wrong with the Lincoln....The S-meter isnt very appealing. I can live with it though.....When a radio performs like my lincoln I think I can live without a good S-meter
Buck
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Barefoot
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 3:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might like a Delta Force
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although the Lincoln has a bar s meter ,I'll probably go with it,At least it will be different.Ive allways been hard to satisfy when it comes 2 ssb & the lincoln is supposed 2 be as good as the HR2510.My biggest problem is there are only 2 or 3 other sidebanders round here & I seem 2 be the only one 2 buy new equipment periodicly ,but like I said its always been RCI's.
As far as gettin an honest report on sideband locally,I have 2 get some knotrhead off AM 2 go 2 lsb, they all have galxys & connexs ,RCI's good SSB rigs, but there lost when I ask them 4 a audio report.Most will ask,(where is them sideband channels ? )& they go on 2 say - (I've tried them sideband frequecies,but I cant tune nobody in on em.)So thats why Im here 4 advice.,thanks Diggerodell-Peddler-Buck & Barefoot
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Buck
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well if you are after a SSB rig, and can live with the meter, go with the Lincoln.....Its by far the best radio I have ever owned. It really rocks on sideband
Buck
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Barefoot
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 6:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buck is right! If you are a sidebander.Lincoln is the way to go. I've owned several Lincolns and found nothing wrong with the meter.
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

barefoot-,what about that 6900FHP,Is it worth A try,Sure like the way it looks,But cant see why the price is so much higher than Lincoln or 2950DX.
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Barefoot
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 4:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

6900FHP is not in same league as Lincoln or 2950DX
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Dx431
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Lincoln also, and love it. Wouldn't use anything else on ssb. Many times I have been asked what I was talking on. Everyone thought it was a Kenwood. Now, if it had the S meter of a Kenwood, I would be one happy camper! :-)
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello barefoot,-Not in same league as you mean,better or worse radio than 2950DX & Lincoln ?
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Barefoot
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 4:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lincoln and 2950DX are better.
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Pointman
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another vote to consider a Delta Force.
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Twa77
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 4:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

barefoot,

correction. 2950dx or not, 6900, NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS A 2510 OR LINCOLN. another to consider would be the emperor 5010. the recievers on these leave the rcis in the dust. and like dx431 said if they are setup right they sound almost as good as a hf rig. I have had a Lincoln(which i still have) and a Rci 2950 which i got rid of so
I have a pretty good idea. and am mot going by word of mouth.. These are my thoughts

tony
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 7:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks fellows,I know 2 leave the 6900 alone,Appreciate the input ,all of you.
By the way, does copper sell the Emperor 5010?
Havent seen one in a while.
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Barefoot
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 7:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

twa77 .I have owned about 10 each Lincolns, HR2510's and 2950DX's..right now I'm running a Magnum 257!!! They all have their +'s and -'s
by the way a Lincoln is not in the same league as a HR2510
just my 2 cents.
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Jon666
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Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no i dont belive they make them anymore
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 7:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may think im nuts Barefoot, but I ordered the 2970dx. Maybe they'll quit makin em & that will break me. Now the Lincoln looks even better,Gonna change my name 2 STUCK STUPID.
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Barefoot
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nomeancity.....you will love the 2970DX!

I've had excellent luck with my 2950DX
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Twa77
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 7:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

barefoot

the 2510 and the lincoln are basicly the same radio. only difference is the lincoln has variable rf power and the 2510 has variable rf gain. they are very much in the same league.
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Tech808
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had my 2970DX over 4 years now and LOVE IT when I need the Power it is there.

My 2907DX has may be 300.000 plus mile's on it being bounced & jarred everywhere in the US / Canada and Mexico in our Kenworth we had.

And PROBLEM FREE!

I will also will be ordering one for Corncob CEF #166 in the Morning from Copper, as he just left after looking and hearing and useing mine.

Lon
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ye Tech808,AT first I just wanted something diff than these bar meters, But have only seen these 2950's with the kit 2 give it 100W. But I heard & saw a new 2970 the other day,cant go wrong .I'll put it in the van, & switch back & forth with my 2950dx 4 a base.The thing I like the most about a running a ranger is every one knows your satisfied.
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 3:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure wish the 2970DX I tried was as good a radio as the 2950DX. I liked the power on AM & SSB, But it seemed to have to many bad reports on sideband as far as being on freuqency.Everyone said I was too high on freq.,That stands to reason though as I had to clarify everyone about 2 O'clock on LSB.
With this problem & FM not working on the new DX's , guess I'll go with a lincoln now. Not really coppers fault though ,as ranger just seems to be over the hump on profits on these models. I see in the near future ranger discontinuing 2950dx & 2970dx.,As Im sure sales are going to go down with FM & SSB problems that cant be corrected.My 2950DX model didnt work on FM either out of the box about 2 years ago. And dont expept any improvements from ranger, ( just a / RANGER HAS DISCONTINUED THIS ITEM/ ) Gotta hand it to copper though Ive always been sastisfied with their service.
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Barefoot
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 8:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nomeancity

you can just use the shift to get the RCI on freq. try 27.3852
Even the Lincoln I'm using now is at 27.3852
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Nomeancity
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 3:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I cant see puttin that much in a radio & wondering if your on freq., Especially when it has a freq. counter right on the front & you know it is not gonna work on FM either. How much cheaper can a SSB radio be built. Used to like these rangers, not any more. I've done a lot of sidebanding,& to tell you the truth, I'd rather use my superstar 3900 & my amp than a new 2950dx or 2970dx with or without an amp. I know superstar 3900's drift like crazy when it's cold , but in the house they are a better rig than any new rci 2950 or 2970, Little short on power, but fm works & you know your on freq. with the person your talking to when you turn the clarifier & tune em in. You have no choice but to be on em with your course clarifier on em. Rangers have lost it ,im sad to say.
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Twa77
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i see no point in spending that much on a 2970 especially if you are going to be on ssb alot. you would be better off getting a high quality hf rig such as a kenwood or yaesu. they can be had for 400 to 500 dollars in good condition if you look around. they should be right on freq if they arent i would start to question WHO is off frquency. just a thought

tony
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Pointman
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Delta Force is a great radio, AM, SSB, etc, add to that all it's other features. I am now saving for the Omega but only because I want the top gun board.
Worth a look.
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I have a new RCI 2970 DX and I've had audio reports saying that it was near stereo quality on SSB. People have asked if I was on an Icom or Kenwood while on the 2970 DX with my Turner SSK. The stock microphone sounds shallow, but what do you expect.

I've never had a problem being on Frequency, even cold I haven't has significant drifting. If I can hear someone I can talk to them and like Tech808 said when you need it the power is there.

As far as buying an HF rig, well sounds good until you start adding it up. You can buy a new Icom 706 for around $600.00 probably a little more. Then if you want 11 meters you have to add it that’s a few bucks, and then add the cost of an antenna tuner and antenna's to cover the freq. range of the radio if you can even use those frequencies. I can't see that you save money buying an HF rig to talk on 11 meters. Unless you have a General or higher ticket the RCI 2900’s are a good radio for 11 meters or a Tech with code a Tech plus or a Novice what ever currently gets you ten meters.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what you're looking for in hf rigs is superb receive- triple conversion & whatever new signal processing enhancements they have, which just blow away galaxy even cobra/uniden dual conversion. there is no 'white' noise, rcvr is QUIET, and w/ a decent antenna you will hear like never before. as for transmit, same thing, processors, compressors and all sorts of other goodies. usually, however, these radios are meant for ssb, not am, therefore am may sound puchless though amazingly clear. of course, w/ magnums new transmit sections and receiver developments, you're awfully close to that hf performance.just don't see it w/rci's. 6900, 4800dxl, 148fgtldx i believe are all the same, w/dual conv. rcvr, but they've got that punchless audio that needs work to get punch w/out clipped limiter audio. but like everything else, what's good for you may not be for the next. try it, sell it, try something else
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Bruce
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Patzerozero

Im with you on this the the MAGNUMS are a FINE radio. It's like most other things you get what you pay for. On 10 meters i run mobile using a HTX-10 and it does all you could ask of a radio and does it VERY WELL Most sets today are made for SSB AM is a DEAD MODE .... being only used on CB and aircraft right now .... nothing wrong with it just ask the guys on 29.0-29.1 mhz. My HTX-10 is a MAG-257 that cannot be expanded this fine with me since i use a REAL CB radio on CB and the HTX-10 right out of the box is a 10 ! Ive got 3 of them and they should last me for a long time .....TOO BAD IT'S NOT MADE ANY MORE....... the mag-257 IS.
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Patzerozero
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you were starting to give me an inferiority complex-thanks bruce!
pat
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Bruce
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pat your RIGHT on this one LOL

O a chipswitch Lincoln is a fine radio too

Bruce
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Horsefly
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Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have both the HR2510 and Lincoln
I modified the swr cal to var power on the 2510, works perfect..did a few small turn ups and it is great on am (I got it set at 2w- swings 23 ) and ssb, the Lincoln is not a "big" radio on AM, but it is still a good radio, it'll do around 18 watts on modulation. I use an Echo Master plus desk mic on them. Have a MRF_497 as a replacement final if either of them goes...but I doubt it, as both are very stable on the heat..Huge advantage on these rigs is the reception...great...and the tuning is much far superior than them Galaxy's and Connex's...I will not buy another Galaxy for personal use other to turn it over for $$$...For my mobile I run a Magnum S3...enuff said

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