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Crackerjack
Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 95 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 9:51 am: |
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What are your thoughts on Cobra Power Base Mics? Anybod ever use one? |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 30 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 11:40 am: |
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I had one that was alot like a Turner, and really liked it. I was told it was loud and clear, and I really like the push to talk bar it had. It's probably not as crystal clear as a D-104, and as mellow sounding as a Turner, but I did get flowers using it on my Cobra 148 base setup. Hope this helps Bob |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 101 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:17 pm: |
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Bob: Thanks. I have an opportunity to get one used. |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 165 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 11:17 pm: |
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I've never used or heard a Cobra power mic to my knowledge. I understand the CA-72 has some compression, which is a good thing. But so does the Turner +3 - my weapon of choice for a radio without a speech processor. |
Highlander
Advanced Member Username: Highlander
Post Number: 561 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 7:14 am: |
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I have a CA-72 and love it. It does sound quite a bit like a Turner. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 109 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:10 am: |
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I lost my chance to buy it, so I am still looking. |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 33 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 12:52 pm: |
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Thats really too bad . THe one I had had a push to talk bar on the front that locked down and a volume knob on the top back. Like I said it was alot like a Turner, and always had good radio checks with it. I have a couple hand mic's that do ok too. But the Astatic 576 does better than they do. Anyway good luck and hope you find what your looking for Bob |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 116 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 2:33 pm: |
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Bob: Yes, I am still looking for the "perfect" microphone. LOL... Astatic 104-D until I do. |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 37 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 4:11 pm: |
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I use a D-104 and an Astatic 1104c and Turner SSK and only wish I could find a 10 DA head for the Silver Eagle. I've heard great things about that head, but they ussually sell for more than I can afford when I do find one. People have said the SSK sounds pretty close to a D-104 with a 10 DA head, but I really don't know. All I can say is a buddy of mine uses the Turner SSK and a Silver Eagle with a standard head and the Turner has a more natural sound to it. The Cobra Desk Mic's always received good audio reports, but I only had one for a few months before trading it for something else. Anyway good luck, and when you find the perfect Mic. I just hope it's affordable because I want one too. |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 4:53 pm: |
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Well it's the most popular mic. of all time. I really like my Silver Eagle and D-104 Special. I think every station should have at least one, and now with them no longer being made.... Anyway I would just like to find the perfect SSB mic. I read what Tech 808 said about the Super Star hand held mic. And I am curious, but the only on I've heard was on a Washington Base, and to be honest it didn't sound as good as my friends D-104 on his RCI 2950. I know they are completely different radios, but that’s the only one I've heard and I wasn't that impressed. But I'm sure on a different radio it would sound completely different. I was told my 1104 C sounded better but was not as loud as my D-104. I think the same thing about the Turner mic. It might have a better SSB tone, but isn’t as loud as the D-104. It’s a shame there are no really reasonably priced Base Station microphones out there other than the Silver Salute. You would think that with all the technology that’s available today someone could make a really kick but SSB Base Station microphone other than Studio Mic’s that cost an arm and a leg for the average hobbyist.
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Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 121 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 6:44 pm: |
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I was ho[ping that this Syncron MP 7000 would be a good choine since it has Echo and a VU meter. Anyone here use one? Here is a link http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodE01-00510+ |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 123 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 7:27 pm: |
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Bob: 10DA head? Does it "plug in", and what is the difference -why cost so much? |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 9:18 pm: |
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The 10 DA head was made for the D-104 for SSB use and are now very rare. Most people were happy with the standard D-104, but the 10DA head made the mic sound much more rich and full sounding on SSB. They used to be fairly expensive to begin with but now that the D-104 and the 10 DA head aren't made anymore they've gone through the roof. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 124 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 10:18 pm: |
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The heads are for sale for less than $60 still, at leaste according to advertizement. |
Pig040
Advanced Member Username: Pig040
Post Number: 517 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:10 am: |
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BoB, I used to have a Dahl head for my d 104, it was good for sideband, when I got my heil I sold it. The dahl head was one of those things that you could only use for sideband, way to flat sounding on am, so if you talked am, you had to switch. I liked the nice retro look. Rich |
Yankee
Intermediate Member Username: Yankee
Post Number: 155 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:52 am: |
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I don't do AM and haven't since around the late 70s, tired of all the foul laugage and fighting that takes place on AM. I have been the whole route with about every microphone and still the Silver Eagle with A 10DA head is and always was the weapon of choice on sideband. The 10DA head is as rare as they come and I've seen just the head priced close to $100.00 in about the same condition as mine, mine was born in 1978 and to this day looks like it just came out of the box. 73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 46 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 1:59 pm: |
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Rich I do go to FM once in awhile. But it's rare that I'm off of SSB. As Yankee said I'm pretty much done with AM for the same reasons. The problem is the $100.00 or so for the 10DA vs my Super Sidekick. I've had some pretty good reports from the SSK and as always like the push to talk bar and lock to talk. But I do have two D-104's a Silver Eagle and a D-104 Special one I would like to put a 10DA head on just to have a bit of history and for SSB. If only I could find a clean one for under $50. |
Bob_p
Junior Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 47 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:01 pm: |
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Oh and Crackerjack, yes they will plug right into a Eagle with no mods. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 130 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 3:33 pm: |
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Thanks to everyone. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member Username: Yankee
Post Number: 156 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 4:31 pm: |
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I'm guessing everyone has heard two sayings, Who fired that shot, and like the shot out of a cannon. well, that is the kind of audio an Astatic 10DA head and a Silver Eagle stand will produce on the better grade sideband radios. Bob P, I got lucky not long ago on E-Bay, my 10DA and a very nice TUG-8 stand were up for bids and I won them at $47.00 plus shipping, and as I said after cleaning it looks and works like new. Just keep your eyes open and know what you're looking for. 73, Carl CEF-357 |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 132 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 6:06 pm: |
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I have a Night Eagle D-104, and I am borrowing a Turner with Echo, and I am going to listen to the two from someone elses radio before I change. The only complaint I ever get is when I am talking too close to the mic.
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Bob_p
Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:14 pm: |
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Crackerjack just to let you know. Not all Turners were created equal ;) The +3 and the Super Sidekick have the best reputations. I really don't know about the Expander 500, but believe Turner was begining to fail when it came out. here's a cool link to the old turner mic's http://www.cbgazette.com/turner.html |
Bob_p
Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 51 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:22 pm: |
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Crackerjack Those Night Eagle's are Beautiful mic.s |
Bob_p
Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 52 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:25 pm: |
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Carl Thats great I will keep lookling but haven't seen one for awhile now. But in the past let a few slip by at great prices.... Oh well maybe there's still one out there for me. Congrat's and Thanks Bob |
Tech808
Moderator Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3112 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:29 pm: |
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Bob_p, COOL LINK ON THE TURNER MICROPHONES. Lon Tech808 |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 135 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 7:54 pm: |
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Bob: I got my Night Eagle for $50.00, New because it has a small ble,ish that was easily corrected with car polish. I like any D104 as long as it has the PTT on the base, it is otherwise not ergonomically designed. |
Yankee
Intermediate Member Username: Yankee
Post Number: 157 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 10:42 pm: |
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That's a first I never knew of a Turner with echo. As far as I knew Turner was out of business before echo mics. came out on the market. Crackerjack you need to have someone record your audio with you talking. That's the only way your going to know what you sound like on different microphones, you are wanting to know what your voice sounds like. Depending on what radio your on, D104s are most of the time high pitched and you can't have any background noise with a D104, like a TV in another room. A D104 will hear a door opening or closing at the other end of the house. 73, Carl CEF-357 |
Bob_p
Member Username: Bob_p
Post Number: 53 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 9:29 pm: |
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Glad you liked the link Lon here's the parent page that is more or less a museum of C.B. radio. It has allot of interesting info and pictures including the old Browning, Johnson and Lafayette radios. http://www.cbgazette.com/gaz2.html Have fun Bob |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 137 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:42 pm: |
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Yankee: Oops, I eant Super Star http://www.copperelectronics.com/cgi-bin/checkitout/checkitout.cgi?catalogSTORE:CKIE:prodE01-06012+ On the D-104, my radio is in a room with no distractions or noise, so it has always met my needs. Lon tells me that his echo, with minimal echo really makes a differecne and I plan to see whay I think about it. Otherwise I have found a source of D=10 heads amd I think I may acquire one. I use a handhels D-104 in the Jeep, and I have asked about background noise and no one seems to hear it. I don't know why. |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 173 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:52 am: |
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Backround noise is only an issue if you don't close talk the microphone or really crank up the gain on the mic. Most people naturally close talk handheld microphones, but fail to keep the desk mic within 2" of their mouths. I have D104's and don't use them because I don't care for the tone, but folks tell me they sound pretty good. Often people will crank up the gain and talk into the D104 at arm's length and it sounds horrible. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 138 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 2:30 am: |
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What I like about the 104, is that you don't have to yell or have your face directly in it. |
Hollowpoint445
Intermediate Member Username: Hollowpoint445
Post Number: 177 Registered: 6-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 11:15 pm: |
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You don't have to yell with most microphones if you use them correctly. Talk softly about 2" away and you'll sound great with almost any microphone. What I don't like about D104's is that people crank up the amplification and talk at arm's length. You hear the TV, kids, dogs, radios, wife, fans, and whatever else is making noise. Everything except the person who's talking. Then they use it on a radio that's got the AMC and ALC deactivated - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3.... Okay, well you get the idea. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 149 Registered: 7-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 1:27 am: |
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Yea, I wouldn't use a D-104 in a room with noise. I am fortunate -in that I have a "Radio Shack" and it is queit. I have no idea what my Eagle sound's likem I only know that it makes contact when other mics won't. |