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Crackerjack
Intermediate Member
Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 165
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | 
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Lon:
I got my DM-452 mic last night. Not bad for the price.
What I didn't get were instructions on the internal adjustments, which (left-right) potentiometer controls power and which is tone? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3140
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 12:51 pm: |
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Crackerjack,
Glad to hear it.
On ours and the other CEF Members who have them, we have Never had to use any of the internal adjustments.
They have been Great right out of the pack.
We all run them on AM & SSB With the Echo Level Just BARELY OPEN to the MIN. (dot) and no further and have had great Results and Reports on the Good Clear & Loud Audio that this mic has on AM and SSB.
People can not believe that we are using a Low/Reasonable Priced Echo Hand Mic.
The Internal adjustments are:
With the top back side facing you and cord down:
VR-1 is on the LEFT = Variable Echo Time Control.
VR-2 is on the RIGHT = Variable Power Control
Hope this helps and let me know the reports you get when using it.
We have found that the SUPERSTAR DM-452 has a Very Reasonable Price and is Excellent on AM as well as SSB. 
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN 
Shirley
1st Sargant
CEF164
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OL' 262 Bottomside NY (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 2:18 pm: |
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I bought 3 of these mics from a CB vendor at a recent hamfest for $20 each.I use one on the base and one in the car and gave the other to a friend.These are a GREAT mic for the price. |
Crackerjack
Intermediate Member
Username: Crackerjack
Post Number: 166
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 2:30 pm: |
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Lon:
Yes it does, I don't intend to mess with them but it is nice to know. They advertize an internal adjustment, it would make sence to tell you which is the power.
This mic is really well made, I will test it this week end and give you an opinion on the sound.
Amd thanks. |
Troublemaker
Junior Member
Username: Troublemaker
Post Number: 10
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 9:55 pm: |
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i use one on my Cobra 148 in my work van,I
think its a great mic! |
Viking
Intermediate Member
Username: Viking
Post Number: 154
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:11 am: |
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I've recently seen an "Aries DM-452" mic that looks just like the Superstar. Would this be the same mic with a different sticker on the front? |
Sanddiegoduner
Junior Member
Username: Sanddiegoduner
Post Number: 40
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 10:35 pm: |
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If it has the workman symbol on it I'm sure it's just like the superstar version. I ordered mine from Copper a couple weeks ago and being a guy that has never liked echo mics or voice changers mainly because they sound lousy. The DM-452 has very clear audio as long as you don't over do the echo. I asked a guy living the next town over what he thought of the audio quality compared to my 575-m6 and stock mic and he said sounds as loud as the 575 and as clean as the stock. When I buy some more radio gear I'll be adding another DM-452 to my stable. |
Viking
Intermediate Member
Username: Viking
Post Number: 156
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2004 - 10:23 am: |
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I received the Aries DM-452 yesterday and it's exactly like the Workman/Superstar mic. Haven't had much chance to talk with it yet, but I'm sure it will get a good burn-in time soon. |
Dwd
New member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |
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I just got my DM-452 today. Have not put it on yet. Will do that this evening. It does not have a good feel to the hand, but it seems to be made to hold up better for mic-chord abuse than most mics. Looking forward to using it. Will give a report after a few days trial.
DW |
Dwd
New member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 8
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 7:29 pm: |
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I guess there is some problem with the DM-452 I have. When Keyed up it makes a buzzing sound, shows no modulation at all. I am going to return it back to the local shop I got it from unless one of you guys knows what the problem is. Also the red light on the face of it is not lighting up. |
Poppathree
Junior Member
Username: Poppathree
Post Number: 12
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 5:33 am: |
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I have 2 DM-452's, on the base and my mobile. They are great and loud and clear. Dwd, just make sure the mic plug wiring is ok for your radio, it may not be correct.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3588
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 - 7:50 am: |
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Dwd,
Do you have the 4 Pin or 5 Pin DM-452 and What kind of Radio are you trying to use it on?
They are pre-wired for the 4 & 5 Pin Standard Cobra / Uniden Radio Wiring.
If the Red Light is not lighting then the Wiring for your radio is Wrong in the Mic.
It appears that you are shorting it out someway as the Red Light will even come ON when the Mic is NOT Hooked to any radio just by keying it with a battery in it.
Unplug the Mic from radio and make sure Battery is GOOD and key it, The Red Light should come on.
Hope this helps.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN
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Dwd
New member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:33 pm: |
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Lon, I got the mic keying up, now it is clear when it is below the first dot , when I raise the echo level up to the first dot or any higher, I am getting a squeel on the mic. This is with minimum power on the radio. I have checked all wiring and it seems to be fine. I am running a Galaxy 55V. When I put stock mic back on, it sounds great.
DW |
Sanddiegoduner
Junior Member
Username: Sanddiegoduner
Post Number: 44
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 1:33 am: |
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Dwd your over driving the mic. Turn the audio output down or reduce the mic gain. |
Dwd
Junior Member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 8:14 am: |
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Got it fixed guys, it was a shield wire that was loose, not making a good connection. Seems to be working fine now. Thanks for all the help.
DW |
Dwd
Junior Member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 11
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 9:10 pm: |
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It is a very rich sounding mic. I am running it on the first dot, Lon, just like you said , and getting very good reports. The only draw back I can see to the mic is the square feel in your hand. I like a teardrop feel. But with the sound and the price, I recommend this mic to anyone.
DW |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3637
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 12:06 am: |
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Dwd,
You will get used to the feel.
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN
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Moonshadow
Member
Username: Moonshadow
Post Number: 99
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 3:41 pm: |
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I got mine over the weekend in Bloomington, and I LOVE IT! After we got the mic gain all set, Eric and Lon said that it sounded great on my Cobra 148 gtl. Only thing, Eric thinks it might be driving the radio to hard. I told him that I am happy with it, in fact I don't even turn the echo on, I have the slide right where it began when I got it from Lon on Friday. Thanks Lon and Shirley for suggesting it, I really do like it!!
Kat |
Dodgeman
Member
Username: Dodgeman
Post Number: 92
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 5:56 pm: |
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I got one to + a set of mic adapters I put the mic on my Midland 13-879B an it makes this radio LOUD.Moonshadow try the echoon the first small dot thats were I run mine it makes my radio sound louder. cef178 |
Dwd
Junior Member
Username: Dwd
Post Number: 12
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 7:20 pm: |
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Dodgeman, that is where I am running mine-on the first dot. It sounds great there.
DW |
Dan Robinson (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 9:31 pm: |
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I have a Ranger 2970Dx and a SuperStar DM452 mic. Can someone tell me the wiring code for this setup. What color goes on what pin. |
Slugo4449
Junior Member
Username: Slugo4449
Post Number: 18
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:58 pm: |
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Model: 2970
Standard wiring:
1-Shield
2-Audio
3-Transmit
4-Receive
5-Channel Up
6-Channel Down
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Tecnicoloco
Junior Member
Username: Tecnicoloco
Post Number: 48
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 2:47 pm: |
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Hi:
As you guys,I am very impresed with the performance from this very afordable microphone.
I use it on a Mini Magnun 400 Ch. AM little radio and really help to improve the Modulation Quality.
Have fun.
Tecnicoloco |
Dan Robinson (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 9:30 pm: |
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I have a ranger 2970dx & a SuperStar 452 echoe mic. I know what the six pins are for on the radio as per the owners manual. What I need to know is what color wire from the mic goes to what pin number on the radio? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 3755
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 6:35 am: |
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Dan,
If it is the DM-452 4 PIN MIC,
BLACK = RECEIVE
RED = TRANSMIT
YELLOW = COMMON
WHITE = AUDIO OUTPUT
If it is the DM-452 5 PIN MIC,
RED = TRANSMIT
YELLOW = COMMON
WHITE = AUDIO
BLACK = RECIEVE
SHIELD
If it is the DM-452 5 PIN DIN MIC,
RED = TRANSMIT
BLACK = RECEIVE
WHITE = AUDIO OUPUT
YELLOW = SHIELD
Ever think about becoming a Registered Copper Forum Member and Joining the CEF Radio Club?
Lon
Tech808
CEF808
N9OSN
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Waverider
Junior Member
Username: Waverider
Post Number: 43
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:08 pm: |
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Lon, ordered and received two of the DM-452's. I put one in my wife's truck and one in mine. I am completely blown away by these mic's. In the last 30 years I have paided twice the price of what one of these gems cost and didn't get near the audio quality. I thought your review was too good to be true but the facts speak for them selves. Thank you Lon and thank you Coppers! |
Mikefromms
Intermediate Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 492
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 6:09 pm: |
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I have the Dm-452 on my Magnum 257 and I'm considered one of the big boys around here. Problem is I'm so loud they say there is very little difference in my audio with and without the amp on..??
mikefromms |
Viking
Intermediate Member
Username: Viking
Post Number: 188
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
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Doesn't sound like a problem, but a means of saving the pills in the amp.  |
Bluegrass
Intermediate Member
Username: Bluegrass
Post Number: 262
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 8:35 am: |
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A friend of mine just got one and i was suprised at how well it performs.It sounds just as good or better then the Astatic D104M6B he was using before. |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 148
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:17 pm: |
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can one get this dm-452 pre wired up for any type radio from copper ???CaptHook |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 5764
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:11 pm: |
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Capt_hook,
YES, When you call to place your Order ask for CUSTOMER SERVICE and be sure to tell them you need the MIC OPTION and need it RE-WIRED for the radio you want to use it on ie:2985DX.
Have Mic Wired/Please specify which radio in comments: add 10.00
They are pre-wired to fit the Cobra/Uniden 4 & 5 pin Mic Wiring pattern.
Hope this helps,
Lon
Tech808
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Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 149
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 5:32 am: |
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thank you sir it dose I heard this mic and it sounds very good . Capt Hook |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 123
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 8:24 pm: |
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Vanillagorilla sez... (about the DM-452)
Only complaint is the size/shape of the mic...kinda like talking into a tissue box
This is why I preset mine and installed the whole thing in another mic case.....
Just curious as to what kind of case that was used, if you don't mind sharing... |
Hotwire
Senior Member
Username: Hotwire
Post Number: 1317
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 1:02 pm: |
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Thats cool! Transplant surgery on a mic. Wonder if you can transplant radios? |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 881
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 5:19 pm: |
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This cheap priced mic will make a mobile radio sound like a base station. This is a really inexpensive way to make your radio sound louder and give it some bass.
Mikefromms |
Road_warrior
Senior Member
Username: Road_warrior
Post Number: 1407
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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Yes, they are nice mics! |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 885
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 8:14 pm: |
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My favorite mic for lack of background noise and good bassy modulation and the the mic is cheap. I highly recommend this mic to everyone who wants a pep in there talk and the flowers will keep coming. This mic has proven itself.
Mikefromms |
Vanillagorilla
Advanced Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 625
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 7:21 pm: |
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ALLEN! Sorry I've been a slouch over here! SO MANY different forums on this site you'd go crazy reading them all!
If you go to my PICs under the Members Pics forum you "may" see it there. I'll check myself.
The mic..the ONLY mic,(and I've tried PLENTY!)..that I could possibly fit it in was the one that came with my Superstar3900 Gold. Its model #SRA-188-4H. I think the SRA# tells me its a Ranger made mic?
If you'd like I FINALLY have a camera that works and wouldn't mind taking the mic apart for pics to show the butchery involved.
Warning: you'll have to use your imagination and willingness to scrounge for misc. parts!
That is...AFTER you find this mic case somewhere!
I've seen them before on internet auction sites labeled as noise cancelling. If possible you'll want the version that has the metal mesh screen over the plastic grill.
I'll try to post up some pics this weekend.
Hank CEF559 |
Allan
Intermediate Member
Username: Allan
Post Number: 176
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 12:29 am: |
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Sounds like a project right up my alley. Everything I own suffers from tinkeritus to some extent. |
Rf_burns
New member
Username: Rf_burns
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 7:36 am: |
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Hey Lon or Anybody else that's used a DM 452 for awhile. While keeping the Left wheels Dot on the 1 or less, Where do you guys like to keep the Wheel on the Right Set at, and with what radios?? - And your Right it's not just a Good Mic for the Buck - It's Just a Good Mic PERIOD. It just happens to be an affordable one. Just my opinion using it so far. Interested in your thoughts, opions and settings that you all run with it. 73's and Thanking You in Advance for All Your Replys - R.F. - |
Vanillagorilla
Advanced Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 740
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 8:36 am: |
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Mr RF Burns..(Jeeze I love that name!)
Wheels? The DM452 has only a slide adjustment across the front above the mic screen. Perhaps you have it confused with the RF limited mic? I think its called the Turbo somethingorother?
~OR~
you talking about the internal adjustments? I turn up the modulation as far as possible before overmod then just a pinch back to be on the safe side.
I like the echo tight...just cracked..then around the first dot on the front of the mic. Almost not noticable that you have echo BUT it adds some nice body to the modulation. Kind of like talking to someone in a gymnasium ya know?
Still have yet to take those pics I promised Allen! I'll make that a mission today!
Hank CEF559 |
Rf_burns
New member
Username: Rf_burns
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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Hey Hank,
Thanks for the reply,and your right.I ran out to the truck and took a look,and while I have a few different ones, the one I'm running presently on my 2950 in the mobile is Labeled as a Superstar DM 5000. I'm sure it's pretty much the same Mic as the others that pass on through Workman's hands, with the exception of the 5000 also having a Programable 20 sec. Sound Chip in it. Gotta say that more than once,I've paid a whole lot more and gotten a whole lot less for my money. I can't tell you how many times I've been asked if I was transmitting from a Base Station or if I Really Was A Mobile. I guess I'll have to throw a Talk Back in the old 2950 and tweek the knobs and see where they really want to Live At! Like you, I usually keep the Echo Volume adjusted just a tad past the "On" Detent, and I was really wondering where to set the echo delay control? It's presently set about halfway between the 1 & 2 mark on the Delay Wheel. The Case, VR positions, adjustments and access appear pretty much the same as the DM 452. Again, Thanks for the reply. Wishing 73's to you and yours, and we'll see just who else wants to jump in here and chime in on the topic. Be good and be careful because "R.F.Burns" isn't just a Forum Handle it's also a Trueism<g>.Just Don't find out the Hard Way.<g><g> 3's and We're Back off the key waiting for the next reply. |
Vanillagorilla
Advanced Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 745
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 8:48 am: |
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I got scars  ....Hey I see your in NY...whereabouts?
AS for the delay...yup...barely open. That what I meant by "tight". I've heard good things about the sound quality of those 5000's. Never had a need for the recorder feature so the extra money was never spend there.
Then I like to bring echo..whether it be a 452 or the radios factory echo..just out of the hole to "enhance" not really echo or slapback. You just can't talk with someone like that for too long ya know! I'd end up with an anxiety attack 
Hank CEF559 |
Kabar
New member
Username: Kabar
Post Number: 8
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 8:04 am: |
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Recently purchased a new Superstar DM-452 4pin.
Colors of mic wires seemed to have changed.
New colors seem to be:
BLUE-RECEIVE
RED- TRANSMIT
YELLOW-COMMON
WHITE-AUDIO OUTPUT
The black wire seems to have been replaced with a blue wire. |
Doublenickle
New member
Username: Doublenickle
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 12:00 pm: |
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Anyone know what can be done to slow the repeats down a little more. Just a "tad" too fast for my liking. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 12980
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 7:51 am: |
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Doublenickle,
Remove the back cover and right above the battery you will find 2 adjustable controls that control the amount of Microphone Amplification and Echo Repeat Speed.
Hope this help's,
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Doublenickle
New member
Username: Doublenickle
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:30 am: |
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I know they are there. I cheatd, and drilled 2 small holes in the cover to access them.But, I'd like to slow the repeats down even more. Something like you can do with RF Limited Echo. Can't you change out a resistor or somehing??
Thanks again !
Chuck S.
Double Nickle, (northern NY) |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 12989
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 8:29 am: |
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Doublenickle,
That I do not know about since I only use the echo control slide control on the outside of the mic set just barely open past the first dot off MIN and the internal adjustment also set to MIN and no one has ever mentioned it was too fast before or complained about it.
But then I also always unkey instantly as soon as I am done talking so maybe no one hears it. 
Maybe another Copper Forum Member will be able to jump in and offer some advice or help.
Lon ~ Tech808 ~ N9CEF
CEF#808 ~ CEF HAM#33 ~ CVC#002
10-10 #61493 ~ 10-10 VP#2688
Tech808@copperelectronics.com
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Vanillagorilla
Advanced Member
Username: Vanillagorilla
Post Number: 966
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 5:04 am: |
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Chuck..if it helps you any...
IF your listening to yourself through talkback or another radio next to you with earphones realize this, the echo is not nearly as audible to the guy on the RX end. I've found that by adjusting my '452 to where I think it's too much most people can't even hear it. You'd be better off "watergating" yourself in the base or mobile and listening for yourself. I think you'll be surprized at how minimal the echo really sounds. I'm guessing you'd like the echo to sound more like your in a big room rather than actual echo.
Thats the way I like it. It sort of gives your audio "body".
Good luck
Hank~CEF559
Long Island NY
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Wildrat
Senior Member
Username: Wildrat
Post Number: 1222
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:29 pm: |
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I am going to have to look at the wiring on mine. It works when connected directly to radio, but did not when connected to my ext. cord. It also did not to work correctly on the Cobra 150 in my Jeep. I think the mic plug may not be wired correctly. It's odd that it works directly but not when I use my ext.cord or on the 150. All my other mics work fine so I think it's just not wired right.
WILDRAT
MARK
27.285MHZ
CEF674
CVC029
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Onedroppr
New member
Username: Onedroppr
Post Number: 5
Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 8:47 pm: |
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Excellent mike. Loud and clean, variable echo. Adjustable gain for different radio mic sensitivities. For the cost is a really good deal.. |
Co1maine
New member
Username: Co1maine
Post Number: 4
Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 6:42 am: |
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Just got a DM-452 by Superstar, can barely turn this up at all due to feedback loop. Stock mike was far better sounding on the 2 different radios I tried it on. Might want to avoid this mike as it seems to be going down in quality. |
Turklefoot
New member
Username: Turklefoot
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 9:25 am: |
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My new DM-452 only has Shield, White, Yellow, Red & Blue. No black. I wanted to hook up one of my old 452's that had the black wire. I tried the above, substituting the blue for the black, but nothing. Does anyone have the 4 pin wiring for the new mic's? |
Press_man
Advanced Member
Username: Press_man
Post Number: 868
Registered: 5-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 05, 2015 - 4:59 pm: |
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http://www.okdxgroup.co.uk/mic.htm
Above is wiring.
Adjust VR 2 for more or less audio.
73 Pressman
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Ky_indian
New member
Username: Ky_indian
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 1:54 pm: |
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Can anyone tell me how to wire a Superstar DM- 452..To a Tiger 40A Radio |
Thespacemann
Junior Member
Username: Thespacemann
Post Number: 11
Registered: 6-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2019 - 12:27 am: |
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Anyone know if the DM-452 4 pin will work with a Midland 5001 without modifications? |
Centurion
Junior Member
Username: Centurion
Post Number: 20
Registered: 7-2020
| | Posted on Friday, June 25, 2021 - 1:16 pm: |
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Can parts be found for these or a schematic i have one that has a crunchy staticy key switch other than that it's fine it's not very old! |
