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Vtwinn
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Username: Vtwinn

Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2004


Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am going to be using my dx95t as a base and I was wondering what would be a good amp to run with this radio or what size of amp I can run, I have heard I can push some major wattage with this radio. thanks in advance
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 556
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you need a high drive amp, vtwinn. the klv1000p will handle the dead key of the 95t, you just have to back down the mic gain/swing til it's about 100 watts or so. as for a transistor amp, an 8 x 2sc 2879 will work too. you'll either need a BIG power supply or battery/charger combo, or find a custom AC model. tube amp will handle more dead key input then a transistor amp. an 8 pill custom will probably get you more output then the klv 1000, but setup will cost bigger dollars.
see what your radio will vary down to externally & you can probably use a smaller amp/less $$ if you choose to go that route.
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Tech808
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Post Number: 5191
Registered: 8-2002


Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vtwinn,

W90-00110 KLV-1000P Base *
$ 609.99

FEATURES:


Frequency: 26-30 MHz

Tubes: (4) EL 519

Input Power: 60-100 Watts

Output Power: 600/1200 Watts


This is DEAD KEY Watts not Swinging watts.

And at 60 to 75 watts you would not see the maximum power out and not be happy with the performance.

Your radio is too much for the Low Drive Amps and not enough for the High Drive Amps to achieve 100% maximum performance.

Lon
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 557
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

'an 8 pill custom will probably get you more output then the klv 1000, but setup will cost bigger dollars.' and 'the klv1000p will handle the dead key of the 95t' and 'And at 60 to 75 watts you would not see the maximum power out and not be happy with the performance' and last but not least:
'Your radio is too much for the Low Drive Amps and not enough for the High Drive Amps to achieve 100% maximum performance.'
correct-correct-correct-correct-
the transistor amp will get more output for the reason you specified, lon, and the dead key from the 95t, though not enough to fully push the klv is too much for the transistors. should've explained myself better. and your final comment is 100% TRUE & my complaint with ALL the newer, so-called high power radios. everbody wants to use 'em with the amps they have, or just get '500 watts', it's not easy with these new radios. they don't match up well with the amps out there, & the ones they do match up with are too big & require too much (read $$$) for the average person to setup properly. i have a hard time convincing some customers of that & send 'em on their way to blow it up with another's suggestions!
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Tech808
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Post Number: 5192
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Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patzerozero,

You are not only knowledgeable but also wise.

We have been in the radio business for well over 30+ years. You can always make a helpful suggestion as to how the equipment should be operated but you cannot take a sledgehammer and whack them in the head and make them listen.

But I always love it when they come back and say HEYYYYYYY it blew up guess I should have listened, can you fix it?


Thats when we would say, SEE YA!

Lon
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Hotwire
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 1-2005


Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 9:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patzero, When I was a kid I used a baterry&charger combo to run a Texas Star V Mod. An average 12 volt car battery with a 10 amp charger. It worked great. How much bigger of an amp would you say I could run with that same setup?
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Chad
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Username: Chad

Post Number: 199
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 2:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lon,

I don't say see-ya.

I say $67.50 an hour, first hour up front.......

Chad
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Vtwinn
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Username: Vtwinn

Post Number: 34
Registered: 8-2004


Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 5:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Pat and Lon that has been a big help, the 95T is going to be a base since I dont use SSB on the road that much so I was thinking of getting an Imax 2000 and finally getting to really use the radio, I am going to be trying the s-3 for the big truck , my buddies sounds really nice but not as loud as the 95 t, but the s-3 is a smaller radio and wont be blocking the windsheild as much,LOL
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Patzerozero
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Post Number: 561
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 9:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i used to do the same in my base to test BIG amps, hotwire. only in the winter though, would take batteries out of my boat & use BIG sears charger, with 4 batteries could get decent wattage & keydown time from dx350 driving dx1600. don't do that at the base much anymore, partly to not upset the neighbors & partly brother has yet to return charger!
as for your setup, it all depends on the sizes-of the charger& battery/batteries. hookup voltmeter to fully charged battery/trickle charger on, see what real voltage is, then key amp & see how long it takes for voltage to drop about 5%, if you get a good keydown time you'll be fine. the next step up from trickle will allow more keydown time & bigger amp, but you'll need to watch charger & batteries, as they'll really be taking a beating. optima deep cycles can take quite a bit of abuse, but 2 batteries x $200, plus the charger, you're better off just buying a base amp. batteries taking a lot of cycling like that also need ventilation, or they'll be picking you up off the floor. it's hard to dx when you're unconscious.

150 watts SSB with a base antenna talks an aweful lot of dx, vtwinn! good luck!

thankyou, lon. i'll bet that's the nicest thing you ever said about me!:-)
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Hotwire
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Post Number: 185
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Patzero, I hear ya about ventalation.
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Vtex1
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here' my queston. i have a presdent lincoln. and a gray 300 base amp. tha radio will dead key on am. 2 watts and swing to 10 with the rf on low ..now with therf haft way it will do a 15 dead and swing to 25.. RF all the way up just plane 30 watts. i dont know much about this kind of amp?. but it will do 275 to 300. from keeping it from blowing up should i run my RF loww with the 2 to 10 swing or should i try to turn it down?? i normely run my RCI 2990 but i got something wrong with it and its in the shop at this time..i also wired my silver eagel to the prez.. dont know much about eather the radio or this kind of amp .. any kind of help would be greate.. tks phil
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Vtex1
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here' my queston. i have a presdent lincoln. and a gray 300 base amp. tha radio will dead key on am. 2 watts and swing to 10 with the rf on low ..now with therf haft way it will do a 15 dead and swing to 25.. RF all the way up just plane 30 watts. i dont know much about this kind of amp?. but it will do 275 to 300. from keeping it from blowing up should i run my RF loww with the 2 to 10 swing or should i try to turn it down?? i normely run my RCI 2990 but i got something wrong with it and its in the shop at this time..i also wired my silver eagel to the prez.. dont know much about eather the radio or this kind of amp .. any kind of help would be greate.. tks phil

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