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Dan367
New member
Username: Dan367
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 6:53 pm: | 
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I am thinking of getting either the Delta or the Omega Force.
I am a little confused as to exactly what are the differences.
Does the Delta have the top gun modulator. What is a top gun modulator? I would really like to know the differences between these two radios.
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Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6214
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 7:11 pm: |
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Dan367,
WELCOME TO THE COPPER FORUM!
Click on the Link's below and you will be able to compare the differences.
Magnum OmegaForce S45 - 10 Meter Mobile
MAGNUM DELTA FORCE 10 METER MOBILE RADIO
Hope this help's,
Lon
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Dan367
New member
Username: Dan367
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 8:36 pm: |
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For example, what is used in the output statge of the omega. What is used for finals in the delta?
It claims to put out more power than the delta.
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Alsworld
Advanced Member
Username: Alsworld
Post Number: 935
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:01 pm: |
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The Omega Force was the next generation Delta Force. It has the Top Gun Modulator installed which allows a 1 watt to 40 watt swing, or a variable power setting. It retained most all of the Delta Force features including scan and memory channels.
I know the new Omega Forces have the blue LED lights, and I think dual microphone inputs (one on each side, the Magnum 6 pin on left, and the CB standard Uniden/Cobra wired 4 pin outlet on the right side). Many of the newer Magnum radios included the Top Gun modulator, but they left behind the scan and/or memory stations the Delta's and Omega's have.
Omega's are a nice radio. I enjoy my Delta Force tremendously but would consider an Omega as quite the nice replacement.
Alsworld
p.s. I think Coppers website may be outdated showing the blue lit Omega unless they still have some of the older style radios for sale. Still a good radio just minus the second mic input. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6215
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:23 pm: |
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Alan,
Yes, the Picture of the Magnum Omega Force S-45 on the web site is of the older model.
Below is a picture of the  Magnum Omega Force S-45
As soon as the Forummaster has time he will get it changed on the Web Site. 
Lon
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Dan367
New member
Username: Dan367
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 7:23 am: |
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It has been stated that the Omega uses a pair of 2sd1969 finals. Also that a 2 pill amp is NOT to be used with the omega.
What finals are in the Delta? Can a 2pill amp be used with a delta?
My problem is that I do not want to put a very high power amp in my vehicle. I am afraid of current draw and glitching the vehicles computer.
I wonder how much current a four pill amp would draw.
Thanks
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Patzerozero
Advanced Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 992
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 1:06 am: |
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as alsworld said, 'I enjoy my Delta Force tremendously but would consider an Omega as quite the nice replacement', & if cash flow ever allows, i'd like to sandwich an omega between my delta & S9,(& of course, ar3500!)
as for amplifiers, the delta will work with ANY of the so-called high-drive amps, & work well. just remeber to keep the (variable) dead key at or below where amp manufacturer states, for high drives, that's usually less then 10 watts AM, 25w on SSB. as with the S9, the omega is best (most easily) matched with a texas star dx500. that's not to say you can't make it work with anything else, you just need to use patience & have the resourses to try multiple amps til you get the right 1. a dx500 will draw anywhere between 40 & 60 amps, depending on input. i have found HIGH QUALITY COAXIAL CABLE to be the difference with rfi problems in moderately powered mobiles.
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Dan367
New member
Username: Dan367
Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 9:07 pm: |
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Thanks for the info and good advice... |
Pointman
Intermediate Member
Username: Pointman
Post Number: 135
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 8:31 pm: |
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Dan I have had both radios. The Omega has a much quieter receiver.
Both are great radios.
I would choose the Omega though.
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Gumball
Junior Member
Username: Gumball
Post Number: 47
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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Just curious, how does the S9 compare to the Omega/Delta? |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 6412
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:56 am: |
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Gumball,
Check out the Links below and you will see the Differences and Features of each radio.
MAGNUM DELTA FORCE
Magnum OmegaForce S45
Magnum S-9
Hope this helps,
Lon
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Jake949
New member
Username: Jake949
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 7:09 pm: |
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hi gumball, just my opinion but i feel the s-9 is a totally different radio when compared to other magnum radios...except for the AMT and echo of course. |
Mikefromms
Advanced Member
Username: Mikefromms
Post Number: 757
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 1:46 pm: |
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Other than the nice round meter on the S-9, the Omega Force S-45 has lots more features and is cheaper. I guess from what I read they talk about the same.
mikefromms |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 1402
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 6:02 pm: |
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for mobile use, mike, i find the S9 easier to operate when moving, then my delta force, which is set up just like the omega. otherwise, for base use, the omega at 60 bucks less may be the more economical choice!
magnummagnummagnummagnummagnummagnum.... |
Timblazer2
New member
Username: Timblazer2
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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I havent adapted yet to remembering freq's for the channels so a s9 would be alot better for me. |
Tech808
Moderator
Username: Tech808
Post Number: 9210
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 1:04 pm: |
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Timblazer2,
If you go with the S-9 after the Frequency Conversion you will have the Channels / Frequency Coverage listed below.
Hope this helps,
Lon
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Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 230
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:15 pm: |
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm..I am now thinking ....S-9..w/freq conv....what ya think ..PAT.......good move ??....Capt Hook |
Patzerozero
Senior Member
Username: Patzerozero
Post Number: 2388
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:47 pm: |
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 ...remember, it has 8 bands, so you get(if copper mods it) bands 'A' thru 'H', though, internal programming will give ANY 8 you choose, in ANY order if you prefer to mix 'em up!!! |
Capt_hook
Intermediate Member
Username: Capt_hook
Post Number: 231
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 5:36 am: |
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OK the chart lon shows is good enough for me .and this can be done at coppers correct ? that would be great .........Capt Hook |
Willeecue
New member
Username: Willeecue
Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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I have a Delta Force that I bought used and I dont know who did the mods.
However I am very happy with quietness and high sensitivity of the reciever.
Most of the time the RF gain cotrol is set at about 60%.
The recieve audio on strong siginals is real smooth sounding at this setting.
Wish the power control was adjusable from 4 watts idle allowing me to add the power as it is needed.
Low seting is about 8 watts idle.
For local chit chat you just dont need more than 4 or 5 watts and a good base antenna.
Why draw unessessary attention to yourself by running high power all the time?
Unless of corse you just gotta stomp on some mud ducks to get the job done <grin>. |
